Solve DE by Laplace transformation: $y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t$?

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The differential equation is as follows



$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$



How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?



In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.







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    Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
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  • I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
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    Aug 28 at 17:10







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The differential equation is as follows



$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$



How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?



In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.







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    Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
    – Matthew Leingang
    Aug 28 at 17:07










  • I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
    – Diwakar Yadav
    Aug 28 at 17:10







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The differential equation is as follows



$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$



How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?



In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.







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The differential equation is as follows



$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$



How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?



In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.









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  • 4




    Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
    – Matthew Leingang
    Aug 28 at 17:07










  • I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
    – Diwakar Yadav
    Aug 28 at 17:10







  • 2




    Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
    – Matthew Leingang
    Aug 28 at 17:20












  • 4




    Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
    – Matthew Leingang
    Aug 28 at 17:07










  • I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
    – Diwakar Yadav
    Aug 28 at 17:10







  • 2




    Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
    – Matthew Leingang
    Aug 28 at 17:20







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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
– Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07




Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
– Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07












I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
– Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10





I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2】[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
– Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10





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There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.



The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$



Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.






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    Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
    Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.




    By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.






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    • that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
      – Diwakar Yadav
      Aug 28 at 17:18










    • Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
      – Davide Morgante
      Aug 28 at 17:20










    • What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
      – Diwakar Yadav
      Aug 28 at 17:28






    • 1




      How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
      – Diwakar Yadav
      Aug 28 at 17:36










    • Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
      – Davide Morgante
      Aug 28 at 17:49










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    There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
    Let the Laplace transform be given by
    $$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
    Since,
    $$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
    then by convolution the solution takes the form:
    beginalign
    y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
    endalign
    This is seen by
    beginalign
    (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
    f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
    &= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
    endalign
    and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.



    The more standard version is:
    beginalign
    (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
    f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
    &= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
    &= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
    endalign
    and leads to
    $$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$



    Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.






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      There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
      Let the Laplace transform be given by
      $$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
      Since,
      $$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
      then by convolution the solution takes the form:
      beginalign
      y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
      endalign
      This is seen by
      beginalign
      (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
      f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
      &= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
      endalign
      and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.



      The more standard version is:
      beginalign
      (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
      f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
      &= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
      &= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
      endalign
      and leads to
      $$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$



      Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.






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        There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
        Let the Laplace transform be given by
        $$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
        Since,
        $$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
        then by convolution the solution takes the form:
        beginalign
        y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
        endalign
        This is seen by
        beginalign
        (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
        f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
        &= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
        endalign
        and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.



        The more standard version is:
        beginalign
        (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
        f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
        &= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
        &= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
        endalign
        and leads to
        $$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$



        Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.






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        There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
        Let the Laplace transform be given by
        $$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
        Since,
        $$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
        then by convolution the solution takes the form:
        beginalign
        y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
        endalign
        This is seen by
        beginalign
        (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
        f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
        &= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
        endalign
        and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.



        The more standard version is:
        beginalign
        (s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
        f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
        &= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
        &= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
        endalign
        and leads to
        $$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$



        Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.







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            Hint




            Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
            Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.




            By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.






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            • that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:18










            • Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:20










            • What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:28






            • 1




              How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:36










            • Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:49














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            Hint




            Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
            Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.




            By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.






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            • that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:18










            • Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:20










            • What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:28






            • 1




              How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:36










            • Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:49












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            Hint




            Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
            Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.




            By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.






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            Hint




            Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
            Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.




            By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.







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            • that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:18










            • Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:20










            • What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:28






            • 1




              How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:36










            • Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:49
















            • that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:18










            • Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:20










            • What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:28






            • 1




              How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
              – Diwakar Yadav
              Aug 28 at 17:36










            • Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
              – Davide Morgante
              Aug 28 at 17:49















            that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:18




            that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:18












            Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
            – Davide Morgante
            Aug 28 at 17:20




            Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
            – Davide Morgante
            Aug 28 at 17:20












            What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:28




            What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:28




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            How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:36




            How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
            – Diwakar Yadav
            Aug 28 at 17:36












            Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
            – Davide Morgante
            Aug 28 at 17:49




            Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
            – Davide Morgante
            Aug 28 at 17:49

















             

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