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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$




Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:




$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$



$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$



find $a$ and $b$




Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.



Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!







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  • "it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
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  • I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$




Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:




$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$



$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$



find $a$ and $b$




Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.



Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!







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  • "it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 14 at 8:27











  • I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
    – hendreyth
    Aug 14 at 8:28










  • Sorry! Corrected it.
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    Aug 14 at 8:30












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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$




Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:




$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$



$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$



find $a$ and $b$




Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.



Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!







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There are constants $a$ and $b$ so that for all points (x, y) on curve K it holds: $y^2+ax^2+bx=0$




Curve K is presented by the parametric equation:




$x(t)=2sin^2(t)$



$y(t)=sin(t)cos(t)$



find $a$ and $b$




Looking for a way to solve this, I tried substituting $y(t)$ and $x(t)$ into the parabolic equation but nothing makes sense then.



Explanation is really appreciated! Thanks!









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  • "it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 14 at 8:27











  • I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
    – hendreyth
    Aug 14 at 8:28










  • Sorry! Corrected it.
    – user549904
    Aug 14 at 8:30
















  • "it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 14 at 8:27











  • I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
    – hendreyth
    Aug 14 at 8:28










  • Sorry! Corrected it.
    – user549904
    Aug 14 at 8:30















"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
– Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27





"it holds" what ? There is no predicate.
– Yves Daoust
Aug 14 at 8:27













I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
– hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28




I think there's a typo in your parabolic equation, since right now it's not an equation, just a formula. ($y^2+ax^2+bx= ?$)
– hendreyth
Aug 14 at 8:28












Sorry! Corrected it.
– user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30




Sorry! Corrected it.
– user549904
Aug 14 at 8:30










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$cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$



$2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$



$sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$



Reducing we get:



$4y^2+x^2-2x=0$



$y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$



$a =frac14$



$b=-frac12$






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    $$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.






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    My work:
    $$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
    Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
    beginarrayll
    &sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
    &implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
    &implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
    &implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
    &implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
    &implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
    &implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
    &implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
    &implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
    endarray
    $$textThis gives,$$



    $$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
    Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
    $$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
    $$implies ane dfrac14$$
    Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$



    Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$






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    • Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
      – user549904
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    • I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
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      Aug 14 at 13:08










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    $cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$



    $2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$



    $sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$



    Reducing we get:



    $4y^2+x^2-2x=0$



    $y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$



    $a =frac14$



    $b=-frac12$






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      $cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$



      $2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$



      $sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$



      Reducing we get:



      $4y^2+x^2-2x=0$



      $y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$



      $a =frac14$



      $b=-frac12$






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        $cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$



        $2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$



        $sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$



        Reducing we get:



        $4y^2+x^2-2x=0$



        $y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$



        $a =frac14$



        $b=-frac12$






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        $cos 2t=1-2sin^2 t=1-x$



        $2y = 2sin t cos t=sin 2t$



        $sin^2 2t + cos^2 2t =(1-x)^2 +(2y)^2=1$



        Reducing we get:



        $4y^2+x^2-2x=0$



        $y^2 +(1/4)x^2+(-2/4)x=0$



        $a =frac14$



        $b=-frac12$







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            $$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.






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            • I would really appreciate some textual explanation
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            • @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
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            $$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.






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            • I would really appreciate some textual explanation
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            • @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
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            $$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.






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            $$sin^2tcos^2t+4asin^4t+2bsin^2t=u(1-u)+4au^2+2bu=0$$ with $a=frac14,b=-frac12$.







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            answered Aug 14 at 8:32









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            • I would really appreciate some textual explanation
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 8:33










            • @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
              – Yves Daoust
              Aug 14 at 8:34

















            • I would really appreciate some textual explanation
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 8:33










            • @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
              – Yves Daoust
              Aug 14 at 8:34
















            I would really appreciate some textual explanation
            – user549904
            Aug 14 at 8:33




            I would really appreciate some textual explanation
            – user549904
            Aug 14 at 8:33












            @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
            – Yves Daoust
            Aug 14 at 8:34





            @user549904: $u=sin^2t$.
            – Yves Daoust
            Aug 14 at 8:34











            up vote
            0
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            My work:
            $$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
            Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
            beginarrayll
            &sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
            &implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
            &implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
            &implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
            &implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
            &implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
            endarray
            $$textThis gives,$$



            $$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
            Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
            $$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
            $$implies ane dfrac14$$
            Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$



            Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$






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            • Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 12:58











            • I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
              – Rakibul Islam Prince
              Aug 14 at 13:08














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            My work:
            $$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
            Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
            beginarrayll
            &sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
            &implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
            &implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
            &implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
            &implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
            &implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
            endarray
            $$textThis gives,$$



            $$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
            Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
            $$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
            $$implies ane dfrac14$$
            Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$



            Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$






            share|cite|improve this answer






















            • Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 12:58











            • I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
              – Rakibul Islam Prince
              Aug 14 at 13:08












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            My work:
            $$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
            Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
            beginarrayll
            &sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
            &implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
            &implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
            &implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
            &implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
            &implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
            endarray
            $$textThis gives,$$



            $$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
            Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
            $$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
            $$implies ane dfrac14$$
            Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$



            Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$






            share|cite|improve this answer














            My work:
            $$y^2+ax^2+bx=0$$
            Substituting the values of $x$ and $y$ we get,
            beginarrayll
            &sin^2(t).cos^2(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)(1-sin^2(t))+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies sin^2(t)-sin^4(t)+4asin^4(t)+2bsin^2(t)&=0\
            &implies 2bsin^2(t)+sin^2(t)&=sin^4(t)-4asin^4(t)\
            &implies sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=sin^4(t)(1-4a)\
            &implies dfrac12.2sin^2(t)(2b+1)&=dfracbig(2sin^2(t)big)^24(1-4a)\
            &implies dfracx2(2b+1)&=dfracx^24(1-4a)\
            &implies x(4b+2)-x^2(1-4a)&=0\
            &implies x(4b+2-x+4ax)&=0\
            endarray
            $$textThis gives,$$



            $$x=0 or, x= dfrac4b+21-4a$$
            Now, let's think what does this mean.if $x= dfrac4b+21-4a$ then, what are the conditions?
            $$here,(1-4a)ne0$$
            $$implies ane dfrac14$$
            Hence, $b in mathbbR$ and $ain mathbbR - dfrac14$



            Again if we take $x=0$ ,then $a=dfrac14$ and $b=-dfrac12$







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            • Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 12:58











            • I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
              – Rakibul Islam Prince
              Aug 14 at 13:08
















            • Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
              – user549904
              Aug 14 at 12:58











            • I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
              – Rakibul Islam Prince
              Aug 14 at 13:08















            Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
            – user549904
            Aug 14 at 12:58





            Hey thanks for the answer! Can you explain to me how you got 1/2 * sin^2(x) at the 5th step and how you got x/2 on the sixth? Thanks!
            – user549904
            Aug 14 at 12:58













            I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
            – Rakibul Islam Prince
            Aug 14 at 13:08




            I have just multiplied sin^2(t) with 2/2 so that, we can substitute 2sin^2(t)=x and that gives x/2
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            Aug 14 at 13:08












             

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