Help with Math notation: what is ψ & ϕ in this example? [closed]

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I am taking the Probabilistic Graphical Models class on Coursera. They post the question shown in the linked image ...



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The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean. Can anyone help me understand this please?



My current best guess is that:



  • ϕ means a function/product of X & Y and

  • ψ means the result/return value of the function/product

Am I in the right area at all?







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    "The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
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  • seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
    – Alvin Lepik
    Aug 29 at 8:22










  • Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
    – Wuestenfux
    Aug 29 at 8:23










  • Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:26














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I am taking the Probabilistic Graphical Models class on Coursera. They post the question shown in the linked image ...



enter image description here



The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean. Can anyone help me understand this please?



My current best guess is that:



  • ϕ means a function/product of X & Y and

  • ψ means the result/return value of the function/product

Am I in the right area at all?







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    "The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
    – Did
    Aug 29 at 8:21











  • seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
    – Alvin Lepik
    Aug 29 at 8:22










  • Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
    – Wuestenfux
    Aug 29 at 8:23










  • Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:26












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I am taking the Probabilistic Graphical Models class on Coursera. They post the question shown in the linked image ...



enter image description here



The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean. Can anyone help me understand this please?



My current best guess is that:



  • ϕ means a function/product of X & Y and

  • ψ means the result/return value of the function/product

Am I in the right area at all?







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I am taking the Probabilistic Graphical Models class on Coursera. They post the question shown in the linked image ...



enter image description here



The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean. Can anyone help me understand this please?



My current best guess is that:



  • ϕ means a function/product of X & Y and

  • ψ means the result/return value of the function/product

Am I in the right area at all?









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  • There is a button that looks like a picture of a mountain (at least on the desktop version of Mth.SE) that enables you to add images.
    – zahbaz
    Aug 29 at 8:19






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    "The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
    – Did
    Aug 29 at 8:21











  • seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
    – Alvin Lepik
    Aug 29 at 8:22










  • Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
    – Wuestenfux
    Aug 29 at 8:23










  • Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:26
















  • There is a button that looks like a picture of a mountain (at least on the desktop version of Mth.SE) that enables you to add images.
    – zahbaz
    Aug 29 at 8:19






  • 1




    "The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
    – Did
    Aug 29 at 8:21











  • seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
    – Alvin Lepik
    Aug 29 at 8:22










  • Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
    – Wuestenfux
    Aug 29 at 8:23










  • Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:26















There is a button that looks like a picture of a mountain (at least on the desktop version of Mth.SE) that enables you to add images.
– zahbaz
Aug 29 at 8:19




There is a button that looks like a picture of a mountain (at least on the desktop version of Mth.SE) that enables you to add images.
– zahbaz
Aug 29 at 8:19




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"The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
– Did
Aug 29 at 8:21





"The course doesn't explain what the symbols "ψ" and "ϕ" mean" Yes it does, $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are defined in the two small arrays in the picture, for example, $phi_2(2,1)=0.9$, and $psi$ is defined in the text.
– Did
Aug 29 at 8:21













seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
– Alvin Lepik
Aug 29 at 8:22




seems straight forward, e.g $psi (2,1,2) = varphi _1(2,1)cdot varphi _2(1,2) = 0.5cdot 0.2 = 0.1$
– Alvin Lepik
Aug 29 at 8:22












Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
– Wuestenfux
Aug 29 at 8:23




Strange, $phi$ and $psi$ are not probability functions (image sums must be 1).
– Wuestenfux
Aug 29 at 8:23












Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
– Axle Max
Aug 29 at 8:26




Thank you for these answers but you're thinking way too advanced here. I really am a total NooB. I am asking what the symbols mean, on their own. I can see that ϕ1(X,Y) maps to the first table, that ϕ2(X,Y) maps to the second table and ψ(X,Y,Z) maps to the last table but regardless of what they map to what do the symbols mean please?
– Axle Max
Aug 29 at 8:26










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$phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are both functions of two variables. The functions appear to be defined by the first two tables. For example, $phi_1(1,1) = 0.8$ from the first entry. The function $psi(X,Y,Z)$ is defined as the product of the other two, according to the second paragraph. That is $$psi(X,Y,Z) = phi_1(X,Y)phi_2(Y,Z)$$



We then find, for example, that



$$psi(1,1,1) = phi_1(1,1)phi_2(1,1) = (0.8)(0.2)= 0.16$$



--



The symbols themselves, $phi$ and $psi$, are simply names of the functions. These are the Greek lowercase letters phi and psi. The problem could have called them $f$ and $g$ or $bob$ and $alice$.






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  • Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:30










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As pointed out in the comments, $phi_1$, $phi_2$ and $psi$ are functions of $X$ and $Y$, $Y$ and $Z$ and $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ respectively.



Here, $phi _1 $ and $phi_2$ are defined by the tables given in the question. Also, $psi $ is defined by $psi (X,Y,Z) = phi_1 (X,Y).phi_2(Y,Z)$.




You must be familiar with the concept of functions in probability. If not, then the gist is this -



A function in probability is a function which maps from the set of some events ( the sample space ), to the interval $[0,1]$.




Here your $X$ and $Y$ take values $1$ and $2$. Corresponding to the ordered pair of $u(X,Y)$ of values taken by $X$ and $Y$ we get some value of $phi_1 $ as given by the tables. Similarly, the other two functions also take si E values.




In sum, $psi $, $phi_1 $ and $phi_2 $ are just bands of functions and not some special notations.



Try to think of them as names of variables in the same spirit as $x$ , or more correctly ad names if functions in the same spirit as $f(x)$ or $g(x,y)$.






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    accepted










    $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are both functions of two variables. The functions appear to be defined by the first two tables. For example, $phi_1(1,1) = 0.8$ from the first entry. The function $psi(X,Y,Z)$ is defined as the product of the other two, according to the second paragraph. That is $$psi(X,Y,Z) = phi_1(X,Y)phi_2(Y,Z)$$



    We then find, for example, that



    $$psi(1,1,1) = phi_1(1,1)phi_2(1,1) = (0.8)(0.2)= 0.16$$



    --



    The symbols themselves, $phi$ and $psi$, are simply names of the functions. These are the Greek lowercase letters phi and psi. The problem could have called them $f$ and $g$ or $bob$ and $alice$.






    share|cite|improve this answer




















    • Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
      – Axle Max
      Aug 29 at 8:30










    • Happy to help !
      – zahbaz
      Aug 29 at 8:31














    up vote
    1
    down vote



    accepted










    $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are both functions of two variables. The functions appear to be defined by the first two tables. For example, $phi_1(1,1) = 0.8$ from the first entry. The function $psi(X,Y,Z)$ is defined as the product of the other two, according to the second paragraph. That is $$psi(X,Y,Z) = phi_1(X,Y)phi_2(Y,Z)$$



    We then find, for example, that



    $$psi(1,1,1) = phi_1(1,1)phi_2(1,1) = (0.8)(0.2)= 0.16$$



    --



    The symbols themselves, $phi$ and $psi$, are simply names of the functions. These are the Greek lowercase letters phi and psi. The problem could have called them $f$ and $g$ or $bob$ and $alice$.






    share|cite|improve this answer




















    • Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
      – Axle Max
      Aug 29 at 8:30










    • Happy to help !
      – zahbaz
      Aug 29 at 8:31












    up vote
    1
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
    1
    down vote



    accepted






    $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are both functions of two variables. The functions appear to be defined by the first two tables. For example, $phi_1(1,1) = 0.8$ from the first entry. The function $psi(X,Y,Z)$ is defined as the product of the other two, according to the second paragraph. That is $$psi(X,Y,Z) = phi_1(X,Y)phi_2(Y,Z)$$



    We then find, for example, that



    $$psi(1,1,1) = phi_1(1,1)phi_2(1,1) = (0.8)(0.2)= 0.16$$



    --



    The symbols themselves, $phi$ and $psi$, are simply names of the functions. These are the Greek lowercase letters phi and psi. The problem could have called them $f$ and $g$ or $bob$ and $alice$.






    share|cite|improve this answer












    $phi_1$ and $phi_2$ are both functions of two variables. The functions appear to be defined by the first two tables. For example, $phi_1(1,1) = 0.8$ from the first entry. The function $psi(X,Y,Z)$ is defined as the product of the other two, according to the second paragraph. That is $$psi(X,Y,Z) = phi_1(X,Y)phi_2(Y,Z)$$



    We then find, for example, that



    $$psi(1,1,1) = phi_1(1,1)phi_2(1,1) = (0.8)(0.2)= 0.16$$



    --



    The symbols themselves, $phi$ and $psi$, are simply names of the functions. These are the Greek lowercase letters phi and psi. The problem could have called them $f$ and $g$ or $bob$ and $alice$.







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    • Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
      – Axle Max
      Aug 29 at 8:30










    • Happy to help !
      – zahbaz
      Aug 29 at 8:31
















    • Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
      – Axle Max
      Aug 29 at 8:30










    • Happy to help !
      – zahbaz
      Aug 29 at 8:31















    Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:30




    Thank you. That is very helpful and clear. I really appreciate the help.
    – Axle Max
    Aug 29 at 8:30












    Happy to help !
    – zahbaz
    Aug 29 at 8:31




    Happy to help !
    – zahbaz
    Aug 29 at 8:31










    up vote
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    down vote













    As pointed out in the comments, $phi_1$, $phi_2$ and $psi$ are functions of $X$ and $Y$, $Y$ and $Z$ and $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ respectively.



    Here, $phi _1 $ and $phi_2$ are defined by the tables given in the question. Also, $psi $ is defined by $psi (X,Y,Z) = phi_1 (X,Y).phi_2(Y,Z)$.




    You must be familiar with the concept of functions in probability. If not, then the gist is this -



    A function in probability is a function which maps from the set of some events ( the sample space ), to the interval $[0,1]$.




    Here your $X$ and $Y$ take values $1$ and $2$. Corresponding to the ordered pair of $u(X,Y)$ of values taken by $X$ and $Y$ we get some value of $phi_1 $ as given by the tables. Similarly, the other two functions also take si E values.




    In sum, $psi $, $phi_1 $ and $phi_2 $ are just bands of functions and not some special notations.



    Try to think of them as names of variables in the same spirit as $x$ , or more correctly ad names if functions in the same spirit as $f(x)$ or $g(x,y)$.






    share|cite|improve this answer


























      up vote
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      down vote













      As pointed out in the comments, $phi_1$, $phi_2$ and $psi$ are functions of $X$ and $Y$, $Y$ and $Z$ and $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ respectively.



      Here, $phi _1 $ and $phi_2$ are defined by the tables given in the question. Also, $psi $ is defined by $psi (X,Y,Z) = phi_1 (X,Y).phi_2(Y,Z)$.




      You must be familiar with the concept of functions in probability. If not, then the gist is this -



      A function in probability is a function which maps from the set of some events ( the sample space ), to the interval $[0,1]$.




      Here your $X$ and $Y$ take values $1$ and $2$. Corresponding to the ordered pair of $u(X,Y)$ of values taken by $X$ and $Y$ we get some value of $phi_1 $ as given by the tables. Similarly, the other two functions also take si E values.




      In sum, $psi $, $phi_1 $ and $phi_2 $ are just bands of functions and not some special notations.



      Try to think of them as names of variables in the same spirit as $x$ , or more correctly ad names if functions in the same spirit as $f(x)$ or $g(x,y)$.






      share|cite|improve this answer
























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        As pointed out in the comments, $phi_1$, $phi_2$ and $psi$ are functions of $X$ and $Y$, $Y$ and $Z$ and $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ respectively.



        Here, $phi _1 $ and $phi_2$ are defined by the tables given in the question. Also, $psi $ is defined by $psi (X,Y,Z) = phi_1 (X,Y).phi_2(Y,Z)$.




        You must be familiar with the concept of functions in probability. If not, then the gist is this -



        A function in probability is a function which maps from the set of some events ( the sample space ), to the interval $[0,1]$.




        Here your $X$ and $Y$ take values $1$ and $2$. Corresponding to the ordered pair of $u(X,Y)$ of values taken by $X$ and $Y$ we get some value of $phi_1 $ as given by the tables. Similarly, the other two functions also take si E values.




        In sum, $psi $, $phi_1 $ and $phi_2 $ are just bands of functions and not some special notations.



        Try to think of them as names of variables in the same spirit as $x$ , or more correctly ad names if functions in the same spirit as $f(x)$ or $g(x,y)$.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        As pointed out in the comments, $phi_1$, $phi_2$ and $psi$ are functions of $X$ and $Y$, $Y$ and $Z$ and $X$, $Y$ and $Z$ respectively.



        Here, $phi _1 $ and $phi_2$ are defined by the tables given in the question. Also, $psi $ is defined by $psi (X,Y,Z) = phi_1 (X,Y).phi_2(Y,Z)$.




        You must be familiar with the concept of functions in probability. If not, then the gist is this -



        A function in probability is a function which maps from the set of some events ( the sample space ), to the interval $[0,1]$.




        Here your $X$ and $Y$ take values $1$ and $2$. Corresponding to the ordered pair of $u(X,Y)$ of values taken by $X$ and $Y$ we get some value of $phi_1 $ as given by the tables. Similarly, the other two functions also take si E values.




        In sum, $psi $, $phi_1 $ and $phi_2 $ are just bands of functions and not some special notations.



        Try to think of them as names of variables in the same spirit as $x$ , or more correctly ad names if functions in the same spirit as $f(x)$ or $g(x,y)$.







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