Differentiating a trigonometric function
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Let
$$
f(x) = arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right).
$$
What is the value of $f'(1)$?
The function splits into
$$
f(x) = begincases
2arctan(x), & textif $-1 leq x leq 1$,\
pi - 2arctan(x), & textif $x > 1$.
endcases
$$
I differentiated the function corresponding to $1$ but my answer is coming to be $1$, but the book tells me the answer does not exist. How can we say the derivative doesn't exist?
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Let
$$
f(x) = arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right).
$$
What is the value of $f'(1)$?
The function splits into
$$
f(x) = begincases
2arctan(x), & textif $-1 leq x leq 1$,\
pi - 2arctan(x), & textif $x > 1$.
endcases
$$
I differentiated the function corresponding to $1$ but my answer is coming to be $1$, but the book tells me the answer does not exist. How can we say the derivative doesn't exist?
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Let
$$
f(x) = arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right).
$$
What is the value of $f'(1)$?
The function splits into
$$
f(x) = begincases
2arctan(x), & textif $-1 leq x leq 1$,\
pi - 2arctan(x), & textif $x > 1$.
endcases
$$
I differentiated the function corresponding to $1$ but my answer is coming to be $1$, but the book tells me the answer does not exist. How can we say the derivative doesn't exist?
derivatives
Let
$$
f(x) = arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right).
$$
What is the value of $f'(1)$?
The function splits into
$$
f(x) = begincases
2arctan(x), & textif $-1 leq x leq 1$,\
pi - 2arctan(x), & textif $x > 1$.
endcases
$$
I differentiated the function corresponding to $1$ but my answer is coming to be $1$, but the book tells me the answer does not exist. How can we say the derivative doesn't exist?
derivatives
edited Aug 28 at 14:31
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Note that $arcsin$ is differentiable in $(-1,1)$, but it is not differentiable at $pm1$. Since $frac2times11+1^2=1$, it would be strange indeed if $f(x)=arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right)$ was differentiable at $1$.
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What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
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The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
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Notice that
beginalign*
f'(x) &= frac1sqrt1-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2fracddxleft(frac2x1+x^2right)
\&= frac1sqrtleft(frac1+x^21+x^2right)^2-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2cdotfrac(1+x^2)(2) - (2x)(2x)(1+x^2)^2
\&= sqrtfrac(1+x^2)^2(1-x^2)^2cdot frac2(1-x^2)(1+x^2)^2
endalign*
(Skipping a bit of the algebra here). You would like to cancel the square and square root, and in the case of $(1+x^2)$, you can. But $1-x^2$ could be positive or negative, so $sqrt(1-x^2)^2 = |1-x^2|$, not $1-x^2$. Therefore
$$
f'(x) = frac21+x^2cdot frac1-x^2
$$
As $xto 1$, the first factor tends to $2$, unambiguously. But the second factor is $pm 1$ depending on whether the numerator is positive or negative. That is,
$$
lim_xto 1^- f'(x) = 1qquadtextandqquadlim_xto 1^+ f'(x) = -1
$$
It follows that $f$ cannot be differentiable at $1$.
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Recall that
$$(arcsin u)'=frac1sqrt1-u^2$$
and since the derivative tends to $infty$ as $uto 1^-$ the function is not differentiable at that point.
That case is similar to $f(x)=sqrt x$ which has vertical tangent at $x=0$.
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3 Answers
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Note that $arcsin$ is differentiable in $(-1,1)$, but it is not differentiable at $pm1$. Since $frac2times11+1^2=1$, it would be strange indeed if $f(x)=arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right)$ was differentiable at $1$.
1
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
1
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
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Note that $arcsin$ is differentiable in $(-1,1)$, but it is not differentiable at $pm1$. Since $frac2times11+1^2=1$, it would be strange indeed if $f(x)=arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right)$ was differentiable at $1$.
1
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
1
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
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1
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up vote
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Note that $arcsin$ is differentiable in $(-1,1)$, but it is not differentiable at $pm1$. Since $frac2times11+1^2=1$, it would be strange indeed if $f(x)=arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right)$ was differentiable at $1$.
Note that $arcsin$ is differentiable in $(-1,1)$, but it is not differentiable at $pm1$. Since $frac2times11+1^2=1$, it would be strange indeed if $f(x)=arcsinleft(frac2x1+x^2right)$ was differentiable at $1$.
answered Aug 28 at 14:27
José Carlos Santos
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1
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
1
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
add a comment |Â
1
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
1
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
1
1
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
What makes the function non differentiable at the extreme points.... Is there no neighbourhood to check verify slope of tangent at the extreme points?
â GENESECT
Aug 28 at 14:29
1
1
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
The tangent lines to the graph of $arcsin$ at $pmleft(1,fracpi2right)$ are vertical lines. Therefore, $arcsin$ is not differentiable at $pm1$.
â José Carlos Santos
Aug 28 at 14:31
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Notice that
beginalign*
f'(x) &= frac1sqrt1-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2fracddxleft(frac2x1+x^2right)
\&= frac1sqrtleft(frac1+x^21+x^2right)^2-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2cdotfrac(1+x^2)(2) - (2x)(2x)(1+x^2)^2
\&= sqrtfrac(1+x^2)^2(1-x^2)^2cdot frac2(1-x^2)(1+x^2)^2
endalign*
(Skipping a bit of the algebra here). You would like to cancel the square and square root, and in the case of $(1+x^2)$, you can. But $1-x^2$ could be positive or negative, so $sqrt(1-x^2)^2 = |1-x^2|$, not $1-x^2$. Therefore
$$
f'(x) = frac21+x^2cdot frac1-x^2
$$
As $xto 1$, the first factor tends to $2$, unambiguously. But the second factor is $pm 1$ depending on whether the numerator is positive or negative. That is,
$$
lim_xto 1^- f'(x) = 1qquadtextandqquadlim_xto 1^+ f'(x) = -1
$$
It follows that $f$ cannot be differentiable at $1$.
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Notice that
beginalign*
f'(x) &= frac1sqrt1-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2fracddxleft(frac2x1+x^2right)
\&= frac1sqrtleft(frac1+x^21+x^2right)^2-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2cdotfrac(1+x^2)(2) - (2x)(2x)(1+x^2)^2
\&= sqrtfrac(1+x^2)^2(1-x^2)^2cdot frac2(1-x^2)(1+x^2)^2
endalign*
(Skipping a bit of the algebra here). You would like to cancel the square and square root, and in the case of $(1+x^2)$, you can. But $1-x^2$ could be positive or negative, so $sqrt(1-x^2)^2 = |1-x^2|$, not $1-x^2$. Therefore
$$
f'(x) = frac21+x^2cdot frac1-x^2
$$
As $xto 1$, the first factor tends to $2$, unambiguously. But the second factor is $pm 1$ depending on whether the numerator is positive or negative. That is,
$$
lim_xto 1^- f'(x) = 1qquadtextandqquadlim_xto 1^+ f'(x) = -1
$$
It follows that $f$ cannot be differentiable at $1$.
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Notice that
beginalign*
f'(x) &= frac1sqrt1-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2fracddxleft(frac2x1+x^2right)
\&= frac1sqrtleft(frac1+x^21+x^2right)^2-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2cdotfrac(1+x^2)(2) - (2x)(2x)(1+x^2)^2
\&= sqrtfrac(1+x^2)^2(1-x^2)^2cdot frac2(1-x^2)(1+x^2)^2
endalign*
(Skipping a bit of the algebra here). You would like to cancel the square and square root, and in the case of $(1+x^2)$, you can. But $1-x^2$ could be positive or negative, so $sqrt(1-x^2)^2 = |1-x^2|$, not $1-x^2$. Therefore
$$
f'(x) = frac21+x^2cdot frac1-x^2
$$
As $xto 1$, the first factor tends to $2$, unambiguously. But the second factor is $pm 1$ depending on whether the numerator is positive or negative. That is,
$$
lim_xto 1^- f'(x) = 1qquadtextandqquadlim_xto 1^+ f'(x) = -1
$$
It follows that $f$ cannot be differentiable at $1$.
Notice that
beginalign*
f'(x) &= frac1sqrt1-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2fracddxleft(frac2x1+x^2right)
\&= frac1sqrtleft(frac1+x^21+x^2right)^2-left(frac2x1+x^2right)^2cdotfrac(1+x^2)(2) - (2x)(2x)(1+x^2)^2
\&= sqrtfrac(1+x^2)^2(1-x^2)^2cdot frac2(1-x^2)(1+x^2)^2
endalign*
(Skipping a bit of the algebra here). You would like to cancel the square and square root, and in the case of $(1+x^2)$, you can. But $1-x^2$ could be positive or negative, so $sqrt(1-x^2)^2 = |1-x^2|$, not $1-x^2$. Therefore
$$
f'(x) = frac21+x^2cdot frac1-x^2
$$
As $xto 1$, the first factor tends to $2$, unambiguously. But the second factor is $pm 1$ depending on whether the numerator is positive or negative. That is,
$$
lim_xto 1^- f'(x) = 1qquadtextandqquadlim_xto 1^+ f'(x) = -1
$$
It follows that $f$ cannot be differentiable at $1$.
answered Aug 28 at 15:01
Matthew Leingang
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Recall that
$$(arcsin u)'=frac1sqrt1-u^2$$
and since the derivative tends to $infty$ as $uto 1^-$ the function is not differentiable at that point.
That case is similar to $f(x)=sqrt x$ which has vertical tangent at $x=0$.
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up vote
0
down vote
Recall that
$$(arcsin u)'=frac1sqrt1-u^2$$
and since the derivative tends to $infty$ as $uto 1^-$ the function is not differentiable at that point.
That case is similar to $f(x)=sqrt x$ which has vertical tangent at $x=0$.
add a comment |Â
up vote
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up vote
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Recall that
$$(arcsin u)'=frac1sqrt1-u^2$$
and since the derivative tends to $infty$ as $uto 1^-$ the function is not differentiable at that point.
That case is similar to $f(x)=sqrt x$ which has vertical tangent at $x=0$.
Recall that
$$(arcsin u)'=frac1sqrt1-u^2$$
and since the derivative tends to $infty$ as $uto 1^-$ the function is not differentiable at that point.
That case is similar to $f(x)=sqrt x$ which has vertical tangent at $x=0$.
edited Aug 28 at 14:31
answered Aug 28 at 14:26
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