Location and nature of all the stationary points of function
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Just wanted to check if this was right before I proceed
f(x,y)=$2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$
which gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$
Then doing the same with y gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$
To find the stationary points, I have to make the derivatives 0 which gives me
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$ = $0$
and $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
rearranging $fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$= $0$ gives me $y^2 = -x^2 + 25$
I proceed to sub this into $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
This gives me $-12x^2 + 60x + 9x^2 - 225 = 0$
and putting it into quadratic eqtn and then factorising, I get $x=5$ and $x=15$
This is where I get confused, do these numbers sound right and if so, do I place the x coordinates into the original eqtn to get y coordinates?
how many stationary points in total?
partial-derivative stationary-point
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Just wanted to check if this was right before I proceed
f(x,y)=$2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$
which gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$
Then doing the same with y gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$
To find the stationary points, I have to make the derivatives 0 which gives me
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$ = $0$
and $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
rearranging $fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$= $0$ gives me $y^2 = -x^2 + 25$
I proceed to sub this into $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
This gives me $-12x^2 + 60x + 9x^2 - 225 = 0$
and putting it into quadratic eqtn and then factorising, I get $x=5$ and $x=15$
This is where I get confused, do these numbers sound right and if so, do I place the x coordinates into the original eqtn to get y coordinates?
how many stationary points in total?
partial-derivative stationary-point
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Just wanted to check if this was right before I proceed
f(x,y)=$2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$
which gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$
Then doing the same with y gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$
To find the stationary points, I have to make the derivatives 0 which gives me
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$ = $0$
and $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
rearranging $fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$= $0$ gives me $y^2 = -x^2 + 25$
I proceed to sub this into $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
This gives me $-12x^2 + 60x + 9x^2 - 225 = 0$
and putting it into quadratic eqtn and then factorising, I get $x=5$ and $x=15$
This is where I get confused, do these numbers sound right and if so, do I place the x coordinates into the original eqtn to get y coordinates?
how many stationary points in total?
partial-derivative stationary-point
Just wanted to check if this was right before I proceed
f(x,y)=$2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$
which gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$
Then doing the same with y gives
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$
To find the stationary points, I have to make the derivatives 0 which gives me
$fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$ = $6x^2 + 6y^2 -150$ = $0$
and $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
rearranging $fracâÂÂfâÂÂx$= $0$ gives me $y^2 = -x^2 + 25$
I proceed to sub this into $fracâÂÂfâÂÂy$ = $12xy -9y^2$ = $0$
This gives me $-12x^2 + 60x + 9x^2 - 225 = 0$
and putting it into quadratic eqtn and then factorising, I get $x=5$ and $x=15$
This is where I get confused, do these numbers sound right and if so, do I place the x coordinates into the original eqtn to get y coordinates?
how many stationary points in total?
partial-derivative stationary-point
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You are substituting incorrectly. Here is the right way for $f(x,y)=2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$:
$$begincasesf_x=6x^2+6y^2-150=0\
f_y=12xy-9y^2=0endcases Rightarrow begincasesx^2+y^2=25\ y(4x-3y)=0endcases Rightarrow \
1) y=0 Rightarrow x^2+0^2=25 Rightarrow x=pm5;\
2) 4x-3y=0 Rightarrow x=frac34y Rightarrow left(frac34yright)^2+y^2=25 Rightarrow y^2=16 Rightarrow y=pm 4 Rightarrow x=pm3.$$
Hence, the stationary points are:
$$(x,y)=(5,0), (-5,0), (3,4), (-3,-4).$$
Note that once you set first order derivatives equal to zero, you must solve the system of equations to find $(x,y)$.
How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
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Your approach for finding the stationary points is right unless you also have to check the hessian matrix in the points obtained. For example let $$g(x,y)=x^2-y^2$$the only candidate for stationary point is when $(x,y)=(0,0)$ but we know that this point is not stationary (it is a saddle point). For the candidate you obtained we have $$H=beginbmatrixdfracpartial^2fpartial x^2&dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y\dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y&dfracpartial^2fpartial y^2endbmatrix_(x,y)=(5,15)=beginbmatrix12x&12y\12y&12x-18yendbmatrix$$if a point is supposed to be stationary we must have the hessian matrix semi positive definite in that point. Surely $x=15$ is invalid since $y^2$ becomes negative therefore we have two candidates$$(5,0),(-5,0)$$and $$H_(5,0)=60I>0\H_(-5,0)=-60I<0$$so $(5,0)$ is the only stationary point.
Here is a depict of the function
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
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You are substituting incorrectly. Here is the right way for $f(x,y)=2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$:
$$begincasesf_x=6x^2+6y^2-150=0\
f_y=12xy-9y^2=0endcases Rightarrow begincasesx^2+y^2=25\ y(4x-3y)=0endcases Rightarrow \
1) y=0 Rightarrow x^2+0^2=25 Rightarrow x=pm5;\
2) 4x-3y=0 Rightarrow x=frac34y Rightarrow left(frac34yright)^2+y^2=25 Rightarrow y^2=16 Rightarrow y=pm 4 Rightarrow x=pm3.$$
Hence, the stationary points are:
$$(x,y)=(5,0), (-5,0), (3,4), (-3,-4).$$
Note that once you set first order derivatives equal to zero, you must solve the system of equations to find $(x,y)$.
How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
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You are substituting incorrectly. Here is the right way for $f(x,y)=2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$:
$$begincasesf_x=6x^2+6y^2-150=0\
f_y=12xy-9y^2=0endcases Rightarrow begincasesx^2+y^2=25\ y(4x-3y)=0endcases Rightarrow \
1) y=0 Rightarrow x^2+0^2=25 Rightarrow x=pm5;\
2) 4x-3y=0 Rightarrow x=frac34y Rightarrow left(frac34yright)^2+y^2=25 Rightarrow y^2=16 Rightarrow y=pm 4 Rightarrow x=pm3.$$
Hence, the stationary points are:
$$(x,y)=(5,0), (-5,0), (3,4), (-3,-4).$$
Note that once you set first order derivatives equal to zero, you must solve the system of equations to find $(x,y)$.
How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
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You are substituting incorrectly. Here is the right way for $f(x,y)=2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$:
$$begincasesf_x=6x^2+6y^2-150=0\
f_y=12xy-9y^2=0endcases Rightarrow begincasesx^2+y^2=25\ y(4x-3y)=0endcases Rightarrow \
1) y=0 Rightarrow x^2+0^2=25 Rightarrow x=pm5;\
2) 4x-3y=0 Rightarrow x=frac34y Rightarrow left(frac34yright)^2+y^2=25 Rightarrow y^2=16 Rightarrow y=pm 4 Rightarrow x=pm3.$$
Hence, the stationary points are:
$$(x,y)=(5,0), (-5,0), (3,4), (-3,-4).$$
Note that once you set first order derivatives equal to zero, you must solve the system of equations to find $(x,y)$.
You are substituting incorrectly. Here is the right way for $f(x,y)=2x^3 + 6xy^2 - 3y^3 - 150x$:
$$begincasesf_x=6x^2+6y^2-150=0\
f_y=12xy-9y^2=0endcases Rightarrow begincasesx^2+y^2=25\ y(4x-3y)=0endcases Rightarrow \
1) y=0 Rightarrow x^2+0^2=25 Rightarrow x=pm5;\
2) 4x-3y=0 Rightarrow x=frac34y Rightarrow left(frac34yright)^2+y^2=25 Rightarrow y^2=16 Rightarrow y=pm 4 Rightarrow x=pm3.$$
Hence, the stationary points are:
$$(x,y)=(5,0), (-5,0), (3,4), (-3,-4).$$
Note that once you set first order derivatives equal to zero, you must solve the system of equations to find $(x,y)$.
answered Aug 28 at 15:08
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How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
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How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
How did you know to use y=0 for the first part 1)?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 16:00
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
the second equation: $y(4x-3y)=0 Rightarrow 1) y=0; 2) 4x-3y=0$.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 16:03
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. I can do this but it then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:18
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
Approximate change: $Delta fapprox f_xDelta x+f_yDelta y$ (plug $(x,y)=(0,1)). $ Exact (true) change: $f(0.005,0.998)-f(0,1)$. You must calculate both and find the difference.
â farruhota
Aug 28 at 19:28
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Your approach for finding the stationary points is right unless you also have to check the hessian matrix in the points obtained. For example let $$g(x,y)=x^2-y^2$$the only candidate for stationary point is when $(x,y)=(0,0)$ but we know that this point is not stationary (it is a saddle point). For the candidate you obtained we have $$H=beginbmatrixdfracpartial^2fpartial x^2&dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y\dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y&dfracpartial^2fpartial y^2endbmatrix_(x,y)=(5,15)=beginbmatrix12x&12y\12y&12x-18yendbmatrix$$if a point is supposed to be stationary we must have the hessian matrix semi positive definite in that point. Surely $x=15$ is invalid since $y^2$ becomes negative therefore we have two candidates$$(5,0),(-5,0)$$and $$H_(5,0)=60I>0\H_(-5,0)=-60I<0$$so $(5,0)$ is the only stationary point.
Here is a depict of the function
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
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Your approach for finding the stationary points is right unless you also have to check the hessian matrix in the points obtained. For example let $$g(x,y)=x^2-y^2$$the only candidate for stationary point is when $(x,y)=(0,0)$ but we know that this point is not stationary (it is a saddle point). For the candidate you obtained we have $$H=beginbmatrixdfracpartial^2fpartial x^2&dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y\dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y&dfracpartial^2fpartial y^2endbmatrix_(x,y)=(5,15)=beginbmatrix12x&12y\12y&12x-18yendbmatrix$$if a point is supposed to be stationary we must have the hessian matrix semi positive definite in that point. Surely $x=15$ is invalid since $y^2$ becomes negative therefore we have two candidates$$(5,0),(-5,0)$$and $$H_(5,0)=60I>0\H_(-5,0)=-60I<0$$so $(5,0)$ is the only stationary point.
Here is a depict of the function
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
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Your approach for finding the stationary points is right unless you also have to check the hessian matrix in the points obtained. For example let $$g(x,y)=x^2-y^2$$the only candidate for stationary point is when $(x,y)=(0,0)$ but we know that this point is not stationary (it is a saddle point). For the candidate you obtained we have $$H=beginbmatrixdfracpartial^2fpartial x^2&dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y\dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y&dfracpartial^2fpartial y^2endbmatrix_(x,y)=(5,15)=beginbmatrix12x&12y\12y&12x-18yendbmatrix$$if a point is supposed to be stationary we must have the hessian matrix semi positive definite in that point. Surely $x=15$ is invalid since $y^2$ becomes negative therefore we have two candidates$$(5,0),(-5,0)$$and $$H_(5,0)=60I>0\H_(-5,0)=-60I<0$$so $(5,0)$ is the only stationary point.
Here is a depict of the function
Your approach for finding the stationary points is right unless you also have to check the hessian matrix in the points obtained. For example let $$g(x,y)=x^2-y^2$$the only candidate for stationary point is when $(x,y)=(0,0)$ but we know that this point is not stationary (it is a saddle point). For the candidate you obtained we have $$H=beginbmatrixdfracpartial^2fpartial x^2&dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y\dfracpartial^2fpartial xpartial y&dfracpartial^2fpartial y^2endbmatrix_(x,y)=(5,15)=beginbmatrix12x&12y\12y&12x-18yendbmatrix$$if a point is supposed to be stationary we must have the hessian matrix semi positive definite in that point. Surely $x=15$ is invalid since $y^2$ becomes negative therefore we have two candidates$$(5,0),(-5,0)$$and $$H_(5,0)=60I>0\H_(-5,0)=-60I<0$$so $(5,0)$ is the only stationary point.
Here is a depict of the function
edited Aug 28 at 15:22
answered Aug 28 at 15:11
Mostafa Ayaz
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Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
 |Â
show 3 more comments
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
Both these posts are giving different answers which is a little confusing, can anyone spot which one is the correct solution?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:21
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
I also added an illustration of the function to prove the theory. Hope it helps...
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:23
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Is this method similar to the Test to Determine the Nature of Stationary Points using fxx * fyy - (fxy)^2 ?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 15:27
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Yes. But in a special case with $n=2$. The method of hessian is the generalized version of it when $n>2$ for example $f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2$ has a stationary point in $(0,0)$ because $nabla f(0,0)=0$ and $H_(0,0)=2I>0$
â Mostafa Ayaz
Aug 28 at 15:29
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
Thank you, the 2nd part of the question also asks me use partial derivatives to estimate the change in f(x,y) at the point (0,1) by changing x by ôx = 0.005 and y by ôy = âÂÂ0.002. Do I do (fx)* ôx + (fy) * ôy It then asks me to compare with true change given here : f(0.005,0.998)âÂÂf(0,1). I just don't know how to convert this into a number?
â John Camary
Aug 28 at 18:41
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