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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
real number $x$ and $y$ , find the value of $a,b,c,d$








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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
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Given $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$ for any
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    Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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Hint: put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.
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$$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.



So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.



$$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$



From here you can conclude that,



$a=-7,d=-3$



Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$






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  • That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
    – greedoid
    Aug 15 at 7:29










  • @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Aug 15 at 7:30










  • @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
    – dxiv
    Aug 15 at 7:32










  • @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Aug 15 at 7:34










  • @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
    – dxiv
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Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.



Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.



Now we have (for all $x,y$):



$$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$



If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$




a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$



b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$



Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.






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    Starting from the equation
    beginalign*
    x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
    endalign*
    we could go on as follows.




    First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
    beginalign*
    4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
    endalign*
    by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.




    We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.



    The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.




    Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
    beginalign*
    (4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
    endalign*




    Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.




    Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.



    We start with the easy one:
    beginalign*
    ax+7x=0
    endalign*
    Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.



    The other expression is
    beginalign*
    4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
    endalign*
    We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.







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      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



      cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
      our equation becomes
      $$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$



      write it as following
      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
      take common terms
      $$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
      this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
      you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other



      $$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
      $$a+7=0$$
      $$d+3=0$$



      we obtain




      $$a=-7$$
      $$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$







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      • It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
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      • oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
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      • No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
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      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



      R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.



      So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.



      $$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$



      From here you can conclude that,



      $a=-7,d=-3$



      Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$






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      • That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
        – greedoid
        Aug 15 at 7:29










      • @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:30










      • @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:32










      • @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:34










      • @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:36















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      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



      R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.



      So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.



      $$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$



      From here you can conclude that,



      $a=-7,d=-3$



      Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$






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      • That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
        – greedoid
        Aug 15 at 7:29










      • @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:30










      • @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:32










      • @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:34










      • @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:36













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      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



      R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.



      So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.



      $$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$



      From here you can conclude that,



      $a=-7,d=-3$



      Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$






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      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



      R.H.S only has $x^3$ and $y^2$, therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for $x^3$ and $y^2$.



      So let's pair the terms that may cancel out.



      $$x^3+y^2+(axy^2+7xy^2)+(3xy+dxy)+4x^2y-bx^cy$$



      From here you can conclude that,



      $a=-7,d=-3$



      Also for $4x^2y$ to cancel $c=2$ and $b=4.$







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      • That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
        – greedoid
        Aug 15 at 7:29










      • @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:30










      • @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:32










      • @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:34










      • @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:36

















      • That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
        – greedoid
        Aug 15 at 7:29










      • @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:30










      • @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:32










      • @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
        – prog_SAHIL
        Aug 15 at 7:34










      • @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
        – dxiv
        Aug 15 at 7:36
















      That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
      – greedoid
      Aug 15 at 7:29




      That is not a good hint, since you don't know anyithing about $c$.
      – greedoid
      Aug 15 at 7:29












      @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Aug 15 at 7:30




      @greedoid, it's easy enough to see that $4x^2y$ term can only be cancelled out if $c=2$ and $b=4$.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Aug 15 at 7:30












      @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
      – dxiv
      Aug 15 at 7:32




      @prog_SAHIL Compare the degrees Those would be called "coefficients", not "degrees".
      – dxiv
      Aug 15 at 7:32












      @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Aug 15 at 7:34




      @dxiv, added the complete solution for better clarification. I may not have been able to convey what I wanted to say. Sorry.
      – prog_SAHIL
      Aug 15 at 7:34












      @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
      – dxiv
      Aug 15 at 7:36





      @prog_SAHIL therefore all the terms in L.H.S must cancel out except for x^3 and y^2 That is correct, but not necessarily trivial, so it still needs some justification.
      – dxiv
      Aug 15 at 7:36











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      Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.



      Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.



      Now we have (for all $x,y$):



      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$



      If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$




      a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$



      b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$



      Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.






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        Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.



        Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.



        Now we have (for all $x,y$):



        $$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$



        If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$




        a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$



        b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$



        Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.






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          Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.



          Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.



          Now we have (for all $x,y$):



          $$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$



          If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$




          a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$



          b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$



          Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.






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          Put some values of $x$ and $y$ in it.



          Say $x=1$: $$(a+7)y^2+(7-b+d)y =0;;forall y$$ so $a=-7$ and $b-d=7$.



          Now we have (for all $x,y$):



          $$4x^2y-bx^cy+(d+3)xy=0$$



          If $yne 0$ we get $$4x^2-bx^c+(d+3)x=0;;;forall x$$




          a) Put $x= 2$: $$boxed8+b(2-2^c)=0$$



          b) Put $x=4$: $$boxed48+b(4-4^c)=0$$



          Solving this system we get $$-b = 8over 2-2^c = 48over 4-4^cimplies 2+2^c= 6implies c = 2$$ so $b=4$ and $d=-3$.







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              Starting from the equation
              beginalign*
              x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
              endalign*
              we could go on as follows.




              First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
              beginalign*
              4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
              endalign*
              by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.




              We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.



              The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.




              Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
              beginalign*
              (4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
              endalign*




              Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.




              Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.



              We start with the easy one:
              beginalign*
              ax+7x=0
              endalign*
              Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.



              The other expression is
              beginalign*
              4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
              endalign*
              We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.







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                Starting from the equation
                beginalign*
                x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
                endalign*
                we could go on as follows.




                First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
                beginalign*
                4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
                endalign*
                by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.




                We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.



                The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.




                Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
                beginalign*
                (4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
                endalign*




                Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.




                Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.



                We start with the easy one:
                beginalign*
                ax+7x=0
                endalign*
                Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.



                The other expression is
                beginalign*
                4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
                endalign*
                We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.







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                  Starting from the equation
                  beginalign*
                  x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
                  endalign*
                  we could go on as follows.




                  First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
                  beginalign*
                  4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
                  endalign*
                  by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.




                  We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.



                  The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.




                  Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
                  beginalign*
                  (4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
                  endalign*




                  Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.




                  Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.



                  We start with the easy one:
                  beginalign*
                  ax+7x=0
                  endalign*
                  Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.



                  The other expression is
                  beginalign*
                  4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
                  endalign*
                  We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.







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                  Starting from the equation
                  beginalign*
                  x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2
                  endalign*
                  we could go on as follows.




                  First step: Simplify and put each terms to the left-hand side. We obtain
                  beginalign*
                  4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0tag1
                  endalign*
                  by noting that the terms $x^3$ and $y^2$ cancel out.




                  We have in (1) a bivariate polynomial in $x$ and $y$ at the left-hand side and the zero polynomial at the right-hand side. We have equality with the zero-polynomial iff the coefficients of $x^ky^l$ are zero for each $k,l$ at the left-hand side.



                  The next step is to either arrange the left-hand side by increasing powers of $x$ or by increasing powers of $y$. Since there is a somewhat tricky unknown $c$, which is a power of $x$ and which makes arrangement by increasing powers of $x$ cumbersome, we decide to collect according to increasing powers of $y$.




                  Second step: By arranging according to increasing powers of $y$ we obtain
                  beginalign*
                  (4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx)colorbluey+(ax+7x)colorbluey^2=0
                  endalign*




                  Now we are ready to harvest. We can now easily determine the unknowns $a,b,c,d$ by comparing corresponding powers of $x$.




                  Third step: Compare corresponding powers of $x$.



                  We start with the easy one:
                  beginalign*
                  ax+7x=0
                  endalign*
                  Since the coefficient of $x$ has to be zero we see $colorbluea=-7$.



                  The other expression is
                  beginalign*
                  4x^2+3x-bx^c+dx=0
                  endalign*
                  We have a linear term in $x$, namely $3x+dx=0$ and conclude $colorblued=-3$. We see that setting $colorbluec=2$ gives a second quadratic term $4x^2-bx^2=0$ and we finally conclude $colorblueb=4$.








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                      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



                      cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
                      our equation becomes
                      $$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$



                      write it as following
                      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
                      take common terms
                      $$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
                      this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
                      you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other



                      $$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
                      $$a+7=0$$
                      $$d+3=0$$



                      we obtain




                      $$a=-7$$
                      $$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$







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                      • It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:54










                      • oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                        – James
                        Aug 15 at 12:56










                      • No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:59














                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote













                      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



                      cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
                      our equation becomes
                      $$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$



                      write it as following
                      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
                      take common terms
                      $$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
                      this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
                      you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other



                      $$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
                      $$a+7=0$$
                      $$d+3=0$$



                      we obtain




                      $$a=-7$$
                      $$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$







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                      • It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:54










                      • oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                        – James
                        Aug 15 at 12:56










                      • No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:59












                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote









                      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



                      cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
                      our equation becomes
                      $$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$



                      write it as following
                      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
                      take common terms
                      $$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
                      this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
                      you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other



                      $$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
                      $$a+7=0$$
                      $$d+3=0$$



                      we obtain




                      $$a=-7$$
                      $$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$







                      share|cite|improve this answer












                      $$x^3+4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy+y^2=x^3+y^2$$



                      cancel out $x^3$ and $y^2$
                      our equation becomes
                      $$4x^2y+axy^2+3xy-bx^cy+7xy^2+dxy=0$$



                      write it as following
                      $$4x^2y-bx^cy+axy^2+7xy^2+dxy+3xy=0$$
                      take common terms
                      $$y(4x^2-bx^c)+xy^2(a+7)+xy(d+3)=0$$
                      this equation has to be true for any real x and y thus
                      you can clearly see these terms has to cancel out each other



                      $$4x^2-bx^c=0$$
                      $$a+7=0$$
                      $$d+3=0$$



                      we obtain




                      $$a=-7$$
                      $$ b=4$$ $$c=2$$ $$d=-3$$








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                      • It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:54










                      • oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                        – James
                        Aug 15 at 12:56










                      • No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:59
















                      • It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:54










                      • oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                        – James
                        Aug 15 at 12:56










                      • No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
                        – Markus Scheuer
                        Aug 15 at 12:59















                      It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                      – Markus Scheuer
                      Aug 15 at 12:54




                      It seems this is just the approach which I've added a few minutes ago.
                      – Markus Scheuer
                      Aug 15 at 12:54












                      oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                      – James
                      Aug 15 at 12:56




                      oh sorry, I didn't read that you want me to delete my answer?
                      – James
                      Aug 15 at 12:56












                      No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
                      – Markus Scheuer
                      Aug 15 at 12:59




                      No worries. Deciding to delete your answer belongs to you. I'm fine in any case.
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