What is wrong in the congruence of the triangles?
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I have an isosceles trapezoid $ABCD$.
In my development, I have obtained that the parallel sides are equal. But that is impossible, because if that happened, it would be a parallelogram.
So, what is the error in my development? Thanks in advance.
Basically, $DC$ can't be equal to $AB$, so what is my mistake?
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I have an isosceles trapezoid $ABCD$.
In my development, I have obtained that the parallel sides are equal. But that is impossible, because if that happened, it would be a parallelogram.
So, what is the error in my development? Thanks in advance.
Basically, $DC$ can't be equal to $AB$, so what is my mistake?
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What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
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@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
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AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49
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I have an isosceles trapezoid $ABCD$.
In my development, I have obtained that the parallel sides are equal. But that is impossible, because if that happened, it would be a parallelogram.
So, what is the error in my development? Thanks in advance.
Basically, $DC$ can't be equal to $AB$, so what is my mistake?
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I have an isosceles trapezoid $ABCD$.
In my development, I have obtained that the parallel sides are equal. But that is impossible, because if that happened, it would be a parallelogram.
So, what is the error in my development? Thanks in advance.
Basically, $DC$ can't be equal to $AB$, so what is my mistake?
geometry
edited Aug 7 at 19:30
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What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
3
@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
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AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49
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What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
3
@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
3
AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49
What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
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@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
3
3
AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49
AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49
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Are you given those angles are equal?
If so then the trapezoid IS a parallelogram that is not drawn to scale. (Who told you that the trapezoid wasn't a parallelogram?)
The angles marked $beta$ must be equal because $overlineDC$ is parallel to $overlineAB$. But the angles marked $alpha$ are equal if and only if $overlineAD$ is parallel to $overlineBC$.
Which if this is drawn to scale they are not; but which otherwise you have no reason to rule out.
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Ah. I see. $angle DCA = beta$ but $angle ACB ne alpha$.
Because it is a isoceles trapezoid the base angles are congruent. Then base angles are $angle ABC$ and $angle DAB$ so $angle ABC = angle DAB =alpha + beta$.
$angle DBC$ is NOT a base angle. And $angle DBC ne angle DAB$ (even though $angle DCA = beta$.)
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Peter's right that you don't have similar triangles, but here's another way to check. A sanity check, if you will.
A defining characteristic of similar triangles is that their angles have the same measures. It's easy to see that $triangle ACD$ has an obtuse angle, while $triangle CAB$ does not. Therefore, there's no way the two can be similar.
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Aug 7 at 19:51
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The angle $alpha$ does not occur twice because $AD$ and $BC$ are not parallel.
Hence you do not have similar triangles.
why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
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Are you given those angles are equal?
If so then the trapezoid IS a parallelogram that is not drawn to scale. (Who told you that the trapezoid wasn't a parallelogram?)
The angles marked $beta$ must be equal because $overlineDC$ is parallel to $overlineAB$. But the angles marked $alpha$ are equal if and only if $overlineAD$ is parallel to $overlineBC$.
Which if this is drawn to scale they are not; but which otherwise you have no reason to rule out.
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Ah. I see. $angle DCA = beta$ but $angle ACB ne alpha$.
Because it is a isoceles trapezoid the base angles are congruent. Then base angles are $angle ABC$ and $angle DAB$ so $angle ABC = angle DAB =alpha + beta$.
$angle DBC$ is NOT a base angle. And $angle DBC ne angle DAB$ (even though $angle DCA = beta$.)
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Are you given those angles are equal?
If so then the trapezoid IS a parallelogram that is not drawn to scale. (Who told you that the trapezoid wasn't a parallelogram?)
The angles marked $beta$ must be equal because $overlineDC$ is parallel to $overlineAB$. But the angles marked $alpha$ are equal if and only if $overlineAD$ is parallel to $overlineBC$.
Which if this is drawn to scale they are not; but which otherwise you have no reason to rule out.
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Ah. I see. $angle DCA = beta$ but $angle ACB ne alpha$.
Because it is a isoceles trapezoid the base angles are congruent. Then base angles are $angle ABC$ and $angle DAB$ so $angle ABC = angle DAB =alpha + beta$.
$angle DBC$ is NOT a base angle. And $angle DBC ne angle DAB$ (even though $angle DCA = beta$.)
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Are you given those angles are equal?
If so then the trapezoid IS a parallelogram that is not drawn to scale. (Who told you that the trapezoid wasn't a parallelogram?)
The angles marked $beta$ must be equal because $overlineDC$ is parallel to $overlineAB$. But the angles marked $alpha$ are equal if and only if $overlineAD$ is parallel to $overlineBC$.
Which if this is drawn to scale they are not; but which otherwise you have no reason to rule out.
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Ah. I see. $angle DCA = beta$ but $angle ACB ne alpha$.
Because it is a isoceles trapezoid the base angles are congruent. Then base angles are $angle ABC$ and $angle DAB$ so $angle ABC = angle DAB =alpha + beta$.
$angle DBC$ is NOT a base angle. And $angle DBC ne angle DAB$ (even though $angle DCA = beta$.)
Are you given those angles are equal?
If so then the trapezoid IS a parallelogram that is not drawn to scale. (Who told you that the trapezoid wasn't a parallelogram?)
The angles marked $beta$ must be equal because $overlineDC$ is parallel to $overlineAB$. But the angles marked $alpha$ are equal if and only if $overlineAD$ is parallel to $overlineBC$.
Which if this is drawn to scale they are not; but which otherwise you have no reason to rule out.
=====
Ah. I see. $angle DCA = beta$ but $angle ACB ne alpha$.
Because it is a isoceles trapezoid the base angles are congruent. Then base angles are $angle ABC$ and $angle DAB$ so $angle ABC = angle DAB =alpha + beta$.
$angle DBC$ is NOT a base angle. And $angle DBC ne angle DAB$ (even though $angle DCA = beta$.)
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Peter's right that you don't have similar triangles, but here's another way to check. A sanity check, if you will.
A defining characteristic of similar triangles is that their angles have the same measures. It's easy to see that $triangle ACD$ has an obtuse angle, while $triangle CAB$ does not. Therefore, there's no way the two can be similar.
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A good point! (+1)
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:51
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Peter's right that you don't have similar triangles, but here's another way to check. A sanity check, if you will.
A defining characteristic of similar triangles is that their angles have the same measures. It's easy to see that $triangle ACD$ has an obtuse angle, while $triangle CAB$ does not. Therefore, there's no way the two can be similar.
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A good point! (+1)
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Aug 7 at 19:51
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Peter's right that you don't have similar triangles, but here's another way to check. A sanity check, if you will.
A defining characteristic of similar triangles is that their angles have the same measures. It's easy to see that $triangle ACD$ has an obtuse angle, while $triangle CAB$ does not. Therefore, there's no way the two can be similar.
Peter's right that you don't have similar triangles, but here's another way to check. A sanity check, if you will.
A defining characteristic of similar triangles is that their angles have the same measures. It's easy to see that $triangle ACD$ has an obtuse angle, while $triangle CAB$ does not. Therefore, there's no way the two can be similar.
answered Aug 7 at 19:48
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A good point! (+1)
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A good point! (+1)
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A good point! (+1)
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A good point! (+1)
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The angle $alpha$ does not occur twice because $AD$ and $BC$ are not parallel.
Hence you do not have similar triangles.
why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
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The angle $alpha$ does not occur twice because $AD$ and $BC$ are not parallel.
Hence you do not have similar triangles.
why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
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The angle $alpha$ does not occur twice because $AD$ and $BC$ are not parallel.
Hence you do not have similar triangles.
The angle $alpha$ does not occur twice because $AD$ and $BC$ are not parallel.
Hence you do not have similar triangles.
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answered Aug 7 at 18:43
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why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
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why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
why? in a isosceles trapezoid exist one pair of sides are parallel and the other are congruent
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:28
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
@Mattiu Sorry, I mixed the letters. Fixed
â Peter
Aug 7 at 19:48
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What are you trying to prove about this trapezoid?
â Robert Howard
Aug 7 at 19:04
nothing, but in my development, the paralallel sides are equal, and it is impossible because in that case, it can be a parallelogram
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:30
3
@Mattiu The two angles that you labeled $,alpha,$ are not equal.
â dxiv
Aug 7 at 19:33
why? if is trapezoid ab and cd are parallel
â Mattiu
Aug 7 at 19:43
3
AD and BC are not parallel; in the two alpha angles, AC is a transversal, and if you wanted those marked angles to be equal, you'd want AD and CB to be parallel. But here we have AB and CD are parallel, and nothing about AD and CB.
â Faraz Masroor
Aug 7 at 19:49