Show that $BbbE(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)=e^stBbbE(XY)$ for standard jointly normal random variables $(X,Y)$
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Let $X,Y$ be two normal random variables such that $BbbE(X)=0,;BbbE(Y)=0,;V(X)=1,;V(Y)=1.$
I would like to prove that for all $s,tinBbbR$ we have $$BbbEbigl(exp(sX-s^2/2)exp(tY-t^2/2)bigr)=exp(stBbbE(XY)).$$
As $X,Y$ are not independent I am not sure how can I tackle this problem. For exemple, I don't know the density $f_XY.$
EDIT: I have badly translated the problem (english to french). Indeed the assumption is 'with joint Gaussian distribution'.
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Let $X,Y$ be two normal random variables such that $BbbE(X)=0,;BbbE(Y)=0,;V(X)=1,;V(Y)=1.$
I would like to prove that for all $s,tinBbbR$ we have $$BbbEbigl(exp(sX-s^2/2)exp(tY-t^2/2)bigr)=exp(stBbbE(XY)).$$
As $X,Y$ are not independent I am not sure how can I tackle this problem. For exemple, I don't know the density $f_XY.$
EDIT: I have badly translated the problem (english to french). Indeed the assumption is 'with joint Gaussian distribution'.
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Let $X,Y$ be two normal random variables such that $BbbE(X)=0,;BbbE(Y)=0,;V(X)=1,;V(Y)=1.$
I would like to prove that for all $s,tinBbbR$ we have $$BbbEbigl(exp(sX-s^2/2)exp(tY-t^2/2)bigr)=exp(stBbbE(XY)).$$
As $X,Y$ are not independent I am not sure how can I tackle this problem. For exemple, I don't know the density $f_XY.$
EDIT: I have badly translated the problem (english to french). Indeed the assumption is 'with joint Gaussian distribution'.
probability-theory normal-distribution
Let $X,Y$ be two normal random variables such that $BbbE(X)=0,;BbbE(Y)=0,;V(X)=1,;V(Y)=1.$
I would like to prove that for all $s,tinBbbR$ we have $$BbbEbigl(exp(sX-s^2/2)exp(tY-t^2/2)bigr)=exp(stBbbE(XY)).$$
As $X,Y$ are not independent I am not sure how can I tackle this problem. For exemple, I don't know the density $f_XY.$
EDIT: I have badly translated the problem (english to french). Indeed the assumption is 'with joint Gaussian distribution'.
probability-theory normal-distribution
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Assuming furthermore that $(X,Y)$ is jointly normal, one knows that there exists some standard normal random variable $Z$ independent of $X$ such that $Y=uX+vZ$ with $u=E(XY)$ and $u^2+v^2=1$.
Then, by independence of $X$ and $Z$, the desired expectation $$(ast):=E(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)$$ is $$(ast)=E(e^sX-s^2/2+t(uX+vZ)-t^2/2)=E(e^(s+tu)X)E(e^tvZ)e^-s^2/2-t^2/2$$ Using the identity $$E(e^aX)=E(e^aZ)=e^a^2/2$$ for every $a$, one sees that $$(ast)=e^(s+ut)^2/2e^(tv)^2/2e^-s^2/2-t^2/2=e^ust$$ that is, the desired result.
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This is false. Without some assumption on joint distribution we cannot prove this. In fact, the stated equation gives a formula for $Ee^sX+tY$ and using this we can easily see that $(X,Y)$ has a 2-dimensional normal distribution. This is absurd since the fact that marginals are normal does not imply that the joint distribution is normal.
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2 Answers
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Assuming furthermore that $(X,Y)$ is jointly normal, one knows that there exists some standard normal random variable $Z$ independent of $X$ such that $Y=uX+vZ$ with $u=E(XY)$ and $u^2+v^2=1$.
Then, by independence of $X$ and $Z$, the desired expectation $$(ast):=E(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)$$ is $$(ast)=E(e^sX-s^2/2+t(uX+vZ)-t^2/2)=E(e^(s+tu)X)E(e^tvZ)e^-s^2/2-t^2/2$$ Using the identity $$E(e^aX)=E(e^aZ)=e^a^2/2$$ for every $a$, one sees that $$(ast)=e^(s+ut)^2/2e^(tv)^2/2e^-s^2/2-t^2/2=e^ust$$ that is, the desired result.
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Assuming furthermore that $(X,Y)$ is jointly normal, one knows that there exists some standard normal random variable $Z$ independent of $X$ such that $Y=uX+vZ$ with $u=E(XY)$ and $u^2+v^2=1$.
Then, by independence of $X$ and $Z$, the desired expectation $$(ast):=E(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)$$ is $$(ast)=E(e^sX-s^2/2+t(uX+vZ)-t^2/2)=E(e^(s+tu)X)E(e^tvZ)e^-s^2/2-t^2/2$$ Using the identity $$E(e^aX)=E(e^aZ)=e^a^2/2$$ for every $a$, one sees that $$(ast)=e^(s+ut)^2/2e^(tv)^2/2e^-s^2/2-t^2/2=e^ust$$ that is, the desired result.
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Assuming furthermore that $(X,Y)$ is jointly normal, one knows that there exists some standard normal random variable $Z$ independent of $X$ such that $Y=uX+vZ$ with $u=E(XY)$ and $u^2+v^2=1$.
Then, by independence of $X$ and $Z$, the desired expectation $$(ast):=E(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)$$ is $$(ast)=E(e^sX-s^2/2+t(uX+vZ)-t^2/2)=E(e^(s+tu)X)E(e^tvZ)e^-s^2/2-t^2/2$$ Using the identity $$E(e^aX)=E(e^aZ)=e^a^2/2$$ for every $a$, one sees that $$(ast)=e^(s+ut)^2/2e^(tv)^2/2e^-s^2/2-t^2/2=e^ust$$ that is, the desired result.
Assuming furthermore that $(X,Y)$ is jointly normal, one knows that there exists some standard normal random variable $Z$ independent of $X$ such that $Y=uX+vZ$ with $u=E(XY)$ and $u^2+v^2=1$.
Then, by independence of $X$ and $Z$, the desired expectation $$(ast):=E(e^sX-s^2/2+tY-t^2/2)$$ is $$(ast)=E(e^sX-s^2/2+t(uX+vZ)-t^2/2)=E(e^(s+tu)X)E(e^tvZ)e^-s^2/2-t^2/2$$ Using the identity $$E(e^aX)=E(e^aZ)=e^a^2/2$$ for every $a$, one sees that $$(ast)=e^(s+ut)^2/2e^(tv)^2/2e^-s^2/2-t^2/2=e^ust$$ that is, the desired result.
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This is false. Without some assumption on joint distribution we cannot prove this. In fact, the stated equation gives a formula for $Ee^sX+tY$ and using this we can easily see that $(X,Y)$ has a 2-dimensional normal distribution. This is absurd since the fact that marginals are normal does not imply that the joint distribution is normal.
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This is false. Without some assumption on joint distribution we cannot prove this. In fact, the stated equation gives a formula for $Ee^sX+tY$ and using this we can easily see that $(X,Y)$ has a 2-dimensional normal distribution. This is absurd since the fact that marginals are normal does not imply that the joint distribution is normal.
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This is false. Without some assumption on joint distribution we cannot prove this. In fact, the stated equation gives a formula for $Ee^sX+tY$ and using this we can easily see that $(X,Y)$ has a 2-dimensional normal distribution. This is absurd since the fact that marginals are normal does not imply that the joint distribution is normal.
This is false. Without some assumption on joint distribution we cannot prove this. In fact, the stated equation gives a formula for $Ee^sX+tY$ and using this we can easily see that $(X,Y)$ has a 2-dimensional normal distribution. This is absurd since the fact that marginals are normal does not imply that the joint distribution is normal.
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