Limit as $x to infty$ of $fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$
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I want to compute $limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$
By graphing it, clearly $x$ grows larger than $log(x)^log(log(x))$, so the limit will go to $0$.
I tried iterating L'Hopital's rule, but after three derivations, the sequence of limits gets successively more complicated.
How can you prove that the limit is indeed $0$?
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I want to compute $limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$
By graphing it, clearly $x$ grows larger than $log(x)^log(log(x))$, so the limit will go to $0$.
I tried iterating L'Hopital's rule, but after three derivations, the sequence of limits gets successively more complicated.
How can you prove that the limit is indeed $0$?
limits
Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54
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I want to compute $limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$
By graphing it, clearly $x$ grows larger than $log(x)^log(log(x))$, so the limit will go to $0$.
I tried iterating L'Hopital's rule, but after three derivations, the sequence of limits gets successively more complicated.
How can you prove that the limit is indeed $0$?
limits
I want to compute $limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$
By graphing it, clearly $x$ grows larger than $log(x)^log(log(x))$, so the limit will go to $0$.
I tried iterating L'Hopital's rule, but after three derivations, the sequence of limits gets successively more complicated.
How can you prove that the limit is indeed $0$?
limits
edited Aug 29 at 15:08
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asked Aug 29 at 6:33
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Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54
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Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54
Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54
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HINT:
Let $x=exp(e^u)$. Then your limit is equal to $$lim_utoinftyfrac(e^u)^log(e^u)exp(e^u)=lim_utoinftyfrace^u^2e^e^u=lim_utoinftye^u^2-e^u=cdots$$
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Assume $x=e^y$ with $y to infty$ then
$$fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x=fraclog(e^y)^log(log(e^y))e^y=fracy^log ye^y=frace^log^2 ye^y=e^log^2y -y$$
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Take logarithm!
Then you are interested in the limit $(log log x)^2-log x$, which is clearly $-infty$.
So the answer equals to the limit $limlimits_yrightarrow -infty e^y = 0$.
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We can implement L'Hopital's rule:
$A= limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$, according to $log$ rule: $log A ^ B=BlogA$ we have:
$A = limlimits_x to infty frac log(log(x))log(x)x$ which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1xlog(x)+log(log(x))frac1x1$, then,
$A=limlimits_x to infty(frac1x+fraclog(log(x))x)$, and, by $limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x=0$, we have:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(log(x))x$, which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule again:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1x1=limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x log(x)$, which is limit rule $frac1infty=0$, so, finaly we have:
$A=0$
Thanks, Vladica.
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
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4 Answers
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
HINT:
Let $x=exp(e^u)$. Then your limit is equal to $$lim_utoinftyfrac(e^u)^log(e^u)exp(e^u)=lim_utoinftyfrace^u^2e^e^u=lim_utoinftye^u^2-e^u=cdots$$
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HINT:
Let $x=exp(e^u)$. Then your limit is equal to $$lim_utoinftyfrac(e^u)^log(e^u)exp(e^u)=lim_utoinftyfrace^u^2e^e^u=lim_utoinftye^u^2-e^u=cdots$$
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up vote
8
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up vote
8
down vote
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HINT:
Let $x=exp(e^u)$. Then your limit is equal to $$lim_utoinftyfrac(e^u)^log(e^u)exp(e^u)=lim_utoinftyfrace^u^2e^e^u=lim_utoinftye^u^2-e^u=cdots$$
HINT:
Let $x=exp(e^u)$. Then your limit is equal to $$lim_utoinftyfrac(e^u)^log(e^u)exp(e^u)=lim_utoinftyfrace^u^2e^e^u=lim_utoinftye^u^2-e^u=cdots$$
answered Aug 29 at 6:42
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HINT
Assume $x=e^y$ with $y to infty$ then
$$fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x=fraclog(e^y)^log(log(e^y))e^y=fracy^log ye^y=frace^log^2 ye^y=e^log^2y -y$$
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HINT
Assume $x=e^y$ with $y to infty$ then
$$fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x=fraclog(e^y)^log(log(e^y))e^y=fracy^log ye^y=frace^log^2 ye^y=e^log^2y -y$$
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up vote
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up vote
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HINT
Assume $x=e^y$ with $y to infty$ then
$$fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x=fraclog(e^y)^log(log(e^y))e^y=fracy^log ye^y=frace^log^2 ye^y=e^log^2y -y$$
HINT
Assume $x=e^y$ with $y to infty$ then
$$fraclog(x)^log(log(x))x=fraclog(e^y)^log(log(e^y))e^y=fracy^log ye^y=frace^log^2 ye^y=e^log^2y -y$$
edited Aug 29 at 6:47
answered Aug 29 at 6:40
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Take logarithm!
Then you are interested in the limit $(log log x)^2-log x$, which is clearly $-infty$.
So the answer equals to the limit $limlimits_yrightarrow -infty e^y = 0$.
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up vote
2
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Take logarithm!
Then you are interested in the limit $(log log x)^2-log x$, which is clearly $-infty$.
So the answer equals to the limit $limlimits_yrightarrow -infty e^y = 0$.
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up vote
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up vote
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Take logarithm!
Then you are interested in the limit $(log log x)^2-log x$, which is clearly $-infty$.
So the answer equals to the limit $limlimits_yrightarrow -infty e^y = 0$.
Take logarithm!
Then you are interested in the limit $(log log x)^2-log x$, which is clearly $-infty$.
So the answer equals to the limit $limlimits_yrightarrow -infty e^y = 0$.
answered Aug 29 at 6:53
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We can implement L'Hopital's rule:
$A= limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$, according to $log$ rule: $log A ^ B=BlogA$ we have:
$A = limlimits_x to infty frac log(log(x))log(x)x$ which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1xlog(x)+log(log(x))frac1x1$, then,
$A=limlimits_x to infty(frac1x+fraclog(log(x))x)$, and, by $limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x=0$, we have:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(log(x))x$, which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule again:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1x1=limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x log(x)$, which is limit rule $frac1infty=0$, so, finaly we have:
$A=0$
Thanks, Vladica.
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
We can implement L'Hopital's rule:
$A= limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$, according to $log$ rule: $log A ^ B=BlogA$ we have:
$A = limlimits_x to infty frac log(log(x))log(x)x$ which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1xlog(x)+log(log(x))frac1x1$, then,
$A=limlimits_x to infty(frac1x+fraclog(log(x))x)$, and, by $limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x=0$, we have:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(log(x))x$, which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule again:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1x1=limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x log(x)$, which is limit rule $frac1infty=0$, so, finaly we have:
$A=0$
Thanks, Vladica.
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
We can implement L'Hopital's rule:
$A= limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$, according to $log$ rule: $log A ^ B=BlogA$ we have:
$A = limlimits_x to infty frac log(log(x))log(x)x$ which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1xlog(x)+log(log(x))frac1x1$, then,
$A=limlimits_x to infty(frac1x+fraclog(log(x))x)$, and, by $limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x=0$, we have:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(log(x))x$, which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule again:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1x1=limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x log(x)$, which is limit rule $frac1infty=0$, so, finaly we have:
$A=0$
Thanks, Vladica.
We can implement L'Hopital's rule:
$A= limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(x)^log(log(x))x$, according to $log$ rule: $log A ^ B=BlogA$ we have:
$A = limlimits_x to infty frac log(log(x))log(x)x$ which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1xlog(x)+log(log(x))frac1x1$, then,
$A=limlimits_x to infty(frac1x+fraclog(log(x))x)$, and, by $limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x=0$, we have:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfraclog(log(x))x$, which is rule type $fracinftyinfty$ so, we can implement L'Hopital's rule again:
$A=limlimits_x to inftyfracfrac1log(x)frac1x1=limlimits_x to inftyfrac1x log(x)$, which is limit rule $frac1infty=0$, so, finaly we have:
$A=0$
Thanks, Vladica.
answered Aug 29 at 7:16
vladadj31
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I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
add a comment |Â
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
I think a different limit is needed....you may see answers above
â dmtri
Aug 29 at 15:47
1
1
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
I don't think this solution is valid, the numerator is in the form $log(a)^b$, but the log rule only applies for equations of the form $log(a^b)$
â user477805
Aug 30 at 1:57
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
in that case, should be $(log(a))^b$ or $log^b(a)$
â vladadj31
Aug 30 at 7:07
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Maybe a change of variable like $t = log(x)$ would make it a bit easier?
â xbh
Aug 29 at 6:39
$$log(f(e^z))=log^2 z-zto-infty$$
â Yves Daoust
Aug 29 at 7:28
I think a parentheses should be placed outside the "base" $log$, otherwise to find the limit is relatively easy.
â dmtri
Aug 30 at 5:54