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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
real number $x$ and $y$ , find the value of $a,b,c,d$
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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
real number $x$ and $y$ , find the value of $a,b,c,d$
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
real number $x$ and $y$ , find the value of $a,b,c,d$
algebra-precalculus polynomials
Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
real number $x$ and $y$ , find the value of $a,b,c,d$
algebra-precalculus polynomials
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.
So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.
$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$
From here you can conclude that,
$a=-7,d=-3$
Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$
That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHILCompare the degreesThose would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHILtherefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
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Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.
Now we have (for all $x,y$):
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$
If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$
a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$
b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$
Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.
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Starting from the equation
beginalign*
x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
endalign*
we could go on as follows.
First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
beginalign*
4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
endalign*
by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.
We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.
The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.
Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
beginalign*
(4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
endalign*
Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.
Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.
We start with the easy one:
beginalign*
ax+7x=0
endalign*
Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.
The other expression is
beginalign*
4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
endalign*
We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
our equation becomes
$$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$
write it as following
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
take common terms
$$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other
$$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
$$a+7=0$$
$$d+3=0$$
we obtain
$$a=-7$$
$$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
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Aug 15 at 12:54
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
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Aug 15 at 12:59
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.
So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.
$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$
From here you can conclude that,
$a=-7,d=-3$
Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$
That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHILCompare the degreesThose would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHILtherefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.
So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.
$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$
From here you can conclude that,
$a=-7,d=-3$
Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$
That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHILCompare the degreesThose would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHILtherefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.
So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.
$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$
From here you can conclude that,
$a=-7,d=-3$
Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$
$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.
So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.
$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$
From here you can conclude that,
$a=-7,d=-3$
Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$
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That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHILCompare the degreesThose would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHILtherefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
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That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHILCompare the degreesThose would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHILtherefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
â greedoid
Aug 15 at 7:29
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:30
@prog_SAHIL
Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@prog_SAHIL
Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:32
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 15 at 7:34
@prog_SAHIL
therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
@prog_SAHIL
therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.â dxiv
Aug 15 at 7:36
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Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.
Now we have (for all $x,y$):
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$
If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$
a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$
b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$
Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.
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Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.
Now we have (for all $x,y$):
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$
If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$
a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$
b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$
Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.
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Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.
Now we have (for all $x,y$):
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$
If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$
a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$
b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$
Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.
Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.
Now we have (for all $x,y$):
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$
If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$
a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$
b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$
Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.
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Starting from the equation
beginalign*
x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
endalign*
we could go on as follows.
First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
beginalign*
4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
endalign*
by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.
We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.
The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.
Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
beginalign*
(4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
endalign*
Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.
Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.
We start with the easy one:
beginalign*
ax+7x=0
endalign*
Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.
The other expression is
beginalign*
4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
endalign*
We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.
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Starting from the equation
beginalign*
x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
endalign*
we could go on as follows.
First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
beginalign*
4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
endalign*
by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.
We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.
The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.
Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
beginalign*
(4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
endalign*
Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.
Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.
We start with the easy one:
beginalign*
ax+7x=0
endalign*
Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.
The other expression is
beginalign*
4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
endalign*
We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.
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Starting from the equation
beginalign*
x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
endalign*
we could go on as follows.
First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
beginalign*
4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
endalign*
by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.
We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.
The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.
Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
beginalign*
(4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
endalign*
Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.
Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.
We start with the easy one:
beginalign*
ax+7x=0
endalign*
Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.
The other expression is
beginalign*
4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
endalign*
We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.
Starting from the equation
beginalign*
x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
endalign*
we could go on as follows.
First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
beginalign*
4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
endalign*
by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.
We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.
The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.
Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
beginalign*
(4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
endalign*
Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.
Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.
We start with the easy one:
beginalign*
ax+7x=0
endalign*
Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.
The other expression is
beginalign*
4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
endalign*
We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.
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answered Aug 15 at 12:44
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
our equation becomes
$$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$
write it as following
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
take common terms
$$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other
$$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
$$a+7=0$$
$$d+3=0$$
we obtain
$$a=-7$$
$$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
our equation becomes
$$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$
write it as following
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
take common terms
$$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other
$$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
$$a+7=0$$
$$d+3=0$$
we obtain
$$a=-7$$
$$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:54
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:59
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
our equation becomes
$$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$
write it as following
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
take common terms
$$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other
$$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
$$a+7=0$$
$$d+3=0$$
we obtain
$$a=-7$$
$$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$
$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$
cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
our equation becomes
$$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$
write it as following
$$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
take common terms
$$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other
$$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
$$a+7=0$$
$$d+3=0$$
we obtain
$$a=-7$$
$$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$
answered Aug 15 at 12:51
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It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:54
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:59
add a comment |Â
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:54
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:59
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:54
It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:54
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
â James
Aug 15 at 12:56
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:59
No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
â Markus Scheuer
Aug 15 at 12:59
add a comment |Â
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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