Taking $4$ shots or $6$?
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Suppose your skill (the ability to make a shot) follows a binomial distribution (with some unknown $p$). You need to make at least half of the shots. Would you rather take $4$ or $6$? More precisely, what should be the $p$ which is the threshold of your decision?
My Try: assuming $0 < p < 1$.
$$6choose3p^3(1-p)^3 =4choose2p^2(1-p)^2 \
implies p(1-p) = 6/20
$$
but apparently the answer is: $3/5$.
What's wrong with my calculation?
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Suppose your skill (the ability to make a shot) follows a binomial distribution (with some unknown $p$). You need to make at least half of the shots. Would you rather take $4$ or $6$? More precisely, what should be the $p$ which is the threshold of your decision?
My Try: assuming $0 < p < 1$.
$$6choose3p^3(1-p)^3 =4choose2p^2(1-p)^2 \
implies p(1-p) = 6/20
$$
but apparently the answer is: $3/5$.
What's wrong with my calculation?
probability
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The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
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Aug 20 at 11:25
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Suppose your skill (the ability to make a shot) follows a binomial distribution (with some unknown $p$). You need to make at least half of the shots. Would you rather take $4$ or $6$? More precisely, what should be the $p$ which is the threshold of your decision?
My Try: assuming $0 < p < 1$.
$$6choose3p^3(1-p)^3 =4choose2p^2(1-p)^2 \
implies p(1-p) = 6/20
$$
but apparently the answer is: $3/5$.
What's wrong with my calculation?
probability
Suppose your skill (the ability to make a shot) follows a binomial distribution (with some unknown $p$). You need to make at least half of the shots. Would you rather take $4$ or $6$? More precisely, what should be the $p$ which is the threshold of your decision?
My Try: assuming $0 < p < 1$.
$$6choose3p^3(1-p)^3 =4choose2p^2(1-p)^2 \
implies p(1-p) = 6/20
$$
but apparently the answer is: $3/5$.
What's wrong with my calculation?
probability
edited Aug 20 at 11:13
N. F. Taussig
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asked Aug 20 at 10:54
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The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:25
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The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:25
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The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:25
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:25
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In the case of $B(6,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1,2$ shots)
$$(1-p)^6+6p(1-p)^5+15p^2(1-p)^4.$$
In the case of $B(4,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1$ shots)
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3.$$
Now, we have
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3-(1-p)^6-6p(1-p)^5-15p^2(1-p)^4=2p^2(1-p)^3(5p-3). $$ And thus we get $p=dfrac35.$
We can conclude that if $p<dfrac35$ it is better to choose $6$ shots and if $p>dfrac35$ $4$ shots.
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
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Aug 20 at 11:27
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Probability of making AT LEAST half shots out of 6 is
$$
binom63p^3(1-p)^3 +binom64p^4(1-p)^2 +binom65p^5(1-p) +binom66p^3
$$
and for making at least 2 out of 4 is
$$
binom42p^2(1-p)^2 +binom43p^3(1-p) +binom44p^4
$$
For threshold $p$, equating both, we get:
$$
10p^4-36p^3+48p^2-28p+6 = 0
$$
which reduces to
$$
2(x-1)^3(5x-3) = 0
$$
which gives $p = frac 35$ since $0 lt p lt 1$.
1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
In the case of $B(6,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1,2$ shots)
$$(1-p)^6+6p(1-p)^5+15p^2(1-p)^4.$$
In the case of $B(4,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1$ shots)
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3.$$
Now, we have
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3-(1-p)^6-6p(1-p)^5-15p^2(1-p)^4=2p^2(1-p)^3(5p-3). $$ And thus we get $p=dfrac35.$
We can conclude that if $p<dfrac35$ it is better to choose $6$ shots and if $p>dfrac35$ $4$ shots.
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
In the case of $B(6,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1,2$ shots)
$$(1-p)^6+6p(1-p)^5+15p^2(1-p)^4.$$
In the case of $B(4,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1$ shots)
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3.$$
Now, we have
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3-(1-p)^6-6p(1-p)^5-15p^2(1-p)^4=2p^2(1-p)^3(5p-3). $$ And thus we get $p=dfrac35.$
We can conclude that if $p<dfrac35$ it is better to choose $6$ shots and if $p>dfrac35$ $4$ shots.
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
In the case of $B(6,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1,2$ shots)
$$(1-p)^6+6p(1-p)^5+15p^2(1-p)^4.$$
In the case of $B(4,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1$ shots)
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3.$$
Now, we have
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3-(1-p)^6-6p(1-p)^5-15p^2(1-p)^4=2p^2(1-p)^3(5p-3). $$ And thus we get $p=dfrac35.$
We can conclude that if $p<dfrac35$ it is better to choose $6$ shots and if $p>dfrac35$ $4$ shots.
In the case of $B(6,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1,2$ shots)
$$(1-p)^6+6p(1-p)^5+15p^2(1-p)^4.$$
In the case of $B(4,p)$ we fail with probability ($0,1$ shots)
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3.$$
Now, we have
$$(1-p)^4+4p(1-p)^3-(1-p)^6-6p(1-p)^5-15p^2(1-p)^4=2p^2(1-p)^3(5p-3). $$ And thus we get $p=dfrac35.$
We can conclude that if $p<dfrac35$ it is better to choose $6$ shots and if $p>dfrac35$ $4$ shots.
answered Aug 20 at 11:21
mfl
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Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
add a comment |Â
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
Thank you mfl!!
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:26
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
You're welcome.
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:27
add a comment |Â
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1
down vote
Probability of making AT LEAST half shots out of 6 is
$$
binom63p^3(1-p)^3 +binom64p^4(1-p)^2 +binom65p^5(1-p) +binom66p^3
$$
and for making at least 2 out of 4 is
$$
binom42p^2(1-p)^2 +binom43p^3(1-p) +binom44p^4
$$
For threshold $p$, equating both, we get:
$$
10p^4-36p^3+48p^2-28p+6 = 0
$$
which reduces to
$$
2(x-1)^3(5x-3) = 0
$$
which gives $p = frac 35$ since $0 lt p lt 1$.
1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
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up vote
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Probability of making AT LEAST half shots out of 6 is
$$
binom63p^3(1-p)^3 +binom64p^4(1-p)^2 +binom65p^5(1-p) +binom66p^3
$$
and for making at least 2 out of 4 is
$$
binom42p^2(1-p)^2 +binom43p^3(1-p) +binom44p^4
$$
For threshold $p$, equating both, we get:
$$
10p^4-36p^3+48p^2-28p+6 = 0
$$
which reduces to
$$
2(x-1)^3(5x-3) = 0
$$
which gives $p = frac 35$ since $0 lt p lt 1$.
1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
add a comment |Â
up vote
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up vote
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Probability of making AT LEAST half shots out of 6 is
$$
binom63p^3(1-p)^3 +binom64p^4(1-p)^2 +binom65p^5(1-p) +binom66p^3
$$
and for making at least 2 out of 4 is
$$
binom42p^2(1-p)^2 +binom43p^3(1-p) +binom44p^4
$$
For threshold $p$, equating both, we get:
$$
10p^4-36p^3+48p^2-28p+6 = 0
$$
which reduces to
$$
2(x-1)^3(5x-3) = 0
$$
which gives $p = frac 35$ since $0 lt p lt 1$.
Probability of making AT LEAST half shots out of 6 is
$$
binom63p^3(1-p)^3 +binom64p^4(1-p)^2 +binom65p^5(1-p) +binom66p^3
$$
and for making at least 2 out of 4 is
$$
binom42p^2(1-p)^2 +binom43p^3(1-p) +binom44p^4
$$
For threshold $p$, equating both, we get:
$$
10p^4-36p^3+48p^2-28p+6 = 0
$$
which reduces to
$$
2(x-1)^3(5x-3) = 0
$$
which gives $p = frac 35$ since $0 lt p lt 1$.
edited Aug 21 at 16:14
answered Aug 20 at 11:31
artha
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1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
add a comment |Â
1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
1
1
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
you have a power of $p$ in your third equation which I am sure is not intentionally ;)
â Jan
Aug 21 at 15:42
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
@Jan fixed. Thanks
â artha
Aug 21 at 16:15
add a comment |Â
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The question says AT LEAST half of the shots. Your probabilities are for EXACTLY $3$ and $2$ shots.
â the man
Aug 20 at 10:57
Oh okay. By the way, how should this result be interpreted (= at least half)? There's no such $p$?
â Elimination
Aug 20 at 11:01
If you make $6$ shots at least half means "$3$ or more". That is, $3,4,5$ or $6.$
â mfl
Aug 20 at 11:25