Solve DE by Laplace transformation: $y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t$?
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The differential equation is as follows
$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$
How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?
In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.
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The differential equation is as follows
$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$
How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?
In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.
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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
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Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
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The differential equation is as follows
$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$
How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?
In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.
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The differential equation is as follows
$$begincases
y'' + y = 8e^-2t sin t \
y(0)=0 \y'(0)=0
endcases$$
How do I solve it by Laplace transformation?
In my solution I've taken the Laplace transform of both sides and got to the solution of the transformed equation $$mathcal Ly = frac8[(s-2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ but I'm stuck, I don't know how to take the inverse Laplace transform to get the solution to the DE.
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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
2
Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:20
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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
2
Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:20
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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
2
2
Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:20
Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
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There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.
The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$
Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.
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Hint
Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.
By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
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How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
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Aug 28 at 17:49
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There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.
The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$
Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.
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There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.
The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$
Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.
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There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.
The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$
Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.
There are two methods that can be used. The first being the convolution and the second being the longer, more standard, version.
Let the Laplace transform be given by
$$mathcalLy(t) = f(s) = int_0^infty e^-s t , y(t) , dt.$$
Since,
$$mathcalL y'' + y = s^2 , f - s y(0) - y'(0) + f = (s^2 + 1) , f,$$
then by convolution the solution takes the form:
beginalign
y(t) = 8 , int_0^t cos(t-u) , e^-2 u , sin(u) , du.
endalign
This is seen by
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
f &= frac1s^2 + 1 , mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) \
&= mathcalLcos(t) cdot mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t)
endalign
and after the inversion, by convolution, the integral form, which can be calculated, is obtained.
The more standard version is:
beginalign
(s^2 + 1) , f &= mathcalL8 , e^-2t , sin(t) = frac8(s+2)^2 + 1 \
f &= frac8(s^2 + 1) , ((s+2)^2 + 1) \
&= frac1-ss^2 + 1 + fracs+3(s+2)^2 + 1 \
&= frac1s^2 + 1 - fracss^2+1 + fracs+2(s+2)^2 + 1 + frac1(s+2)^2 + 1
endalign
and leads to
$$y(t) = sin t - cos t + e^-2 t , (sin t + cos t).$$
Both methods yield the same result after some calculations are applied for the convolution case.
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Hint
Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.
By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
1
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
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Hint
Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.
By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
1
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
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Hint
Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.
By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.
Hint
Apply Laplace transform to both sides of the equation to get $$ s^2 tilde y -s underbracey(0^+) - y'(0^+)_textZero from the\textinitial conditions + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1 \[20 pt] s^2tilde y + tilde y = frac8(s+2)^2+1$$
Where $tilde y = mathcal Ly$. Now you can easily solve for $tilde y$ and do an inverse Laplace transform to find the solution $y$.
By simplifying the solution you'll get $$tilde y = frac8[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ and by doing partial fraction decomposition $$tilde y = fracAs+B(s+2)^2+1+fracCs+Ds^2+1 = frac(As+B)[(s+2)^2+1]+(Cs+D)(s^2+1)[(s+2)^2+1](s^2+1)$$ Now just find the values of $A,B,C,D$ and then take the inverse Laplace of the decomposed function.
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answered Aug 28 at 17:08
Davide Morgante
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that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
1
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
add a comment |Â
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
1
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
that I have done but failed to apply laplace inverse
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:18
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
Try and apply long division $$tilde y = frac32(4-s^2)(1+s^2) = fracA4-s^2+fracB1+s^2$$ Just find the values of $A$ and $B$ and try taking the inverse Laplace on that
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:20
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
What is Laplace of 8 e^-2t sint ? It is simple but I m confused
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:28
1
1
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
How did u got 32/(4-s^2)(1+s^2)(1+s^2) because my answer is different
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:36
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
Ops, i made a mistake, let me correct my answer
â Davide Morgante
Aug 28 at 17:49
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Hello and welcome. This looks like a pretty straightforward problem. How far did you get and and where are you stuck?
â Matthew Leingang
Aug 28 at 17:07
I am here y(s) =8/[(s+2)^2+(1)^2ãÂÂ[s^2+1] and then I will apply laplace inverse to y(s) and I m not able to factorise the denominator and partial fraction so that I can get a,b,c or d value
â Diwakar Yadav
Aug 28 at 17:10
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Good! Please put that into the body of your question. We have a real problem here with students just pasting their homework into the box and expecting full solutions. Showing that you're not one of those students will help you out.
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