Differential equation: $dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)$

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The solution of $dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)$ is given by:



a) $(x+2)^4 (1+frac2yx)= ke^frac2yx$



b) $(x+2)^4 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



c) $(x+2)^3 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



d) None of these




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I have expanded and checked but couldn't spot any exact differentials.



Secondly, it's not a homogeneous equation, so couldn't use $y = vx$.



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    The solution of $dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)$ is given by:



    a) $(x+2)^4 (1+frac2yx)= ke^frac2yx$



    b) $(x+2)^4 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



    c) $(x+2)^3 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



    d) None of these




    Attempt:



    I have expanded and checked but couldn't spot any exact differentials.



    Secondly, it's not a homogeneous equation, so couldn't use $y = vx$.



    How do I go about solving this problem?







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      The solution of $dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)$ is given by:



      a) $(x+2)^4 (1+frac2yx)= ke^frac2yx$



      b) $(x+2)^4 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



      c) $(x+2)^3 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



      d) None of these




      Attempt:



      I have expanded and checked but couldn't spot any exact differentials.



      Secondly, it's not a homogeneous equation, so couldn't use $y = vx$.



      How do I go about solving this problem?







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      The solution of $dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)$ is given by:



      a) $(x+2)^4 (1+frac2yx)= ke^frac2yx$



      b) $(x+2)^4 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



      c) $(x+2)^3 (1+ 2frac(y-2)x+2)= ke^frac2(y-2)x+2$



      d) None of these




      Attempt:



      I have expanded and checked but couldn't spot any exact differentials.



      Secondly, it's not a homogeneous equation, so couldn't use $y = vx$.



      How do I go about solving this problem?









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          hint: $x+y = (x+2) + (y-2)$ , and use $(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB +B^2, A = x+2,B = y - 2$ to expand the numerator and simplify






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            If there is no typo in the equation, I do not think that a solution could be obtained.



            The best I was able to do was, working with $x(y)$ instead of $y(x)$
            $$x'=frac(y-2) (x+2)(x+y)^2$$ Making $x=z-2$ gives
            $$z'=frac(y-2) z(z+y-2)^2 $$ which leads to an implicit equation
            $$fracz (3 log (z)+log (z+2 y-4)-1)-2 y+44 z=C$$ which looks impossible to solve.






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            • "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
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            • @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
              – Claude Leibovici
              Aug 15 at 7:16

















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            Let $X=x+2$ and $Y=y-2$, so the given DE is equivalent to
            $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Y$$
            last DE is homogeneous, so can be transformed into a separable DE by making $Y =uX$ as follows
            $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Yqquadiffqquad u+Xfracmathrm d umathrm dX=fracX^2(1+u)^2X^2u$$
            Then we get
            $$Xfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1+2uuquadimpliesquad fracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1X$$
            Integrating both sides respect to $X$ (supposing that $u$ depends on $X$) we get
            beginalign*
            intfracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d Xmathrm d X&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
            intleft(frac12-frac1/22u+1right)mathrm du&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
            frac12u-frac14ln|2u+1|&=ln|X|+c_1
            endalign*
            Last equality is equivalent to
            $$fracy-2x+2-frac12lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|=2ln|x+2|+2c_1$$
            Notice that this solution can be carried to the form b):
            beginalign*
            frac2(y-2)x+2-4c_2&=4ln|x+2|+lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|\[4pt]
            k e^frac2(y-2)x+2&=(x+4)^4left[frac2(y-2)x+2+1right]
            endalign*
            where $k=pm e^-4c_1$






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            $$dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)=left(dfracx+yx+2right)^2dfracx+2y-2$$
            let $w=dfracx+yx+2$ then $y=w(x+2)-x$ and
            $$w'(x+2)+w-1=y'=w^2dfrac1w-1$$
            which is separable
            $$dfracw-12w-1dw=dfracdxx+2$$
            with integration the solution will be obtained.






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              hint: $x+y = (x+2) + (y-2)$ , and use $(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB +B^2, A = x+2,B = y - 2$ to expand the numerator and simplify






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                hint: $x+y = (x+2) + (y-2)$ , and use $(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB +B^2, A = x+2,B = y - 2$ to expand the numerator and simplify






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                  hint: $x+y = (x+2) + (y-2)$ , and use $(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB +B^2, A = x+2,B = y - 2$ to expand the numerator and simplify






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                  hint: $x+y = (x+2) + (y-2)$ , and use $(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB +B^2, A = x+2,B = y - 2$ to expand the numerator and simplify







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                      If there is no typo in the equation, I do not think that a solution could be obtained.



                      The best I was able to do was, working with $x(y)$ instead of $y(x)$
                      $$x'=frac(y-2) (x+2)(x+y)^2$$ Making $x=z-2$ gives
                      $$z'=frac(y-2) z(z+y-2)^2 $$ which leads to an implicit equation
                      $$fracz (3 log (z)+log (z+2 y-4)-1)-2 y+44 z=C$$ which looks impossible to solve.






                      share|cite|improve this answer




















                      • "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                        – user14717
                        Aug 15 at 7:02










                      • @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                        – Claude Leibovici
                        Aug 15 at 7:16














                      up vote
                      2
                      down vote













                      If there is no typo in the equation, I do not think that a solution could be obtained.



                      The best I was able to do was, working with $x(y)$ instead of $y(x)$
                      $$x'=frac(y-2) (x+2)(x+y)^2$$ Making $x=z-2$ gives
                      $$z'=frac(y-2) z(z+y-2)^2 $$ which leads to an implicit equation
                      $$fracz (3 log (z)+log (z+2 y-4)-1)-2 y+44 z=C$$ which looks impossible to solve.






                      share|cite|improve this answer




















                      • "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                        – user14717
                        Aug 15 at 7:02










                      • @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                        – Claude Leibovici
                        Aug 15 at 7:16












                      up vote
                      2
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                      up vote
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                      down vote









                      If there is no typo in the equation, I do not think that a solution could be obtained.



                      The best I was able to do was, working with $x(y)$ instead of $y(x)$
                      $$x'=frac(y-2) (x+2)(x+y)^2$$ Making $x=z-2$ gives
                      $$z'=frac(y-2) z(z+y-2)^2 $$ which leads to an implicit equation
                      $$fracz (3 log (z)+log (z+2 y-4)-1)-2 y+44 z=C$$ which looks impossible to solve.






                      share|cite|improve this answer












                      If there is no typo in the equation, I do not think that a solution could be obtained.



                      The best I was able to do was, working with $x(y)$ instead of $y(x)$
                      $$x'=frac(y-2) (x+2)(x+y)^2$$ Making $x=z-2$ gives
                      $$z'=frac(y-2) z(z+y-2)^2 $$ which leads to an implicit equation
                      $$fracz (3 log (z)+log (z+2 y-4)-1)-2 y+44 z=C$$ which looks impossible to solve.







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                      • "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                        – user14717
                        Aug 15 at 7:02










                      • @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                        – Claude Leibovici
                        Aug 15 at 7:16
















                      • "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                        – user14717
                        Aug 15 at 7:02










                      • @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                        – Claude Leibovici
                        Aug 15 at 7:16















                      "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                      – user14717
                      Aug 15 at 7:02




                      "looks impossible to solve"-you don't consider an implicit equation solved?
                      – user14717
                      Aug 15 at 7:02












                      @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                      – Claude Leibovici
                      Aug 15 at 7:16




                      @user14717. I just wanted to mean that, at least to me, an analytical solution could not be obtain. Give me the value of $C$ and numerical methods will work.
                      – Claude Leibovici
                      Aug 15 at 7:16










                      up vote
                      2
                      down vote













                      Let $X=x+2$ and $Y=y-2$, so the given DE is equivalent to
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Y$$
                      last DE is homogeneous, so can be transformed into a separable DE by making $Y =uX$ as follows
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Yqquadiffqquad u+Xfracmathrm d umathrm dX=fracX^2(1+u)^2X^2u$$
                      Then we get
                      $$Xfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1+2uuquadimpliesquad fracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1X$$
                      Integrating both sides respect to $X$ (supposing that $u$ depends on $X$) we get
                      beginalign*
                      intfracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d Xmathrm d X&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      intleft(frac12-frac1/22u+1right)mathrm du&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      frac12u-frac14ln|2u+1|&=ln|X|+c_1
                      endalign*
                      Last equality is equivalent to
                      $$fracy-2x+2-frac12lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|=2ln|x+2|+2c_1$$
                      Notice that this solution can be carried to the form b):
                      beginalign*
                      frac2(y-2)x+2-4c_2&=4ln|x+2|+lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|\[4pt]
                      k e^frac2(y-2)x+2&=(x+4)^4left[frac2(y-2)x+2+1right]
                      endalign*
                      where $k=pm e^-4c_1$






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                      Let $X=x+2$ and $Y=y-2$, so the given DE is equivalent to
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Y$$
                      last DE is homogeneous, so can be transformed into a separable DE by making $Y =uX$ as follows
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Yqquadiffqquad u+Xfracmathrm d umathrm dX=fracX^2(1+u)^2X^2u$$
                      Then we get
                      $$Xfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1+2uuquadimpliesquad fracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1X$$
                      Integrating both sides respect to $X$ (supposing that $u$ depends on $X$) we get
                      beginalign*
                      intfracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d Xmathrm d X&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      intleft(frac12-frac1/22u+1right)mathrm du&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      frac12u-frac14ln|2u+1|&=ln|X|+c_1
                      endalign*
                      Last equality is equivalent to
                      $$fracy-2x+2-frac12lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|=2ln|x+2|+2c_1$$
                      Notice that this solution can be carried to the form b):
                      beginalign*
                      frac2(y-2)x+2-4c_2&=4ln|x+2|+lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|\[4pt]
                      k e^frac2(y-2)x+2&=(x+4)^4left[frac2(y-2)x+2+1right]
                      endalign*
                      where $k=pm e^-4c_1$






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                      Let $X=x+2$ and $Y=y-2$, so the given DE is equivalent to
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Y$$
                      last DE is homogeneous, so can be transformed into a separable DE by making $Y =uX$ as follows
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Yqquadiffqquad u+Xfracmathrm d umathrm dX=fracX^2(1+u)^2X^2u$$
                      Then we get
                      $$Xfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1+2uuquadimpliesquad fracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1X$$
                      Integrating both sides respect to $X$ (supposing that $u$ depends on $X$) we get
                      beginalign*
                      intfracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d Xmathrm d X&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      intleft(frac12-frac1/22u+1right)mathrm du&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      frac12u-frac14ln|2u+1|&=ln|X|+c_1
                      endalign*
                      Last equality is equivalent to
                      $$fracy-2x+2-frac12lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|=2ln|x+2|+2c_1$$
                      Notice that this solution can be carried to the form b):
                      beginalign*
                      frac2(y-2)x+2-4c_2&=4ln|x+2|+lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|\[4pt]
                      k e^frac2(y-2)x+2&=(x+4)^4left[frac2(y-2)x+2+1right]
                      endalign*
                      where $k=pm e^-4c_1$






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                      Let $X=x+2$ and $Y=y-2$, so the given DE is equivalent to
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Y$$
                      last DE is homogeneous, so can be transformed into a separable DE by making $Y =uX$ as follows
                      $$dfracmathrm d Ymathrm d X=frac(X+Y)^2X Yqquadiffqquad u+Xfracmathrm d umathrm dX=fracX^2(1+u)^2X^2u$$
                      Then we get
                      $$Xfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1+2uuquadimpliesquad fracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d X=frac1X$$
                      Integrating both sides respect to $X$ (supposing that $u$ depends on $X$) we get
                      beginalign*
                      intfracu2u+1dfracmathrm d umathrm d Xmathrm d X&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      intleft(frac12-frac1/22u+1right)mathrm du&=intfrac1Xmathrm dX\[4pt]
                      frac12u-frac14ln|2u+1|&=ln|X|+c_1
                      endalign*
                      Last equality is equivalent to
                      $$fracy-2x+2-frac12lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|=2ln|x+2|+2c_1$$
                      Notice that this solution can be carried to the form b):
                      beginalign*
                      frac2(y-2)x+2-4c_2&=4ln|x+2|+lnleft|frac2(y-2)x+2+1right|\[4pt]
                      k e^frac2(y-2)x+2&=(x+4)^4left[frac2(y-2)x+2+1right]
                      endalign*
                      where $k=pm e^-4c_1$







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                      • Much nicer than mine, for sure and $+1$
                        – Claude Leibovici
                        Aug 15 at 7:17















                      Much nicer than mine, for sure and $+1$
                      – Claude Leibovici
                      Aug 15 at 7:17




                      Much nicer than mine, for sure and $+1$
                      – Claude Leibovici
                      Aug 15 at 7:17










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                      $$dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)=left(dfracx+yx+2right)^2dfracx+2y-2$$
                      let $w=dfracx+yx+2$ then $y=w(x+2)-x$ and
                      $$w'(x+2)+w-1=y'=w^2dfrac1w-1$$
                      which is separable
                      $$dfracw-12w-1dw=dfracdxx+2$$
                      with integration the solution will be obtained.






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                        $$dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)=left(dfracx+yx+2right)^2dfracx+2y-2$$
                        let $w=dfracx+yx+2$ then $y=w(x+2)-x$ and
                        $$w'(x+2)+w-1=y'=w^2dfrac1w-1$$
                        which is separable
                        $$dfracw-12w-1dw=dfracdxx+2$$
                        with integration the solution will be obtained.






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                          $$dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)=left(dfracx+yx+2right)^2dfracx+2y-2$$
                          let $w=dfracx+yx+2$ then $y=w(x+2)-x$ and
                          $$w'(x+2)+w-1=y'=w^2dfrac1w-1$$
                          which is separable
                          $$dfracw-12w-1dw=dfracdxx+2$$
                          with integration the solution will be obtained.






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                          $$dfracdydx= dfrac(x+y)^2(x+2)(y-2)=left(dfracx+yx+2right)^2dfracx+2y-2$$
                          let $w=dfracx+yx+2$ then $y=w(x+2)-x$ and
                          $$w'(x+2)+w-1=y'=w^2dfrac1w-1$$
                          which is separable
                          $$dfracw-12w-1dw=dfracdxx+2$$
                          with integration the solution will be obtained.







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