Does the set of all $C^infty$ functions having compact support an ideal in $C(BbbR)$?
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Question. Let $C(BbbR)$ denote the ring of real-valued continuous functions on $BbbR$, with pointwise addition and multiplication. Which of the following form an ideal in this ring?
- The set of all $C^infty$ functions having compact support.
- $C_c(BbbR)$
- The set of all continuous functions which vanish at infinity.
My Solution.
True.(Follows from: $Support(f+g) subset support(f) cup support(g)$ also $Support(fg) subset support(f)$ and $support(f):=cl f(x) neq 0$)
False. (Take, $f(x)=frac11+x^2 in C_0(BbbR)$ and $r(x)=1+x^2in C(BbbR)$, then $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$).
But I cannot find a counter example in (1) as I did in (3) ...
Suppose I choose $f(x)=1$ in $[-1,1]$ and take $r(x)=|x|$. Then $rf(x)=|x|$ and $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$. But the problem is if I define $f=0$ outside $[-1,1]$ it wouldn't be smooth...
So I think I have to find another counter example. Can any one please help me to find an counter example here?
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Question. Let $C(BbbR)$ denote the ring of real-valued continuous functions on $BbbR$, with pointwise addition and multiplication. Which of the following form an ideal in this ring?
- The set of all $C^infty$ functions having compact support.
- $C_c(BbbR)$
- The set of all continuous functions which vanish at infinity.
My Solution.
True.(Follows from: $Support(f+g) subset support(f) cup support(g)$ also $Support(fg) subset support(f)$ and $support(f):=cl f(x) neq 0$)
False. (Take, $f(x)=frac11+x^2 in C_0(BbbR)$ and $r(x)=1+x^2in C(BbbR)$, then $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$).
But I cannot find a counter example in (1) as I did in (3) ...
Suppose I choose $f(x)=1$ in $[-1,1]$ and take $r(x)=|x|$. Then $rf(x)=|x|$ and $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$. But the problem is if I define $f=0$ outside $[-1,1]$ it wouldn't be smooth...
So I think I have to find another counter example. Can any one please help me to find an counter example here?
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Question. Let $C(BbbR)$ denote the ring of real-valued continuous functions on $BbbR$, with pointwise addition and multiplication. Which of the following form an ideal in this ring?
- The set of all $C^infty$ functions having compact support.
- $C_c(BbbR)$
- The set of all continuous functions which vanish at infinity.
My Solution.
True.(Follows from: $Support(f+g) subset support(f) cup support(g)$ also $Support(fg) subset support(f)$ and $support(f):=cl f(x) neq 0$)
False. (Take, $f(x)=frac11+x^2 in C_0(BbbR)$ and $r(x)=1+x^2in C(BbbR)$, then $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$).
But I cannot find a counter example in (1) as I did in (3) ...
Suppose I choose $f(x)=1$ in $[-1,1]$ and take $r(x)=|x|$. Then $rf(x)=|x|$ and $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$. But the problem is if I define $f=0$ outside $[-1,1]$ it wouldn't be smooth...
So I think I have to find another counter example. Can any one please help me to find an counter example here?
real-analysis ideals
Question. Let $C(BbbR)$ denote the ring of real-valued continuous functions on $BbbR$, with pointwise addition and multiplication. Which of the following form an ideal in this ring?
- The set of all $C^infty$ functions having compact support.
- $C_c(BbbR)$
- The set of all continuous functions which vanish at infinity.
My Solution.
True.(Follows from: $Support(f+g) subset support(f) cup support(g)$ also $Support(fg) subset support(f)$ and $support(f):=cl f(x) neq 0$)
False. (Take, $f(x)=frac11+x^2 in C_0(BbbR)$ and $r(x)=1+x^2in C(BbbR)$, then $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$).
But I cannot find a counter example in (1) as I did in (3) ...
Suppose I choose $f(x)=1$ in $[-1,1]$ and take $r(x)=|x|$. Then $rf(x)=|x|$ and $rf$ doesn't belong to $C_0(BbbR)$. But the problem is if I define $f=0$ outside $[-1,1]$ it wouldn't be smooth...
So I think I have to find another counter example. Can any one please help me to find an counter example here?
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There exists a $C^infty$ function $f$ such that $f(x)=1$ for all $x in (-1,1)$ and $f(x)=0$ for $|x| >2$. [Construction of such functions using $e^-1/x$ is standard]. If you multiply this by $|x|$ you will go out of $C^infty$.
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There exists a $C^infty$ function $f$ such that $f(x)=1$ for all $x in (-1,1)$ and $f(x)=0$ for $|x| >2$. [Construction of such functions using $e^-1/x$ is standard]. If you multiply this by $|x|$ you will go out of $C^infty$.
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There exists a $C^infty$ function $f$ such that $f(x)=1$ for all $x in (-1,1)$ and $f(x)=0$ for $|x| >2$. [Construction of such functions using $e^-1/x$ is standard]. If you multiply this by $|x|$ you will go out of $C^infty$.
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There exists a $C^infty$ function $f$ such that $f(x)=1$ for all $x in (-1,1)$ and $f(x)=0$ for $|x| >2$. [Construction of such functions using $e^-1/x$ is standard]. If you multiply this by $|x|$ you will go out of $C^infty$.
There exists a $C^infty$ function $f$ such that $f(x)=1$ for all $x in (-1,1)$ and $f(x)=0$ for $|x| >2$. [Construction of such functions using $e^-1/x$ is standard]. If you multiply this by $|x|$ you will go out of $C^infty$.
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