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Let $L$ be a Lie algebra and let $B$ be a Borel subalgebra (a maximal solvable subalgebra) of $L$. I want to understand why $operatornameRad L subseteq B$.
In his proof, Humphreys (Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory - pag 83) says that, since $B$ is a solvable subalgebra and $operatornameRadL$ is a solvable ideal of $L$, then $B+operatornameRadL$ is a solvable subalgebra.
Why should it be true? I know in general that the sum of two solvable ideal is a solvable ideal, but I don't know how to apply this in my situation. Thanks.
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Let $L$ be a Lie algebra and let $B$ be a Borel subalgebra (a maximal solvable subalgebra) of $L$. I want to understand why $operatornameRad L subseteq B$.
In his proof, Humphreys (Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory - pag 83) says that, since $B$ is a solvable subalgebra and $operatornameRadL$ is a solvable ideal of $L$, then $B+operatornameRadL$ is a solvable subalgebra.
Why should it be true? I know in general that the sum of two solvable ideal is a solvable ideal, but I don't know how to apply this in my situation. Thanks.
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Let $L$ be a Lie algebra and let $B$ be a Borel subalgebra (a maximal solvable subalgebra) of $L$. I want to understand why $operatornameRad L subseteq B$.
In his proof, Humphreys (Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory - pag 83) says that, since $B$ is a solvable subalgebra and $operatornameRadL$ is a solvable ideal of $L$, then $B+operatornameRadL$ is a solvable subalgebra.
Why should it be true? I know in general that the sum of two solvable ideal is a solvable ideal, but I don't know how to apply this in my situation. Thanks.
abstract-algebra lie-algebras
Let $L$ be a Lie algebra and let $B$ be a Borel subalgebra (a maximal solvable subalgebra) of $L$. I want to understand why $operatornameRad L subseteq B$.
In his proof, Humphreys (Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory - pag 83) says that, since $B$ is a solvable subalgebra and $operatornameRadL$ is a solvable ideal of $L$, then $B+operatornameRadL$ is a solvable subalgebra.
Why should it be true? I know in general that the sum of two solvable ideal is a solvable ideal, but I don't know how to apply this in my situation. Thanks.
abstract-algebra lie-algebras
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We have $$[B+text Rad L, B+text Rad L] = [B,B]+[B,textRad L]+[textRad L,B]+[textRad L,textRadL].$$
The first term in in the commutator of B, the second two terms are in Rad L and the last one is in the commutator of Rad $L$. Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
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Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
I just want to make this step in Ravi's answer clearer, since I don't think it is obvious (well, at least to me...).
Using the fact that $textRad L$ is an ideal, we have $$[B+textRad L,B+textRad L]subset [B,B]+textRad L.hspace1cm(*)$$ If we use the notation $L^(0)=L$, $L^(n)=[L^(n-1),L^(n-1)]$, then $(*)$ implies that for each $n$, $$[B^(n-1)+textRad L,B^(n-1)+textRad L]subset B^(n)+textRad L.$$ So we can prove by induction that $$beginaligned(B+textRad L)^(n)&subset B^(n)+textRad L.endaligned$$ Now, since $B$ is solvable, $B^(n)=0$ for some $n$, so $(B+textRad L)^(n)subset textRad L$. Since $textRad L$ is solvable, we conclude that $(B+textRad L)^(n)$ is solvable. Thus $B+textRad L$ is solvable.
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We have $$[B+text Rad L, B+text Rad L] = [B,B]+[B,textRad L]+[textRad L,B]+[textRad L,textRadL].$$
The first term in in the commutator of B, the second two terms are in Rad L and the last one is in the commutator of Rad $L$. Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
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We have $$[B+text Rad L, B+text Rad L] = [B,B]+[B,textRad L]+[textRad L,B]+[textRad L,textRadL].$$
The first term in in the commutator of B, the second two terms are in Rad L and the last one is in the commutator of Rad $L$. Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
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We have $$[B+text Rad L, B+text Rad L] = [B,B]+[B,textRad L]+[textRad L,B]+[textRad L,textRadL].$$
The first term in in the commutator of B, the second two terms are in Rad L and the last one is in the commutator of Rad $L$. Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
We have $$[B+text Rad L, B+text Rad L] = [B,B]+[B,textRad L]+[textRad L,B]+[textRad L,textRadL].$$
The first term in in the commutator of B, the second two terms are in Rad L and the last one is in the commutator of Rad $L$. Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
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Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
I just want to make this step in Ravi's answer clearer, since I don't think it is obvious (well, at least to me...).
Using the fact that $textRad L$ is an ideal, we have $$[B+textRad L,B+textRad L]subset [B,B]+textRad L.hspace1cm(*)$$ If we use the notation $L^(0)=L$, $L^(n)=[L^(n-1),L^(n-1)]$, then $(*)$ implies that for each $n$, $$[B^(n-1)+textRad L,B^(n-1)+textRad L]subset B^(n)+textRad L.$$ So we can prove by induction that $$beginaligned(B+textRad L)^(n)&subset B^(n)+textRad L.endaligned$$ Now, since $B$ is solvable, $B^(n)=0$ for some $n$, so $(B+textRad L)^(n)subset textRad L$. Since $textRad L$ is solvable, we conclude that $(B+textRad L)^(n)$ is solvable. Thus $B+textRad L$ is solvable.
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Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
I just want to make this step in Ravi's answer clearer, since I don't think it is obvious (well, at least to me...).
Using the fact that $textRad L$ is an ideal, we have $$[B+textRad L,B+textRad L]subset [B,B]+textRad L.hspace1cm(*)$$ If we use the notation $L^(0)=L$, $L^(n)=[L^(n-1),L^(n-1)]$, then $(*)$ implies that for each $n$, $$[B^(n-1)+textRad L,B^(n-1)+textRad L]subset B^(n)+textRad L.$$ So we can prove by induction that $$beginaligned(B+textRad L)^(n)&subset B^(n)+textRad L.endaligned$$ Now, since $B$ is solvable, $B^(n)=0$ for some $n$, so $(B+textRad L)^(n)subset textRad L$. Since $textRad L$ is solvable, we conclude that $(B+textRad L)^(n)$ is solvable. Thus $B+textRad L$ is solvable.
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Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
I just want to make this step in Ravi's answer clearer, since I don't think it is obvious (well, at least to me...).
Using the fact that $textRad L$ is an ideal, we have $$[B+textRad L,B+textRad L]subset [B,B]+textRad L.hspace1cm(*)$$ If we use the notation $L^(0)=L$, $L^(n)=[L^(n-1),L^(n-1)]$, then $(*)$ implies that for each $n$, $$[B^(n-1)+textRad L,B^(n-1)+textRad L]subset B^(n)+textRad L.$$ So we can prove by induction that $$beginaligned(B+textRad L)^(n)&subset B^(n)+textRad L.endaligned$$ Now, since $B$ is solvable, $B^(n)=0$ for some $n$, so $(B+textRad L)^(n)subset textRad L$. Since $textRad L$ is solvable, we conclude that $(B+textRad L)^(n)$ is solvable. Thus $B+textRad L$ is solvable.
Take the commutator of this stuff with itself again and its an induction argument on the length of the derived series (the longer one of the two).
I just want to make this step in Ravi's answer clearer, since I don't think it is obvious (well, at least to me...).
Using the fact that $textRad L$ is an ideal, we have $$[B+textRad L,B+textRad L]subset [B,B]+textRad L.hspace1cm(*)$$ If we use the notation $L^(0)=L$, $L^(n)=[L^(n-1),L^(n-1)]$, then $(*)$ implies that for each $n$, $$[B^(n-1)+textRad L,B^(n-1)+textRad L]subset B^(n)+textRad L.$$ So we can prove by induction that $$beginaligned(B+textRad L)^(n)&subset B^(n)+textRad L.endaligned$$ Now, since $B$ is solvable, $B^(n)=0$ for some $n$, so $(B+textRad L)^(n)subset textRad L$. Since $textRad L$ is solvable, we conclude that $(B+textRad L)^(n)$ is solvable. Thus $B+textRad L$ is solvable.
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