How to write disc of convergence in $ (1) $ in the following form $ |x|_p < K $

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p-adic field or Non-Archimedian valued field $ mathbbQ_p$:



If a power series of the form $ sum_n geq 0 a_n (x-3)^n $ in $ mathbbQ_p$ has radius of convergence $ R=p^-frac2p-1 $ . , then
$$ |x-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1 , cdots cdots (1)$$
where $ p$ is prime.



How to write disc of convergence in $ (1) $ in the following form
$$ |x|_p < K $$
where $K$ is to be determined.



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$|x|_p=|(x-3)+3|_p leq |x-3|_p+|3|_3 <p^-frac2p-1+|3|_3 =1+p^-frac2p-1=K, say$



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    Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
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  • @TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
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p-adic field or Non-Archimedian valued field $ mathbbQ_p$:



If a power series of the form $ sum_n geq 0 a_n (x-3)^n $ in $ mathbbQ_p$ has radius of convergence $ R=p^-frac2p-1 $ . , then
$$ |x-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1 , cdots cdots (1)$$
where $ p$ is prime.



How to write disc of convergence in $ (1) $ in the following form
$$ |x|_p < K $$
where $K$ is to be determined.



Answer:



$|x|_p=|(x-3)+3|_p leq |x-3|_p+|3|_3 <p^-frac2p-1+|3|_3 =1+p^-frac2p-1=K, say$



I need confirmation of my work.



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    Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
    – Torsten Schoeneberg
    Aug 29 at 20:39










  • @TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
    – yourmath
    Aug 30 at 6:13












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p-adic field or Non-Archimedian valued field $ mathbbQ_p$:



If a power series of the form $ sum_n geq 0 a_n (x-3)^n $ in $ mathbbQ_p$ has radius of convergence $ R=p^-frac2p-1 $ . , then
$$ |x-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1 , cdots cdots (1)$$
where $ p$ is prime.



How to write disc of convergence in $ (1) $ in the following form
$$ |x|_p < K $$
where $K$ is to be determined.



Answer:



$|x|_p=|(x-3)+3|_p leq |x-3|_p+|3|_3 <p^-frac2p-1+|3|_3 =1+p^-frac2p-1=K, say$



I need confirmation of my work.



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p-adic field or Non-Archimedian valued field $ mathbbQ_p$:



If a power series of the form $ sum_n geq 0 a_n (x-3)^n $ in $ mathbbQ_p$ has radius of convergence $ R=p^-frac2p-1 $ . , then
$$ |x-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1 , cdots cdots (1)$$
where $ p$ is prime.



How to write disc of convergence in $ (1) $ in the following form
$$ |x|_p < K $$
where $K$ is to be determined.



Answer:



$|x|_p=|(x-3)+3|_p leq |x-3|_p+|3|_3 <p^-frac2p-1+|3|_3 =1+p^-frac2p-1=K, say$



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    Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
    – Torsten Schoeneberg
    Aug 29 at 20:39










  • @TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
    – yourmath
    Aug 30 at 6:13












  • 1




    Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
    – Torsten Schoeneberg
    Aug 29 at 20:39










  • @TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
    – yourmath
    Aug 30 at 6:13







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Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Aug 29 at 20:39




Are you asking how to write $B(3, R)$ (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball $B(0, K)$? In ultrametrics, any point within an open ball can serve as centre of that ball, so if we had $0 in B(3, R)$, then we could take $K=R$. However, it seems to me that $0 notin B(3, R)$ for any prime $p$, so you cannot write that ball as a ball around $0$ at all. Or do I misunderstand the question?
– Torsten Schoeneberg
Aug 29 at 20:39












@TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
– yourmath
Aug 30 at 6:13




@TorstenSchoeneberg, Yes I am asking how to write B(3,R) (the open ball with centre 3 and radius R) as ball B(0,K)?
– yourmath
Aug 30 at 6:13










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As mentioned in the comment, this is impossible. If there were a positive $K$ with $x: = _p<p^-frac2p-1 $ , then necessarily $x=0$ would have to be in the RHS set, in other words we would have $|-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1$. But we have



$|-3|_p = |3|_p = begincases
1 not <p^-frac2p-1 qquadtext if ; p neq 3\
3^-1 not <3^-frac23-1 qquad text if p=3.endcases$



In other words, the series does not converge at $0$, hence in no disk around (i.e., in particular containing) $0$.




Note that if $R$ were strictly greater than $1$ resp. $1/3$, you could just choose $K=R$, because then $ 0 in _p<R $, and by the strong triangle inequality one has



$$|x_1-x_2|_p < R Rightarrow qquad [textfor all y, |y-x_1|_p < R Leftrightarrow |y-x_2|_p >R]$$



or in other words, any point contained in an open ball of a certain radius can serve as centre of that ball (here we would apply that to $x_1 =0$ and $x_2 = 3$).






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    As mentioned in the comment, this is impossible. If there were a positive $K$ with $x: = _p<p^-frac2p-1 $ , then necessarily $x=0$ would have to be in the RHS set, in other words we would have $|-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1$. But we have



    $|-3|_p = |3|_p = begincases
    1 not <p^-frac2p-1 qquadtext if ; p neq 3\
    3^-1 not <3^-frac23-1 qquad text if p=3.endcases$



    In other words, the series does not converge at $0$, hence in no disk around (i.e., in particular containing) $0$.




    Note that if $R$ were strictly greater than $1$ resp. $1/3$, you could just choose $K=R$, because then $ 0 in _p<R $, and by the strong triangle inequality one has



    $$|x_1-x_2|_p < R Rightarrow qquad [textfor all y, |y-x_1|_p < R Leftrightarrow |y-x_2|_p >R]$$



    or in other words, any point contained in an open ball of a certain radius can serve as centre of that ball (here we would apply that to $x_1 =0$ and $x_2 = 3$).






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      As mentioned in the comment, this is impossible. If there were a positive $K$ with $x: = _p<p^-frac2p-1 $ , then necessarily $x=0$ would have to be in the RHS set, in other words we would have $|-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1$. But we have



      $|-3|_p = |3|_p = begincases
      1 not <p^-frac2p-1 qquadtext if ; p neq 3\
      3^-1 not <3^-frac23-1 qquad text if p=3.endcases$



      In other words, the series does not converge at $0$, hence in no disk around (i.e., in particular containing) $0$.




      Note that if $R$ were strictly greater than $1$ resp. $1/3$, you could just choose $K=R$, because then $ 0 in _p<R $, and by the strong triangle inequality one has



      $$|x_1-x_2|_p < R Rightarrow qquad [textfor all y, |y-x_1|_p < R Leftrightarrow |y-x_2|_p >R]$$



      or in other words, any point contained in an open ball of a certain radius can serve as centre of that ball (here we would apply that to $x_1 =0$ and $x_2 = 3$).






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        As mentioned in the comment, this is impossible. If there were a positive $K$ with $x: = _p<p^-frac2p-1 $ , then necessarily $x=0$ would have to be in the RHS set, in other words we would have $|-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1$. But we have



        $|-3|_p = |3|_p = begincases
        1 not <p^-frac2p-1 qquadtext if ; p neq 3\
        3^-1 not <3^-frac23-1 qquad text if p=3.endcases$



        In other words, the series does not converge at $0$, hence in no disk around (i.e., in particular containing) $0$.




        Note that if $R$ were strictly greater than $1$ resp. $1/3$, you could just choose $K=R$, because then $ 0 in _p<R $, and by the strong triangle inequality one has



        $$|x_1-x_2|_p < R Rightarrow qquad [textfor all y, |y-x_1|_p < R Leftrightarrow |y-x_2|_p >R]$$



        or in other words, any point contained in an open ball of a certain radius can serve as centre of that ball (here we would apply that to $x_1 =0$ and $x_2 = 3$).






        share|cite|improve this answer












        As mentioned in the comment, this is impossible. If there were a positive $K$ with $x: = _p<p^-frac2p-1 $ , then necessarily $x=0$ would have to be in the RHS set, in other words we would have $|-3|_p<p^-frac2p-1$. But we have



        $|-3|_p = |3|_p = begincases
        1 not <p^-frac2p-1 qquadtext if ; p neq 3\
        3^-1 not <3^-frac23-1 qquad text if p=3.endcases$



        In other words, the series does not converge at $0$, hence in no disk around (i.e., in particular containing) $0$.




        Note that if $R$ were strictly greater than $1$ resp. $1/3$, you could just choose $K=R$, because then $ 0 in _p<R $, and by the strong triangle inequality one has



        $$|x_1-x_2|_p < R Rightarrow qquad [textfor all y, |y-x_1|_p < R Leftrightarrow |y-x_2|_p >R]$$



        or in other words, any point contained in an open ball of a certain radius can serve as centre of that ball (here we would apply that to $x_1 =0$ and $x_2 = 3$).







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