Finiteness of improper integral given limit of function

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I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?



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Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?







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    I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?



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    Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?







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      I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?



      ORIGINAL text:
      Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?







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      I was trying to get an answer to a slightly different problem, but I posted it here in greater generality, and made a slight mistake in it too. The question actually is, given that $f$ is continuously differentiable, and that $lim_tf'(t)exp(-t^2) = 0$ is $int _-infty^+inftyf'(t)exp(-t^2)dt$ finite?



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      Given $lim_tf(t) = 0$ and that $f$ is continuously differentiable can we say $int _-infty^+inftyf(t)dt$ is finite?









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          Try the following function:



          If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$



          Otherwise
          $$f(t) = frac1t$$



          Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.



          But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.



          Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.



          Edit



          My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.






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            It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 18:42










          • edited the question a bit.
            – Anant Joshi
            Aug 7 at 18:46










          • @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
            – Rumpelstiltskin
            Aug 7 at 18:47










          • That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 19:08











          • I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
            – Rushabh Mehta
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          Try the following function:



          If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$



          Otherwise
          $$f(t) = frac1t$$



          Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.



          But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.



          Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.



          Edit



          My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.






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            It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 18:42










          • edited the question a bit.
            – Anant Joshi
            Aug 7 at 18:46










          • @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
            – Rumpelstiltskin
            Aug 7 at 18:47










          • That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 19:08











          • I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 19:10














          up vote
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          Try the following function:



          If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$



          Otherwise
          $$f(t) = frac1t$$



          Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.



          But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.



          Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.



          Edit



          My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.






          share|cite|improve this answer



















          • 1




            It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 18:42










          • edited the question a bit.
            – Anant Joshi
            Aug 7 at 18:46










          • @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
            – Rumpelstiltskin
            Aug 7 at 18:47










          • That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 19:08











          • I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 19:10












          up vote
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          up vote
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          Try the following function:



          If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$



          Otherwise
          $$f(t) = frac1t$$



          Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.



          But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.



          Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.



          Edit



          My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.






          share|cite|improve this answer















          Try the following function:



          If $|t|leqfracpi2$$$f(t) = cos(t) + 2^frac-14 $$



          Otherwise
          $$f(t) = frac1t$$



          Why is this a counter example? Well, its easy to show this function is continuously differentiable at all points besides $t=pmfracpi2$, and at these points, you can show through some algebra that this function is continuous and differentiable.



          But, because of the nature of $frac1t$, this function will have an infinite integral.



          Now your question asks for $f'(t)e^-t^2$. We can set the function I found equal to this expression to find the actual $f$ that violates your condition.



          Edit



          My original example was $f'(t)exp(-t^2) = frac1+1$, which happens to also be sufficient to disprove OP's question.







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          share|cite|improve this answer



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          edited Aug 7 at 21:44









          Anant Joshi

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          answered Aug 7 at 18:39









          Rushabh Mehta

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          • 1




            It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 18:42










          • edited the question a bit.
            – Anant Joshi
            Aug 7 at 18:46










          • @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
            – Rumpelstiltskin
            Aug 7 at 18:47










          • That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 19:08











          • I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 19:10












          • 1




            It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 18:42










          • edited the question a bit.
            – Anant Joshi
            Aug 7 at 18:46










          • @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
            – Rumpelstiltskin
            Aug 7 at 18:47










          • That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
            – zipirovich
            Aug 7 at 19:08











          • I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Aug 7 at 19:10







          1




          1




          It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
          – zipirovich
          Aug 7 at 18:42




          It's almost a perfect example, but this function isn't differentiable at $t=0$. Of course, this is not important for the divergence of the imporper integral at all. But technically speaking, it doesn't satisfy the OP's requirements.
          – zipirovich
          Aug 7 at 18:42












          edited the question a bit.
          – Anant Joshi
          Aug 7 at 18:46




          edited the question a bit.
          – Anant Joshi
          Aug 7 at 18:46












          @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
          – Rumpelstiltskin
          Aug 7 at 18:47




          @RushabhMehta it still doesn't quite work, but the question changed
          – Rumpelstiltskin
          Aug 7 at 18:47












          That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
          – zipirovich
          Aug 7 at 19:08





          That's funny -- now, after the question has been updated, you can go back to your original example! :-) For $f(t)$ to be continuously differentiable, $f'(t)$ and $f'(t)e^-t^2$ only need to be continuous.
          – zipirovich
          Aug 7 at 19:08













          I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
          – Rushabh Mehta
          Aug 7 at 19:10




          I hate life right now loll, I spent like 10 minutes trying to redesign that function to work. Whatever
          – Rushabh Mehta
          Aug 7 at 19:10












           

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