Generic expression for the (i,j) element of matrix ABC

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It is given that A is a matrix with dimensions m x n, and C is a matrix with dimensions r x s.



In order for the product ABC to be defined, I assumed that matrix B has dimensions n x r.



I am now asked to write an expression for the (i,j) element of ABC in terms of only the elements of matrices A, B, and C. I don't know how to begin. It's not easy for me to wrap my head around the fact that the matrices have unknown dimensions respresented by variables. If they were defined, I could deduce an expression based off of matrix multiplication rules. Any tips on how to proceed?







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  • Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
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  • The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
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It is given that A is a matrix with dimensions m x n, and C is a matrix with dimensions r x s.



In order for the product ABC to be defined, I assumed that matrix B has dimensions n x r.



I am now asked to write an expression for the (i,j) element of ABC in terms of only the elements of matrices A, B, and C. I don't know how to begin. It's not easy for me to wrap my head around the fact that the matrices have unknown dimensions respresented by variables. If they were defined, I could deduce an expression based off of matrix multiplication rules. Any tips on how to proceed?







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  • Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
    – Ð°ÑÑ‚он вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 29 at 6:38










  • The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 29 at 6:47













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It is given that A is a matrix with dimensions m x n, and C is a matrix with dimensions r x s.



In order for the product ABC to be defined, I assumed that matrix B has dimensions n x r.



I am now asked to write an expression for the (i,j) element of ABC in terms of only the elements of matrices A, B, and C. I don't know how to begin. It's not easy for me to wrap my head around the fact that the matrices have unknown dimensions respresented by variables. If they were defined, I could deduce an expression based off of matrix multiplication rules. Any tips on how to proceed?







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It is given that A is a matrix with dimensions m x n, and C is a matrix with dimensions r x s.



In order for the product ABC to be defined, I assumed that matrix B has dimensions n x r.



I am now asked to write an expression for the (i,j) element of ABC in terms of only the elements of matrices A, B, and C. I don't know how to begin. It's not easy for me to wrap my head around the fact that the matrices have unknown dimensions respresented by variables. If they were defined, I could deduce an expression based off of matrix multiplication rules. Any tips on how to proceed?









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  • Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
    – Ð°ÑÑ‚он вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 29 at 6:38










  • The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 29 at 6:47

















  • Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
    – Ð°ÑÑ‚он вілла олоф мэллбэрг
    Aug 29 at 6:38










  • The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 29 at 6:47
















Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
– Ð°ÑÑ‚он вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Aug 29 at 6:38




Write $ABC = (AB) times C$. Now, express the $(i,j)th$ entry of $ABC$ in terms of the entries of $AB$ and the entries of $C$. Finally,write out the $AB$ entries in terms of the entries of $A$ and $B$, using another variable, to get the general expression. This is nothing but iterated use of the formula for two matrices.
– Ð°ÑÑ‚он вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Aug 29 at 6:38












The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Aug 29 at 6:47





The $(i,j)$-entry of $AB$ is $sum_k=1^n a_ikb_kj$. Now, you need something like that for $ABC$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
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Let $A$ be a $m$-by-$n$ matrix, $B$ a $n$-by-$p$ matrix, and $C$ a $p$-by-$r$ matrix. I'm sure that you're aware that the entry in the $j$th row and $k$th column of $AB$ is given by
$$(AB)_j,k = sum_r=1^n A_j,r B_r,k.$$
Notice this is the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $A$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $B$. To represent the $(j,k)$th entry of $(AB)C$, we do so by taking the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $AB$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $C$. The main difference is that our sum is no longer to $n$, but rather to $p$ (can you tell why)?



We then have the following (in a spoiler):




$$((AB)C)_j,k = sum_r=1^p (AB)_j,rC_r,k = sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k. $$




Also, as a quick extra tidbit, technically it's improper to call it quits after the above work. How do you know for instance that $(AB)C=ABC$? What if $A(BC) neq (AB)C$? Which one then would denote $ABC$?



Lucky for us, they're the same! Of course that takes a proof. Can you see how to rearrange the above sum to also show that $(AB)C=A(BC)$? (That is, matrix multiplication is associative!) Here is that in a spoiler:




beginalign* sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k &= sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^n A_j,s left( sum_r=1^p B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^nA_j,s (BC)_s,k\ & = (A(BC))_j,k. endalign*







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    Let $A$ be a $m$-by-$n$ matrix, $B$ a $n$-by-$p$ matrix, and $C$ a $p$-by-$r$ matrix. I'm sure that you're aware that the entry in the $j$th row and $k$th column of $AB$ is given by
    $$(AB)_j,k = sum_r=1^n A_j,r B_r,k.$$
    Notice this is the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $A$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $B$. To represent the $(j,k)$th entry of $(AB)C$, we do so by taking the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $AB$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $C$. The main difference is that our sum is no longer to $n$, but rather to $p$ (can you tell why)?



    We then have the following (in a spoiler):




    $$((AB)C)_j,k = sum_r=1^p (AB)_j,rC_r,k = sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k. $$




    Also, as a quick extra tidbit, technically it's improper to call it quits after the above work. How do you know for instance that $(AB)C=ABC$? What if $A(BC) neq (AB)C$? Which one then would denote $ABC$?



    Lucky for us, they're the same! Of course that takes a proof. Can you see how to rearrange the above sum to also show that $(AB)C=A(BC)$? (That is, matrix multiplication is associative!) Here is that in a spoiler:




    beginalign* sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k &= sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^n A_j,s left( sum_r=1^p B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^nA_j,s (BC)_s,k\ & = (A(BC))_j,k. endalign*







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      Let $A$ be a $m$-by-$n$ matrix, $B$ a $n$-by-$p$ matrix, and $C$ a $p$-by-$r$ matrix. I'm sure that you're aware that the entry in the $j$th row and $k$th column of $AB$ is given by
      $$(AB)_j,k = sum_r=1^n A_j,r B_r,k.$$
      Notice this is the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $A$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $B$. To represent the $(j,k)$th entry of $(AB)C$, we do so by taking the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $AB$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $C$. The main difference is that our sum is no longer to $n$, but rather to $p$ (can you tell why)?



      We then have the following (in a spoiler):




      $$((AB)C)_j,k = sum_r=1^p (AB)_j,rC_r,k = sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k. $$




      Also, as a quick extra tidbit, technically it's improper to call it quits after the above work. How do you know for instance that $(AB)C=ABC$? What if $A(BC) neq (AB)C$? Which one then would denote $ABC$?



      Lucky for us, they're the same! Of course that takes a proof. Can you see how to rearrange the above sum to also show that $(AB)C=A(BC)$? (That is, matrix multiplication is associative!) Here is that in a spoiler:




      beginalign* sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k &= sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^n A_j,s left( sum_r=1^p B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^nA_j,s (BC)_s,k\ & = (A(BC))_j,k. endalign*







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        Let $A$ be a $m$-by-$n$ matrix, $B$ a $n$-by-$p$ matrix, and $C$ a $p$-by-$r$ matrix. I'm sure that you're aware that the entry in the $j$th row and $k$th column of $AB$ is given by
        $$(AB)_j,k = sum_r=1^n A_j,r B_r,k.$$
        Notice this is the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $A$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $B$. To represent the $(j,k)$th entry of $(AB)C$, we do so by taking the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $AB$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $C$. The main difference is that our sum is no longer to $n$, but rather to $p$ (can you tell why)?



        We then have the following (in a spoiler):




        $$((AB)C)_j,k = sum_r=1^p (AB)_j,rC_r,k = sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k. $$




        Also, as a quick extra tidbit, technically it's improper to call it quits after the above work. How do you know for instance that $(AB)C=ABC$? What if $A(BC) neq (AB)C$? Which one then would denote $ABC$?



        Lucky for us, they're the same! Of course that takes a proof. Can you see how to rearrange the above sum to also show that $(AB)C=A(BC)$? (That is, matrix multiplication is associative!) Here is that in a spoiler:




        beginalign* sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k &= sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^n A_j,s left( sum_r=1^p B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^nA_j,s (BC)_s,k\ & = (A(BC))_j,k. endalign*







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        Let $A$ be a $m$-by-$n$ matrix, $B$ a $n$-by-$p$ matrix, and $C$ a $p$-by-$r$ matrix. I'm sure that you're aware that the entry in the $j$th row and $k$th column of $AB$ is given by
        $$(AB)_j,k = sum_r=1^n A_j,r B_r,k.$$
        Notice this is the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $A$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $B$. To represent the $(j,k)$th entry of $(AB)C$, we do so by taking the product of the $(j,r)$th entry of $AB$ and $(r,k)$th entry of $C$. The main difference is that our sum is no longer to $n$, but rather to $p$ (can you tell why)?



        We then have the following (in a spoiler):




        $$((AB)C)_j,k = sum_r=1^p (AB)_j,rC_r,k = sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k. $$




        Also, as a quick extra tidbit, technically it's improper to call it quits after the above work. How do you know for instance that $(AB)C=ABC$? What if $A(BC) neq (AB)C$? Which one then would denote $ABC$?



        Lucky for us, they're the same! Of course that takes a proof. Can you see how to rearrange the above sum to also show that $(AB)C=A(BC)$? (That is, matrix multiplication is associative!) Here is that in a spoiler:




        beginalign* sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r right) C_r,k &= sum_r=1^p left( sum_s=1^n A_j,s B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^n A_j,s left( sum_r=1^p B_s,r C_r,k right) \ &= sum_s=1^nA_j,s (BC)_s,k\ & = (A(BC))_j,k. endalign*








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