Norm for adjoint action and relation to norm of matrix?

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Consider an operator or matrix $O$ the adjoint action then is $ad_O M=[O,M]$, where $M$ is an arbitrary test matrix.



My question as follows:
Is there a norm that has been defined for $ad_O$ and if so how does it relate to the operator norm of $O$? Take the Frobenius norm specificially $norm(O)=sqrtOO^dagger$. What norm for $ad_O$ is there that relates the easiest to this norm if any?



Pleas note that specificically I am looking for a relation of the form
$$leftlVert ad_OrightrVert_1=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$$,
where $f$ is a function and $g_n$ with $nin N$ are also functions.



Also I would like to reiterate that $ad$ is the adjoint action in this case and not the adjoint representation







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  • Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Aug 22 at 9:33











  • Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
    – Michael
    Aug 23 at 4:54















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Consider an operator or matrix $O$ the adjoint action then is $ad_O M=[O,M]$, where $M$ is an arbitrary test matrix.



My question as follows:
Is there a norm that has been defined for $ad_O$ and if so how does it relate to the operator norm of $O$? Take the Frobenius norm specificially $norm(O)=sqrtOO^dagger$. What norm for $ad_O$ is there that relates the easiest to this norm if any?



Pleas note that specificically I am looking for a relation of the form
$$leftlVert ad_OrightrVert_1=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$$,
where $f$ is a function and $g_n$ with $nin N$ are also functions.



Also I would like to reiterate that $ad$ is the adjoint action in this case and not the adjoint representation







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  • Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Aug 22 at 9:33











  • Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
    – Michael
    Aug 23 at 4:54













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Consider an operator or matrix $O$ the adjoint action then is $ad_O M=[O,M]$, where $M$ is an arbitrary test matrix.



My question as follows:
Is there a norm that has been defined for $ad_O$ and if so how does it relate to the operator norm of $O$? Take the Frobenius norm specificially $norm(O)=sqrtOO^dagger$. What norm for $ad_O$ is there that relates the easiest to this norm if any?



Pleas note that specificically I am looking for a relation of the form
$$leftlVert ad_OrightrVert_1=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$$,
where $f$ is a function and $g_n$ with $nin N$ are also functions.



Also I would like to reiterate that $ad$ is the adjoint action in this case and not the adjoint representation







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Consider an operator or matrix $O$ the adjoint action then is $ad_O M=[O,M]$, where $M$ is an arbitrary test matrix.



My question as follows:
Is there a norm that has been defined for $ad_O$ and if so how does it relate to the operator norm of $O$? Take the Frobenius norm specificially $norm(O)=sqrtOO^dagger$. What norm for $ad_O$ is there that relates the easiest to this norm if any?



Pleas note that specificically I am looking for a relation of the form
$$leftlVert ad_OrightrVert_1=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$$,
where $f$ is a function and $g_n$ with $nin N$ are also functions.



Also I would like to reiterate that $ad$ is the adjoint action in this case and not the adjoint representation









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  • Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Aug 22 at 9:33











  • Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
    – Michael
    Aug 23 at 4:54

















  • Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
    – Adrián González-Pérez
    Aug 22 at 9:33











  • Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
    – Michael
    Aug 23 at 4:54
















Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
– Adrián González-Pérez
Aug 22 at 9:33





Just a quick remark: The operator $O mapsto Ad_O$ that you mention has a kernel given by scalar diagonal matrices. You shall not expect an equality $| Ad_O |_1= | O |_2$, for two given norms, since the left hand side will be zero for those matrices and the right hand side not.
– Adrián González-Pérez
Aug 22 at 9:33













Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
– Michael
Aug 23 at 4:54





Oh that is not what I was asking. I was more interested in something of the form: $leftlVert ad_OrightrVert=f(leftlVert g_1(O)rightrVert,...,leftlVert g_n(O)rightrVert)$. Also note that I was asking for $ad$ and not $Ad$
– Michael
Aug 23 at 4:54
















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