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How to construct a function $fgeq0$ such that i) $fin L^p([0,1])forall p>0$ and ii) $esssup_I f=+infty$ for any interval $Isubset[0,1]$ ?
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How to construct a function $fgeq0$ such that i) $fin L^p([0,1])forall p>0$ and ii) $esssup_I f=+infty$ for any interval $Isubset[0,1]$ ?
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How to construct a function $fgeq0$ such that i) $fin L^p([0,1])forall p>0$ and ii) $esssup_I f=+infty$ for any interval $Isubset[0,1]$ ?
Thank you!
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How about
$$
f(x)=|log x|?
$$
The above is a wrong answer, since it does not fulfill 3. So let's try again.
If $0<a<1$, then
$$
int_0^1|log |x-a||,dx=1 - (1 - a) log(1 - a)- a log a<2.
$$
Order the rationals in $[0,1]$ in a sequence $a_n$, let $f_n(x)=bigl|,log |x-a_n|,bigr|$ and
$$
f(x)=sum_n=1^infty2^-nf_n(x) .
$$
Clearly $f$ is positive. Moreover
$$
int_0^1f(x),dx=sum_n=1^infty2^-nint_0^1f_n(x),dxle2 sum_n=1^infty2^-n<infty,
$$
so that $f$ is finite almost everywhere and in $L^1$. We have to check that $fin L^p$ for $p>1$. Since
$$
|f|_plesum_n=1^infty2^-n|f_n|_p,
$$
it is enough to show that $|f_n|_ple C_p$ for some constant $C_p$ depending only on $p$. The function $|x-a|^1/(2p)bigl|,log |x-a|bigr|$ is continuous, and in particular bounded, as a function of $(x,a)$ on $[0,1]times[0,1]$. It follows that there exists a constant $C_p$ such that
$$
bigl|,log |x-a|^pbigr|lefracC_psqrt,quad0le xle1,quad0le ale1,
$$
and the claim follows.
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
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Let
$$mathbbQcap [0,1]=leftx_nright_nin mathbbN $$
and
$$f_n(x)=-log|x-x_n| $$
so that $f_ngeq0$, $f_nin L^p(0,1)$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and
$$|f_n|_p^p=int_0^1|f_n|^p=int_0^1|log|x-x_n||^pdx leqint_-1^1|log |x||^pdx=:C<infty$$
Let
$$f=sum_nin mathbbNfrac12^nf_n $$
then by Minkowski's inequality and Minkowski's inequality for $pin (0,1)$, we have
$$|f|_pleq maxleft2^frac1p-1;1rightsum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n|f_n|_pleq max left2^frac1p-1;1rightC^1/psum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n<infty $$
Hence $fin L^p$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and for any interval $Isubset [0,1]$, there is $nin mathbbN$ such that $x_nin I$, and so $$operatornameess,supfgeq operatornameess,supf_n=+infty$$
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How about
$$
f(x)=|log x|?
$$
The above is a wrong answer, since it does not fulfill 3. So let's try again.
If $0<a<1$, then
$$
int_0^1|log |x-a||,dx=1 - (1 - a) log(1 - a)- a log a<2.
$$
Order the rationals in $[0,1]$ in a sequence $a_n$, let $f_n(x)=bigl|,log |x-a_n|,bigr|$ and
$$
f(x)=sum_n=1^infty2^-nf_n(x) .
$$
Clearly $f$ is positive. Moreover
$$
int_0^1f(x),dx=sum_n=1^infty2^-nint_0^1f_n(x),dxle2 sum_n=1^infty2^-n<infty,
$$
so that $f$ is finite almost everywhere and in $L^1$. We have to check that $fin L^p$ for $p>1$. Since
$$
|f|_plesum_n=1^infty2^-n|f_n|_p,
$$
it is enough to show that $|f_n|_ple C_p$ for some constant $C_p$ depending only on $p$. The function $|x-a|^1/(2p)bigl|,log |x-a|bigr|$ is continuous, and in particular bounded, as a function of $(x,a)$ on $[0,1]times[0,1]$. It follows that there exists a constant $C_p$ such that
$$
bigl|,log |x-a|^pbigr|lefracC_psqrt,quad0le xle1,quad0le ale1,
$$
and the claim follows.
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
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up vote
2
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How about
$$
f(x)=|log x|?
$$
The above is a wrong answer, since it does not fulfill 3. So let's try again.
If $0<a<1$, then
$$
int_0^1|log |x-a||,dx=1 - (1 - a) log(1 - a)- a log a<2.
$$
Order the rationals in $[0,1]$ in a sequence $a_n$, let $f_n(x)=bigl|,log |x-a_n|,bigr|$ and
$$
f(x)=sum_n=1^infty2^-nf_n(x) .
$$
Clearly $f$ is positive. Moreover
$$
int_0^1f(x),dx=sum_n=1^infty2^-nint_0^1f_n(x),dxle2 sum_n=1^infty2^-n<infty,
$$
so that $f$ is finite almost everywhere and in $L^1$. We have to check that $fin L^p$ for $p>1$. Since
$$
|f|_plesum_n=1^infty2^-n|f_n|_p,
$$
it is enough to show that $|f_n|_ple C_p$ for some constant $C_p$ depending only on $p$. The function $|x-a|^1/(2p)bigl|,log |x-a|bigr|$ is continuous, and in particular bounded, as a function of $(x,a)$ on $[0,1]times[0,1]$. It follows that there exists a constant $C_p$ such that
$$
bigl|,log |x-a|^pbigr|lefracC_psqrt,quad0le xle1,quad0le ale1,
$$
and the claim follows.
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
 |Â
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up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
How about
$$
f(x)=|log x|?
$$
The above is a wrong answer, since it does not fulfill 3. So let's try again.
If $0<a<1$, then
$$
int_0^1|log |x-a||,dx=1 - (1 - a) log(1 - a)- a log a<2.
$$
Order the rationals in $[0,1]$ in a sequence $a_n$, let $f_n(x)=bigl|,log |x-a_n|,bigr|$ and
$$
f(x)=sum_n=1^infty2^-nf_n(x) .
$$
Clearly $f$ is positive. Moreover
$$
int_0^1f(x),dx=sum_n=1^infty2^-nint_0^1f_n(x),dxle2 sum_n=1^infty2^-n<infty,
$$
so that $f$ is finite almost everywhere and in $L^1$. We have to check that $fin L^p$ for $p>1$. Since
$$
|f|_plesum_n=1^infty2^-n|f_n|_p,
$$
it is enough to show that $|f_n|_ple C_p$ for some constant $C_p$ depending only on $p$. The function $|x-a|^1/(2p)bigl|,log |x-a|bigr|$ is continuous, and in particular bounded, as a function of $(x,a)$ on $[0,1]times[0,1]$. It follows that there exists a constant $C_p$ such that
$$
bigl|,log |x-a|^pbigr|lefracC_psqrt,quad0le xle1,quad0le ale1,
$$
and the claim follows.
How about
$$
f(x)=|log x|?
$$
The above is a wrong answer, since it does not fulfill 3. So let's try again.
If $0<a<1$, then
$$
int_0^1|log |x-a||,dx=1 - (1 - a) log(1 - a)- a log a<2.
$$
Order the rationals in $[0,1]$ in a sequence $a_n$, let $f_n(x)=bigl|,log |x-a_n|,bigr|$ and
$$
f(x)=sum_n=1^infty2^-nf_n(x) .
$$
Clearly $f$ is positive. Moreover
$$
int_0^1f(x),dx=sum_n=1^infty2^-nint_0^1f_n(x),dxle2 sum_n=1^infty2^-n<infty,
$$
so that $f$ is finite almost everywhere and in $L^1$. We have to check that $fin L^p$ for $p>1$. Since
$$
|f|_plesum_n=1^infty2^-n|f_n|_p,
$$
it is enough to show that $|f_n|_ple C_p$ for some constant $C_p$ depending only on $p$. The function $|x-a|^1/(2p)bigl|,log |x-a|bigr|$ is continuous, and in particular bounded, as a function of $(x,a)$ on $[0,1]times[0,1]$. It follows that there exists a constant $C_p$ such that
$$
bigl|,log |x-a|^pbigr|lefracC_psqrt,quad0le xle1,quad0le ale1,
$$
and the claim follows.
edited Aug 29 at 12:03
answered Aug 29 at 10:54
Julián Aguirre
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Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
 |Â
show 2 more comments
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
Oops. Did not read the "any interval" part.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 11:20
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
I see that both our answers could be wrong, because we need $fin L^p$ for all $p>0$ and to prove $fin L^p$ we use Minkowski's inequality which only works when $pgeq 1$.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:09
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
Never mind, I see that the Minkowski inequality still holds for $pin (0,1)$ as long as we multiply by a coefficient depending only on $p$, so this exampe still works.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 12:26
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@LorenzoQuarisa Since $[0,1]$ has finite measure, $L^qsubset L^p$ if $qle p$.
â Julián Aguirre
Aug 29 at 13:45
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
@JuliánAguirre Oh, that is true also. Thanks.
â Lorenzo Quarisa
Aug 29 at 13:54
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Let
$$mathbbQcap [0,1]=leftx_nright_nin mathbbN $$
and
$$f_n(x)=-log|x-x_n| $$
so that $f_ngeq0$, $f_nin L^p(0,1)$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and
$$|f_n|_p^p=int_0^1|f_n|^p=int_0^1|log|x-x_n||^pdx leqint_-1^1|log |x||^pdx=:C<infty$$
Let
$$f=sum_nin mathbbNfrac12^nf_n $$
then by Minkowski's inequality and Minkowski's inequality for $pin (0,1)$, we have
$$|f|_pleq maxleft2^frac1p-1;1rightsum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n|f_n|_pleq max left2^frac1p-1;1rightC^1/psum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n<infty $$
Hence $fin L^p$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and for any interval $Isubset [0,1]$, there is $nin mathbbN$ such that $x_nin I$, and so $$operatornameess,supfgeq operatornameess,supf_n=+infty$$
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Let
$$mathbbQcap [0,1]=leftx_nright_nin mathbbN $$
and
$$f_n(x)=-log|x-x_n| $$
so that $f_ngeq0$, $f_nin L^p(0,1)$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and
$$|f_n|_p^p=int_0^1|f_n|^p=int_0^1|log|x-x_n||^pdx leqint_-1^1|log |x||^pdx=:C<infty$$
Let
$$f=sum_nin mathbbNfrac12^nf_n $$
then by Minkowski's inequality and Minkowski's inequality for $pin (0,1)$, we have
$$|f|_pleq maxleft2^frac1p-1;1rightsum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n|f_n|_pleq max left2^frac1p-1;1rightC^1/psum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n<infty $$
Hence $fin L^p$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and for any interval $Isubset [0,1]$, there is $nin mathbbN$ such that $x_nin I$, and so $$operatornameess,supfgeq operatornameess,supf_n=+infty$$
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Let
$$mathbbQcap [0,1]=leftx_nright_nin mathbbN $$
and
$$f_n(x)=-log|x-x_n| $$
so that $f_ngeq0$, $f_nin L^p(0,1)$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and
$$|f_n|_p^p=int_0^1|f_n|^p=int_0^1|log|x-x_n||^pdx leqint_-1^1|log |x||^pdx=:C<infty$$
Let
$$f=sum_nin mathbbNfrac12^nf_n $$
then by Minkowski's inequality and Minkowski's inequality for $pin (0,1)$, we have
$$|f|_pleq maxleft2^frac1p-1;1rightsum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n|f_n|_pleq max left2^frac1p-1;1rightC^1/psum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n<infty $$
Hence $fin L^p$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and for any interval $Isubset [0,1]$, there is $nin mathbbN$ such that $x_nin I$, and so $$operatornameess,supfgeq operatornameess,supf_n=+infty$$
Let
$$mathbbQcap [0,1]=leftx_nright_nin mathbbN $$
and
$$f_n(x)=-log|x-x_n| $$
so that $f_ngeq0$, $f_nin L^p(0,1)$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and
$$|f_n|_p^p=int_0^1|f_n|^p=int_0^1|log|x-x_n||^pdx leqint_-1^1|log |x||^pdx=:C<infty$$
Let
$$f=sum_nin mathbbNfrac12^nf_n $$
then by Minkowski's inequality and Minkowski's inequality for $pin (0,1)$, we have
$$|f|_pleq maxleft2^frac1p-1;1rightsum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n|f_n|_pleq max left2^frac1p-1;1rightC^1/psum_nin mathbbNfrac12^n<infty $$
Hence $fin L^p$ for all $pin (0,infty)$, and for any interval $Isubset [0,1]$, there is $nin mathbbN$ such that $x_nin I$, and so $$operatornameess,supfgeq operatornameess,supf_n=+infty$$
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