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Their are 4 pairs of gloves, $8$ gloves in total. $4$ children whose gloves are in the pile randomly select $2$ gloves.



What would the probability be that at least one child selects his pair of gloves?



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  • I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
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Their are 4 pairs of gloves, $8$ gloves in total. $4$ children whose gloves are in the pile randomly select $2$ gloves.



What would the probability be that at least one child selects his pair of gloves?



I'm not sure how to approach this problem.







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  • I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
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Their are 4 pairs of gloves, $8$ gloves in total. $4$ children whose gloves are in the pile randomly select $2$ gloves.



What would the probability be that at least one child selects his pair of gloves?



I'm not sure how to approach this problem.







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Their are 4 pairs of gloves, $8$ gloves in total. $4$ children whose gloves are in the pile randomly select $2$ gloves.



What would the probability be that at least one child selects his pair of gloves?



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  • I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
    – Emily
    Aug 22 at 3:52












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    Welcome to Math.SE. Can you at least share where you are stuck ? Thanks
    – Shailesh
    Aug 22 at 3:47










  • I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
    – Emily
    Aug 22 at 3:52







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Welcome to Math.SE. Can you at least share where you are stuck ? Thanks
– Shailesh
Aug 22 at 3:47




Welcome to Math.SE. Can you at least share where you are stuck ? Thanks
– Shailesh
Aug 22 at 3:47












I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
– Emily
Aug 22 at 3:52




I guess I dont understand the theory behind this. I think the inclusion-exclusion principle is important for this question, Im having a hard time understanding how to apply it especially since it asks for specific "pairs" and not just selecting one item
– Emily
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Welcome Emily. Yes, PIE is the way to go.



Let $A,B,C,D$ be the events that Ada, Ben, Carl, and Danae find their own gloves. These events are, of course, dependent.



Then $defPrmathsf PPr(A),Pr(B),Pr(C),Pr(D)$ are the probabilities that one particular child finds their glove (and they are all equal), $Pr(A,B),Pr(A,C),Pr(A,D),Pr(B,C),Pr(B,D),Pr(C,D)$ the probabities that two particular children do so (and are likewise equal to each other), and so on.



Thus by the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion you seek $$binom 41Pr(A)-binom 42Pr(A,B)+binom 43Pr(A,B,C)-binom 44Pr(A,B,C,D)$$



To do: Evaluate those probabilities.




Okay, one is $mathsf P(A,B)=dfrac1binom 82binom 62$







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    Hint: Look for the case when none of the children find pair calculate the probability and subtract from 1



    Read this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement






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    • I still don't understand how to find this
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    Simple method is to first compute probability that nobody gets the right pair and then substarct it from 1. Before procedding i will assume that gloves are kept in pair. Suppose that threre are four child $A, B, C, D$.
    Then,
    Probability that $A$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac34$
    Probability that $B$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac23$
    Probability that $C$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac12$
    And finally $D$ will left with no choice.



    Now, let $E$ = No child gets right pair of gloves
    then,
    $$P(E) = frac34×frac23×frac12$$
    $$P(E) = frac14$$
    Probability that atleast one child gets right pair of gloves =$ 1 - P(E) = frac34$






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    • I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
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    Welcome Emily. Yes, PIE is the way to go.



    Let $A,B,C,D$ be the events that Ada, Ben, Carl, and Danae find their own gloves. These events are, of course, dependent.



    Then $defPrmathsf PPr(A),Pr(B),Pr(C),Pr(D)$ are the probabilities that one particular child finds their glove (and they are all equal), $Pr(A,B),Pr(A,C),Pr(A,D),Pr(B,C),Pr(B,D),Pr(C,D)$ the probabities that two particular children do so (and are likewise equal to each other), and so on.



    Thus by the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion you seek $$binom 41Pr(A)-binom 42Pr(A,B)+binom 43Pr(A,B,C)-binom 44Pr(A,B,C,D)$$



    To do: Evaluate those probabilities.




    Okay, one is $mathsf P(A,B)=dfrac1binom 82binom 62$







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      Welcome Emily. Yes, PIE is the way to go.



      Let $A,B,C,D$ be the events that Ada, Ben, Carl, and Danae find their own gloves. These events are, of course, dependent.



      Then $defPrmathsf PPr(A),Pr(B),Pr(C),Pr(D)$ are the probabilities that one particular child finds their glove (and they are all equal), $Pr(A,B),Pr(A,C),Pr(A,D),Pr(B,C),Pr(B,D),Pr(C,D)$ the probabities that two particular children do so (and are likewise equal to each other), and so on.



      Thus by the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion you seek $$binom 41Pr(A)-binom 42Pr(A,B)+binom 43Pr(A,B,C)-binom 44Pr(A,B,C,D)$$



      To do: Evaluate those probabilities.




      Okay, one is $mathsf P(A,B)=dfrac1binom 82binom 62$







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        Welcome Emily. Yes, PIE is the way to go.



        Let $A,B,C,D$ be the events that Ada, Ben, Carl, and Danae find their own gloves. These events are, of course, dependent.



        Then $defPrmathsf PPr(A),Pr(B),Pr(C),Pr(D)$ are the probabilities that one particular child finds their glove (and they are all equal), $Pr(A,B),Pr(A,C),Pr(A,D),Pr(B,C),Pr(B,D),Pr(C,D)$ the probabities that two particular children do so (and are likewise equal to each other), and so on.



        Thus by the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion you seek $$binom 41Pr(A)-binom 42Pr(A,B)+binom 43Pr(A,B,C)-binom 44Pr(A,B,C,D)$$



        To do: Evaluate those probabilities.




        Okay, one is $mathsf P(A,B)=dfrac1binom 82binom 62$







        share|cite|improve this answer












        Welcome Emily. Yes, PIE is the way to go.



        Let $A,B,C,D$ be the events that Ada, Ben, Carl, and Danae find their own gloves. These events are, of course, dependent.



        Then $defPrmathsf PPr(A),Pr(B),Pr(C),Pr(D)$ are the probabilities that one particular child finds their glove (and they are all equal), $Pr(A,B),Pr(A,C),Pr(A,D),Pr(B,C),Pr(B,D),Pr(C,D)$ the probabities that two particular children do so (and are likewise equal to each other), and so on.



        Thus by the Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion you seek $$binom 41Pr(A)-binom 42Pr(A,B)+binom 43Pr(A,B,C)-binom 44Pr(A,B,C,D)$$



        To do: Evaluate those probabilities.




        Okay, one is $mathsf P(A,B)=dfrac1binom 82binom 62$








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            Hint: Look for the case when none of the children find pair calculate the probability and subtract from 1



            Read this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement






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            • I still don't understand how to find this
              – Emily
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            • You are looking for dearrangement
              – Deepesh Meena
              Aug 22 at 4:00














            up vote
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            down vote













            Hint: Look for the case when none of the children find pair calculate the probability and subtract from 1



            Read this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement






            share|cite|improve this answer






















            • I still don't understand how to find this
              – Emily
              Aug 22 at 3:56










            • You are looking for dearrangement
              – Deepesh Meena
              Aug 22 at 4:00












            up vote
            0
            down vote










            up vote
            0
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            Hint: Look for the case when none of the children find pair calculate the probability and subtract from 1



            Read this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Hint: Look for the case when none of the children find pair calculate the probability and subtract from 1



            Read this : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derangement







            share|cite|improve this answer














            share|cite|improve this answer



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            • I still don't understand how to find this
              – Emily
              Aug 22 at 3:56










            • You are looking for dearrangement
              – Deepesh Meena
              Aug 22 at 4:00
















            • I still don't understand how to find this
              – Emily
              Aug 22 at 3:56










            • You are looking for dearrangement
              – Deepesh Meena
              Aug 22 at 4:00















            I still don't understand how to find this
            – Emily
            Aug 22 at 3:56




            I still don't understand how to find this
            – Emily
            Aug 22 at 3:56












            You are looking for dearrangement
            – Deepesh Meena
            Aug 22 at 4:00




            You are looking for dearrangement
            – Deepesh Meena
            Aug 22 at 4:00










            up vote
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            Simple method is to first compute probability that nobody gets the right pair and then substarct it from 1. Before procedding i will assume that gloves are kept in pair. Suppose that threre are four child $A, B, C, D$.
            Then,
            Probability that $A$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac34$
            Probability that $B$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac23$
            Probability that $C$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac12$
            And finally $D$ will left with no choice.



            Now, let $E$ = No child gets right pair of gloves
            then,
            $$P(E) = frac34×frac23×frac12$$
            $$P(E) = frac14$$
            Probability that atleast one child gets right pair of gloves =$ 1 - P(E) = frac34$






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            • I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
              – littleO
              Aug 22 at 4:46














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            Simple method is to first compute probability that nobody gets the right pair and then substarct it from 1. Before procedding i will assume that gloves are kept in pair. Suppose that threre are four child $A, B, C, D$.
            Then,
            Probability that $A$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac34$
            Probability that $B$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac23$
            Probability that $C$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac12$
            And finally $D$ will left with no choice.



            Now, let $E$ = No child gets right pair of gloves
            then,
            $$P(E) = frac34×frac23×frac12$$
            $$P(E) = frac14$$
            Probability that atleast one child gets right pair of gloves =$ 1 - P(E) = frac34$






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            • I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
              – littleO
              Aug 22 at 4:46












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            Simple method is to first compute probability that nobody gets the right pair and then substarct it from 1. Before procedding i will assume that gloves are kept in pair. Suppose that threre are four child $A, B, C, D$.
            Then,
            Probability that $A$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac34$
            Probability that $B$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac23$
            Probability that $C$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac12$
            And finally $D$ will left with no choice.



            Now, let $E$ = No child gets right pair of gloves
            then,
            $$P(E) = frac34×frac23×frac12$$
            $$P(E) = frac14$$
            Probability that atleast one child gets right pair of gloves =$ 1 - P(E) = frac34$






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Simple method is to first compute probability that nobody gets the right pair and then substarct it from 1. Before procedding i will assume that gloves are kept in pair. Suppose that threre are four child $A, B, C, D$.
            Then,
            Probability that $A$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac34$
            Probability that $B$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac23$
            Probability that $C$ gets wrong pair of gloves = $frac12$
            And finally $D$ will left with no choice.



            Now, let $E$ = No child gets right pair of gloves
            then,
            $$P(E) = frac34×frac23×frac12$$
            $$P(E) = frac14$$
            Probability that atleast one child gets right pair of gloves =$ 1 - P(E) = frac34$







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            • I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
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            • I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
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            I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
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            I don't think this question assumes that the gloves are kept in pairs, though.
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