Area of a triangle using vectors

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I have to find the area of a triangle whose vertices have coordinates
O$(0,0,0)$, A$(1,-5,-7)$ and B$(10,10,5)$
I thought that perhaps I should use the dot product to find the angle between the lines $vecOA$ and $vecOB$ and use this angle in the formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
These are my steps for doing this:
$mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix sintheta $
Let $mathbfa = beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix$ and let $mathbfb = beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix$
$therefore beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix cdot beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix = (5sqrt3)(15)sintheta $
$therefore sintheta = -dfrac1sqrt3$
If I substitute these values into the general formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
I get:
area $= frac12(5sqrt3)(15)(-dfrac1sqrt3)$
$therefore$ area $= -dfrac752$
However this isn't right, the area should be $dfrac75sqrt2$
I feel I'm missing something really obvious but I can't spot it, can anyone help?
Thank you.
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I have to find the area of a triangle whose vertices have coordinates
O$(0,0,0)$, A$(1,-5,-7)$ and B$(10,10,5)$
I thought that perhaps I should use the dot product to find the angle between the lines $vecOA$ and $vecOB$ and use this angle in the formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
These are my steps for doing this:
$mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix sintheta $
Let $mathbfa = beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix$ and let $mathbfb = beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix$
$therefore beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix cdot beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix = (5sqrt3)(15)sintheta $
$therefore sintheta = -dfrac1sqrt3$
If I substitute these values into the general formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
I get:
area $= frac12(5sqrt3)(15)(-dfrac1sqrt3)$
$therefore$ area $= -dfrac752$
However this isn't right, the area should be $dfrac75sqrt2$
I feel I'm missing something really obvious but I can't spot it, can anyone help?
Thank you.
trigonometry triangle area
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$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
2
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05
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I have to find the area of a triangle whose vertices have coordinates
O$(0,0,0)$, A$(1,-5,-7)$ and B$(10,10,5)$
I thought that perhaps I should use the dot product to find the angle between the lines $vecOA$ and $vecOB$ and use this angle in the formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
These are my steps for doing this:
$mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix sintheta $
Let $mathbfa = beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix$ and let $mathbfb = beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix$
$therefore beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix cdot beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix = (5sqrt3)(15)sintheta $
$therefore sintheta = -dfrac1sqrt3$
If I substitute these values into the general formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
I get:
area $= frac12(5sqrt3)(15)(-dfrac1sqrt3)$
$therefore$ area $= -dfrac752$
However this isn't right, the area should be $dfrac75sqrt2$
I feel I'm missing something really obvious but I can't spot it, can anyone help?
Thank you.
trigonometry triangle area
I have to find the area of a triangle whose vertices have coordinates
O$(0,0,0)$, A$(1,-5,-7)$ and B$(10,10,5)$
I thought that perhaps I should use the dot product to find the angle between the lines $vecOA$ and $vecOB$ and use this angle in the formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
These are my steps for doing this:
$mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix sintheta $
Let $mathbfa = beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix$ and let $mathbfb = beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix$
$therefore beginpmatrix 1 \ -5 \ -7 endpmatrix cdot beginpmatrix 10 \ 10 \ 5 endpmatrix = (5sqrt3)(15)sintheta $
$therefore sintheta = -dfrac1sqrt3$
If I substitute these values into the general formula:
area $= frac12absinC$
I get:
area $= frac12(5sqrt3)(15)(-dfrac1sqrt3)$
$therefore$ area $= -dfrac752$
However this isn't right, the area should be $dfrac75sqrt2$
I feel I'm missing something really obvious but I can't spot it, can anyone help?
Thank you.
trigonometry triangle area
asked Feb 7 '14 at 16:50
Elise
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$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
2
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05
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1
$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
2
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05
1
1
$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
2
2
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05
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The correct formula is $mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix costheta $
So what you really have is $costheta = cfrac-1sqrt3$
Therefore $$sintheta = sqrt1 - cos^2theta = sqrt1 - frac13 = sqrtfrac23 = fracsqrt2sqrt3$$
Finally, the area of the triangle is:
$$
Area = frac12 (5 sqrt3) (15) fracsqrt2sqrt3 = frac75 sqrt22
$$
We can just multiply $fracsqrt2sqrt2$ to the area, and then we get the answer you posted:
$$
Area = frac75 sqrt22 left(fracsqrt2sqrt2right) = frac75sqrt2
$$
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Since your vectors are in $mathbbR^3$, you can find the area of the parallelogram generated by the vectors by computing the magnitude of the cross product. The area of the triangle is half that value:
$Area=(1/2) | a times b |$.
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The correct formula is $mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix costheta $
So what you really have is $costheta = cfrac-1sqrt3$
Therefore $$sintheta = sqrt1 - cos^2theta = sqrt1 - frac13 = sqrtfrac23 = fracsqrt2sqrt3$$
Finally, the area of the triangle is:
$$
Area = frac12 (5 sqrt3) (15) fracsqrt2sqrt3 = frac75 sqrt22
$$
We can just multiply $fracsqrt2sqrt2$ to the area, and then we get the answer you posted:
$$
Area = frac75 sqrt22 left(fracsqrt2sqrt2right) = frac75sqrt2
$$
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The correct formula is $mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix costheta $
So what you really have is $costheta = cfrac-1sqrt3$
Therefore $$sintheta = sqrt1 - cos^2theta = sqrt1 - frac13 = sqrtfrac23 = fracsqrt2sqrt3$$
Finally, the area of the triangle is:
$$
Area = frac12 (5 sqrt3) (15) fracsqrt2sqrt3 = frac75 sqrt22
$$
We can just multiply $fracsqrt2sqrt2$ to the area, and then we get the answer you posted:
$$
Area = frac75 sqrt22 left(fracsqrt2sqrt2right) = frac75sqrt2
$$
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The correct formula is $mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix costheta $
So what you really have is $costheta = cfrac-1sqrt3$
Therefore $$sintheta = sqrt1 - cos^2theta = sqrt1 - frac13 = sqrtfrac23 = fracsqrt2sqrt3$$
Finally, the area of the triangle is:
$$
Area = frac12 (5 sqrt3) (15) fracsqrt2sqrt3 = frac75 sqrt22
$$
We can just multiply $fracsqrt2sqrt2$ to the area, and then we get the answer you posted:
$$
Area = frac75 sqrt22 left(fracsqrt2sqrt2right) = frac75sqrt2
$$
The correct formula is $mathbfa cdot mathbfb = beginvmatrix mathbfa endvmatrixbeginvmatrix mathbfb endvmatrix costheta $
So what you really have is $costheta = cfrac-1sqrt3$
Therefore $$sintheta = sqrt1 - cos^2theta = sqrt1 - frac13 = sqrtfrac23 = fracsqrt2sqrt3$$
Finally, the area of the triangle is:
$$
Area = frac12 (5 sqrt3) (15) fracsqrt2sqrt3 = frac75 sqrt22
$$
We can just multiply $fracsqrt2sqrt2$ to the area, and then we get the answer you posted:
$$
Area = frac75 sqrt22 left(fracsqrt2sqrt2right) = frac75sqrt2
$$
answered Aug 14 at 3:18
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Since your vectors are in $mathbbR^3$, you can find the area of the parallelogram generated by the vectors by computing the magnitude of the cross product. The area of the triangle is half that value:
$Area=(1/2) | a times b |$.
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Since your vectors are in $mathbbR^3$, you can find the area of the parallelogram generated by the vectors by computing the magnitude of the cross product. The area of the triangle is half that value:
$Area=(1/2) | a times b |$.
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Since your vectors are in $mathbbR^3$, you can find the area of the parallelogram generated by the vectors by computing the magnitude of the cross product. The area of the triangle is half that value:
$Area=(1/2) | a times b |$.
Since your vectors are in $mathbbR^3$, you can find the area of the parallelogram generated by the vectors by computing the magnitude of the cross product. The area of the triangle is half that value:
$Area=(1/2) | a times b |$.
answered Aug 14 at 3:40
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$mathbfacdot mathbfb=|mathbfa||mathbfb| cos theta$.
â Meow
Feb 7 '14 at 16:54
Haha, thank you, can't believe I didn't check that.
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 16:55
2
Use the cross product ...
â Mark Bennet
Feb 7 '14 at 17:31
@MarkBennet that would make it a lot more efficient, thank you :)
â Elise
Feb 7 '14 at 18:05