Finiteness of improper integral given limit of function
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I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?
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Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?
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EDITED text:
I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?
ORIGINAL text:
Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?
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EDITED text:
I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?
ORIGINAL text:
Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?
real-analysis improper-integrals
EDITED text:
I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?
ORIGINAL text:
Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?
real-analysis improper-integrals
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Try the following function:
If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$
Otherwise
$$f(t) = frac1t$$
Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.
But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.
Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.
Edit
My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.
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It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
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1 Answer
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active
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up vote
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Try the following function:
If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$
Otherwise
$$f(t) = frac1t$$
Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.
But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.
Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.
Edit
My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.
1
It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
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1
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Try the following function:
If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$
Otherwise
$$f(t) = frac1t$$
Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.
But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.
Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.
Edit
My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.
1
It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Try the following function:
If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$
Otherwise
$$f(t) = frac1t$$
Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.
But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.
Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.
Edit
My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.
Try the following function:
If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$
Otherwise
$$f(t) = frac1t$$
Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.
But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.
Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.
Edit
My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.
edited Aug 7 at 21:44
Anant Joshi
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answered Aug 7 at 18:39
Rushabh Mehta
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It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
add a comment |Â
1
It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
1
1
It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 18:42
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
edited the question a bit.
â Anant Joshi
Aug 7 at 18:46
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
@RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
â Rumpelstiltskin
Aug 7 at 18:47
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
â zipirovich
Aug 7 at 19:08
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
â Rushabh Mehta
Aug 7 at 19:10
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