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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$
Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:
$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$
$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$
find $a$ and $b$
Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.
Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!
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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$
Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:
$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$
$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$
find $a$ and $b$
Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.
Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!
algebra-precalculus parametric
"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
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Aug 14 at 8:27
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
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Sorry! Corrected it.
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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$
Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:
$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$
$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$
find $a$ and $b$
Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.
Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!
algebra-precalculus parametric
There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$
Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:
$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$
$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$
find $a$ and $b$
Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.
Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!
algebra-precalculus parametric
edited Aug 14 at 8:34
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"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
â hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28
Sorry! Corrected it.
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30
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"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
â hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28
Sorry! Corrected it.
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30
"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27
"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
â hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
â hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28
Sorry! Corrected it.
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30
Sorry! Corrected it.
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Aug 14 at 8:30
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$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$
$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$
$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$
Reducing we get:
$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$
$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$
$a =frac14$
$b=-frac12$
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$$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
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Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
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My work:
$$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
beginarrayll
&sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
&implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
&implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
&implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
&implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
&implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
endarray
$$textThis gives,$$
$$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
$$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
$$implies ane dfrac14$$
Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$
Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
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$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$
$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$
$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$
Reducing we get:
$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$
$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$
$a =frac14$
$b=-frac12$
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$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$
$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$
$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$
Reducing we get:
$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$
$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$
$a =frac14$
$b=-frac12$
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$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$
$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$
$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$
Reducing we get:
$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$
$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$
$a =frac14$
$b=-frac12$
$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$
$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$
$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$
Reducing we get:
$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$
$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$
$a =frac14$
$b=-frac12$
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$$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
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$$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
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$$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.
$$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.
answered Aug 14 at 8:32
Yves Daoust
112k665205
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I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
add a comment |Â
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
I would really appreciate some textual explanation
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:33
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
@user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:34
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up vote
0
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My work:
$$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
beginarrayll
&sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
&implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
&implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
&implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
&implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
&implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
endarray
$$textThis gives,$$
$$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
$$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
$$implies ane dfrac14$$
Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$
Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
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up vote
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My work:
$$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
beginarrayll
&sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
&implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
&implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
&implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
&implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
&implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
endarray
$$textThis gives,$$
$$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
$$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
$$implies ane dfrac14$$
Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$
Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
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My work:
$$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
beginarrayll
&sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
&implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
&implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
&implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
&implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
&implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
endarray
$$textThis gives,$$
$$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
$$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
$$implies ane dfrac14$$
Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$
Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$
My work:
$$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
beginarrayll
&sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
&implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
&implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
&implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
&implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
&implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
&implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
endarray
$$textThis gives,$$
$$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
$$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
$$implies ane dfrac14$$
Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$
Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$
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Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
add a comment |Â
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
â user549904
Aug 14 at 12:58
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
â Rakibul Islam Prince
Aug 14 at 13:08
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"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27
I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
â hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28
Sorry! Corrected it.
â user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30