Show that $z - xy$ is in the ideal $I = langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1 rangle$ in $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$
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This is inspired by an exercise in Eisenbud's text on commutative algebra. In the text, he gives the following alternative characterization of localization: for any commutative ring $R$ with unity and any subset $U$ of $R$ (not necessarily multiplicatively closed as the text defines $R[U^-1] = R[barU^-1]$), there is a natural isomorphism
beginalign
R[U^-1] cong R[x_u_u in U]/langleux_u-1_u in Urangle.
endalign
Applying this to $R = mathbbZ$ and $U = 2,3,6$, this isomorphism becomes
beginalign
mathbbZ[U^-1] cong mathbbZ[x,y,z]/langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle.
endalign
Intuitively, $x = 1/2$, $y = 1/3$, and $z = 1/6$. It seems natural, then, that $z-xy$ should be in the ideal $I = langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle$ of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$. I used Sage to verify this, but I can't think of a way to express $z-xy$ in terms of the generators of $I$ (note carefully, that I'm considering $I$ as an ideal of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$)
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This is inspired by an exercise in Eisenbud's text on commutative algebra. In the text, he gives the following alternative characterization of localization: for any commutative ring $R$ with unity and any subset $U$ of $R$ (not necessarily multiplicatively closed as the text defines $R[U^-1] = R[barU^-1]$), there is a natural isomorphism
beginalign
R[U^-1] cong R[x_u_u in U]/langleux_u-1_u in Urangle.
endalign
Applying this to $R = mathbbZ$ and $U = 2,3,6$, this isomorphism becomes
beginalign
mathbbZ[U^-1] cong mathbbZ[x,y,z]/langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle.
endalign
Intuitively, $x = 1/2$, $y = 1/3$, and $z = 1/6$. It seems natural, then, that $z-xy$ should be in the ideal $I = langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle$ of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$. I used Sage to verify this, but I can't think of a way to express $z-xy$ in terms of the generators of $I$ (note carefully, that I'm considering $I$ as an ideal of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$)
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Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
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This is inspired by an exercise in Eisenbud's text on commutative algebra. In the text, he gives the following alternative characterization of localization: for any commutative ring $R$ with unity and any subset $U$ of $R$ (not necessarily multiplicatively closed as the text defines $R[U^-1] = R[barU^-1]$), there is a natural isomorphism
beginalign
R[U^-1] cong R[x_u_u in U]/langleux_u-1_u in Urangle.
endalign
Applying this to $R = mathbbZ$ and $U = 2,3,6$, this isomorphism becomes
beginalign
mathbbZ[U^-1] cong mathbbZ[x,y,z]/langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle.
endalign
Intuitively, $x = 1/2$, $y = 1/3$, and $z = 1/6$. It seems natural, then, that $z-xy$ should be in the ideal $I = langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle$ of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$. I used Sage to verify this, but I can't think of a way to express $z-xy$ in terms of the generators of $I$ (note carefully, that I'm considering $I$ as an ideal of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$)
abstract-algebra commutative-algebra ideals localization
This is inspired by an exercise in Eisenbud's text on commutative algebra. In the text, he gives the following alternative characterization of localization: for any commutative ring $R$ with unity and any subset $U$ of $R$ (not necessarily multiplicatively closed as the text defines $R[U^-1] = R[barU^-1]$), there is a natural isomorphism
beginalign
R[U^-1] cong R[x_u_u in U]/langleux_u-1_u in Urangle.
endalign
Applying this to $R = mathbbZ$ and $U = 2,3,6$, this isomorphism becomes
beginalign
mathbbZ[U^-1] cong mathbbZ[x,y,z]/langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle.
endalign
Intuitively, $x = 1/2$, $y = 1/3$, and $z = 1/6$. It seems natural, then, that $z-xy$ should be in the ideal $I = langle 2x-1, 3y-1, 6z-1rangle$ of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$. I used Sage to verify this, but I can't think of a way to express $z-xy$ in terms of the generators of $I$ (note carefully, that I'm considering $I$ as an ideal of $mathbbZ[x,y,z]$)
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Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
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Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
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Aug 13 at 6:25
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Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
â Hagen von Eitzen
Aug 13 at 6:25
Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
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beginalign
z-xy&=z-6xyz+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-(2x)(3y)z+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-3(2x-1)yz-3yz+xy(6z-1)\
&=-(3y-1)z-3(2x-1)yz+xy(6z-1)
endalign
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Note that $(6z-1)-2x(3y-1)-(2x-1)=6z-6xy$ is in the ideal
Now using the intuition $z=frac 16$ we multiply by $z$ to find also $6z^2-6xyz$ in the ideal and this is $z(6z-1)-xy(6z-1)+z-xy$
You should be able to work backwards to the expression you need.
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beginalign
z-xy&=z-6xyz+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-(2x)(3y)z+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-3(2x-1)yz-3yz+xy(6z-1)\
&=-(3y-1)z-3(2x-1)yz+xy(6z-1)
endalign
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beginalign
z-xy&=z-6xyz+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-(2x)(3y)z+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-3(2x-1)yz-3yz+xy(6z-1)\
&=-(3y-1)z-3(2x-1)yz+xy(6z-1)
endalign
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beginalign
z-xy&=z-6xyz+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-(2x)(3y)z+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-3(2x-1)yz-3yz+xy(6z-1)\
&=-(3y-1)z-3(2x-1)yz+xy(6z-1)
endalign
beginalign
z-xy&=z-6xyz+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-(2x)(3y)z+xy(6z-1)\
&=z-3(2x-1)yz-3yz+xy(6z-1)\
&=-(3y-1)z-3(2x-1)yz+xy(6z-1)
endalign
answered Aug 13 at 6:09
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Note that $(6z-1)-2x(3y-1)-(2x-1)=6z-6xy$ is in the ideal
Now using the intuition $z=frac 16$ we multiply by $z$ to find also $6z^2-6xyz$ in the ideal and this is $z(6z-1)-xy(6z-1)+z-xy$
You should be able to work backwards to the expression you need.
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Note that $(6z-1)-2x(3y-1)-(2x-1)=6z-6xy$ is in the ideal
Now using the intuition $z=frac 16$ we multiply by $z$ to find also $6z^2-6xyz$ in the ideal and this is $z(6z-1)-xy(6z-1)+z-xy$
You should be able to work backwards to the expression you need.
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Note that $(6z-1)-2x(3y-1)-(2x-1)=6z-6xy$ is in the ideal
Now using the intuition $z=frac 16$ we multiply by $z$ to find also $6z^2-6xyz$ in the ideal and this is $z(6z-1)-xy(6z-1)+z-xy$
You should be able to work backwards to the expression you need.
Note that $(6z-1)-2x(3y-1)-(2x-1)=6z-6xy$ is in the ideal
Now using the intuition $z=frac 16$ we multiply by $z$ to find also $6z^2-6xyz$ in the ideal and this is $z(6z-1)-xy(6z-1)+z-xy$
You should be able to work backwards to the expression you need.
answered Aug 13 at 6:10
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Typo in title, I suppose, because $langle 3z-1,6z-1rangle = langle 1rangle$.
â Hagen von Eitzen
Aug 13 at 6:25