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In cyclic pentagon ABCDE, ∠ABD = 90◦
, BC = CD, and AE is parallel to BC. If AB = 8 and
BD = 6, find $AE^2$
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I can't find anything, I have been angle chasing the problem, but I can't find sufficient information to use cosine law. I can't find the length BE or the angle EBD in terms of the angles BAD and BDA.







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  • Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
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    $OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
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    Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
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In cyclic pentagon ABCDE, ∠ABD = 90◦
, BC = CD, and AE is parallel to BC. If AB = 8 and
BD = 6, find $AE^2$
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I can't find anything, I have been angle chasing the problem, but I can't find sufficient information to use cosine law. I can't find the length BE or the angle EBD in terms of the angles BAD and BDA.







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  • can you made an Image of this problem please?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Aug 13 at 11:18










  • Sorry, I dont think I can make an accurate image for this problem . I might confuse , there was no image given in the questionnaire,
    – SuperMage1
    Aug 13 at 11:20










  • Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 11:53






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    $OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 12:11






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    Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
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In cyclic pentagon ABCDE, ∠ABD = 90◦
, BC = CD, and AE is parallel to BC. If AB = 8 and
BD = 6, find $AE^2$
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I can't find anything, I have been angle chasing the problem, but I can't find sufficient information to use cosine law. I can't find the length BE or the angle EBD in terms of the angles BAD and BDA.







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In cyclic pentagon ABCDE, ∠ABD = 90◦
, BC = CD, and AE is parallel to BC. If AB = 8 and
BD = 6, find $AE^2$
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I can't find anything, I have been angle chasing the problem, but I can't find sufficient information to use cosine law. I can't find the length BE or the angle EBD in terms of the angles BAD and BDA.









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  • can you made an Image of this problem please?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Aug 13 at 11:18










  • Sorry, I dont think I can make an accurate image for this problem . I might confuse , there was no image given in the questionnaire,
    – SuperMage1
    Aug 13 at 11:20










  • Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 11:53






  • 1




    $OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 12:11






  • 1




    Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 12:14
















  • can you made an Image of this problem please?
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Aug 13 at 11:18










  • Sorry, I dont think I can make an accurate image for this problem . I might confuse , there was no image given in the questionnaire,
    – SuperMage1
    Aug 13 at 11:20










  • Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 11:53






  • 1




    $OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 12:11






  • 1




    Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
    – user583185
    Aug 13 at 12:14















can you made an Image of this problem please?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Aug 13 at 11:18




can you made an Image of this problem please?
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Aug 13 at 11:18












Sorry, I dont think I can make an accurate image for this problem . I might confuse , there was no image given in the questionnaire,
– SuperMage1
Aug 13 at 11:20




Sorry, I dont think I can make an accurate image for this problem . I might confuse , there was no image given in the questionnaire,
– SuperMage1
Aug 13 at 11:20












Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
– user583185
Aug 13 at 11:53




Since $angle ABD=90$, then $AD$ is the diameter of the circle. By Pythagoras $AD=10$. Let $O$ be the center of the circle and midpoint of $AD$. Then $OC$ divides $BD$ in half. Apply Pythagoras twice to get that $BC=sqrt10$. Now look at the trapezoid $ABCE$, you can compute its base $AE$ by Pythagoras.
– user583185
Aug 13 at 11:53




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$OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
– user583185
Aug 13 at 12:11




$OC=5$ for being a radius. Suppose $OC$ intersects $BD$ at $F$. Then $OB=5$ for being a radius, and $FB=6/2=3$. Then $OF=4$ by Pythagoras. Therefore $FC=5-4=1$. By Pythagoras in the triangle $CFB$ you get $BC=sqrtFB^2+FC^2=sqrt3^2+1^2=sqrt10$.
– user583185
Aug 13 at 12:11




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Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
– user583185
Aug 13 at 12:14




Two use Pythagoras on $ABCE$ draw the perpendicular $CG$ to $AE$. Then you have one Pythagoras on the triangle $CGE$. Draw the perpendicular $OH$ to $AE$. You get another Pythagoras on $OHE$. You can put as unknowns $AE$ and say the $OH$ to get a system of two equations and two unknowns.
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Since $angle ABD=90^circ$, it follows that $AD$ is a diameter.



Since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we have
$$AD=sqrtAB^2+BD^2=sqrt8^2+6^2=sqrt100=10$$
Let $x=CD,;y=AC,;z=AE$.



Our goal is to find $z^2$.



First, we get $x^2$ . . .



Since $AD$ is a diameter, it follows that triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
$$x=ADsintheta=10sintheta$$
where $theta=angle DAC$.



Since $BC=CD$, it follows that $angle DAB=2theta$, hence, since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we get
beginalign*
&cos 2theta=fracABAD=frac45\[4pt]
implies;&1-2sin^2 theta=frac45\[4pt]
implies;&sin^2 theta=frac110\[4pt]
implies;&100sin^2 theta=10\[4pt]
implies;&(10sintheta)^2=10\[4pt]
implies;&x^2=10\[4pt]
endalign*
Next, we get $y^2$ . . .



Since $AD$ is a diameter, triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
$$y^2=AD^2-CD^2=10^2-x^2=100-10=90$$
Finally, we get $z^2$ . . .



Since $AE,parallelBC$, quadrileral $EACB$ is a cyclic trapezoid, hence $EC=AB=8$, and $EB=AC=y$.



Then by Ptolemy's theorem, we get
beginalign*
&(AE)(BC)+(AB)(EC)=(AC)(EB)\[4pt]
implies;&zx+8^2=y^2\[4pt]
implies;&zx+64=90\[4pt]
implies;&zx=26\[4pt]
implies;&z^2x^2=26^2\[4pt]
implies;&10z^2=676\[4pt]
implies;&z^2=frac3385\[4pt]
endalign*
Therefore $AE^2=largefrac3385$.






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    Since $angle ABD$ is right, this means $triangle ABD$ is an inscribed right triangle with $AD$ as the diameter of the circle $O$. This also means that $angle AED$ is right since it is also an inscribed right triangle.



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    To satisfy $BC=CD$, $OC$ must be a perpendicular bisector of $BD$. Using Pythagorean theorem, we can workout the lengths of the segments:




    With $AD=10$, then $OD=5$. With $HD=3$, we know that $HO=4$, thus $HC=1$, because $OC=OH+HC=5$.



    Therefore, $angle HBC=arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$ and $angle ABC=fracpi2+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$, and since $AC||AE$, then $angle BAE=pi-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$



    We know that $angle BAD=arcsinleft(frac610right)$, thus $angle DAE=fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$




    Since we know that $triangle AED$ is right, therefore we know that $AE$ should be:
    $$cos angle DAE=fracAEADimplies AE=ADcosangle DAE\
    AE=10cosleft(fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)\$$
    Using angle-sum identity for $sin$ and keeping in mind that $cos(arcsin(x))=sqrt1-x^2$, we get that the equation above evaluates to:
    $$
    AE=10cdotsin left(arcsinleft(frac35right)+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)=13 sqrtfrac25$$
    And thus:
    $$bbox[10px, border:2px black solid]therefore AE^2=left(13 sqrtfrac25right)^2=frac3385$$






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    Since $angle ABD$ is a right angle, we know that $AD$ is a diameter of the circle; by Pythagoras we know that the diameter is $10$ and thus the radius is $5$. since $E$ is also on the circle, $AED$ is a right triangle as well.



    Chord $BD$ is $6$ units long and thus $sqrt5^2-3^2=4$ units from the center, which we'll call $O$; since $BC = CD$ we know that $C$ is on the perpendicular bisector of $BD$, and since it's also on the circle, we know it's $5$ units from $O$. We'll place $F$ at the midpoint of $BD$; $BF = DF = 3$, $CF = 1$, and $BC = CD = sqrt10$.



    Let's also draw $BG$ perpendicular to $BC$ and $AE$ (and thus parallel to $DE$). Now, $AGB$ and $BFC$ are similar, so we get $AG = 1cdotfrac8sqrt10 = frac4sqrt105$ and $BG=3cdotfrac8sqrt10=frac12sqrt105$. This last one is important!



    Since $BC$ is a chord, its perpendicular bisector passes through $O$. We'll call the midpoint of $BC$ $H$, and we find that $BHO$ is a right triangle with $BO = 5$ and $BH=fracsqrt102$, so we have $OH=frac3sqrt102$. But $OH$ is parallel to $BG$! Let's extend $OH$ to meet $AE$ at $I$. since $BGIH$ is a parallelogram, $BG = HI$, so we can find $OI$, which tells us the distance of the chord $AE$ from the center. It's $OI = BG - OH = frac12sqrt105 - frac3sqrt102 = frac9sqrt1010$. Now, finally, we can find $AI$ and thus $AE$ and thus $AE^2$: $AI = sqrt5^2-left(frac9sqrt1010right)^2=sqrt25-frac8110=sqrtfrac16910=frac13sqrt1010$, $AE=frac13sqrt105$, $AE^2=frac3385$






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      Since $angle ABD=90^circ$, it follows that $AD$ is a diameter.



      Since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we have
      $$AD=sqrtAB^2+BD^2=sqrt8^2+6^2=sqrt100=10$$
      Let $x=CD,;y=AC,;z=AE$.



      Our goal is to find $z^2$.



      First, we get $x^2$ . . .



      Since $AD$ is a diameter, it follows that triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
      $$x=ADsintheta=10sintheta$$
      where $theta=angle DAC$.



      Since $BC=CD$, it follows that $angle DAB=2theta$, hence, since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we get
      beginalign*
      &cos 2theta=fracABAD=frac45\[4pt]
      implies;&1-2sin^2 theta=frac45\[4pt]
      implies;&sin^2 theta=frac110\[4pt]
      implies;&100sin^2 theta=10\[4pt]
      implies;&(10sintheta)^2=10\[4pt]
      implies;&x^2=10\[4pt]
      endalign*
      Next, we get $y^2$ . . .



      Since $AD$ is a diameter, triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
      $$y^2=AD^2-CD^2=10^2-x^2=100-10=90$$
      Finally, we get $z^2$ . . .



      Since $AE,parallelBC$, quadrileral $EACB$ is a cyclic trapezoid, hence $EC=AB=8$, and $EB=AC=y$.



      Then by Ptolemy's theorem, we get
      beginalign*
      &(AE)(BC)+(AB)(EC)=(AC)(EB)\[4pt]
      implies;&zx+8^2=y^2\[4pt]
      implies;&zx+64=90\[4pt]
      implies;&zx=26\[4pt]
      implies;&z^2x^2=26^2\[4pt]
      implies;&10z^2=676\[4pt]
      implies;&z^2=frac3385\[4pt]
      endalign*
      Therefore $AE^2=largefrac3385$.






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        Since $angle ABD=90^circ$, it follows that $AD$ is a diameter.



        Since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we have
        $$AD=sqrtAB^2+BD^2=sqrt8^2+6^2=sqrt100=10$$
        Let $x=CD,;y=AC,;z=AE$.



        Our goal is to find $z^2$.



        First, we get $x^2$ . . .



        Since $AD$ is a diameter, it follows that triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
        $$x=ADsintheta=10sintheta$$
        where $theta=angle DAC$.



        Since $BC=CD$, it follows that $angle DAB=2theta$, hence, since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we get
        beginalign*
        &cos 2theta=fracABAD=frac45\[4pt]
        implies;&1-2sin^2 theta=frac45\[4pt]
        implies;&sin^2 theta=frac110\[4pt]
        implies;&100sin^2 theta=10\[4pt]
        implies;&(10sintheta)^2=10\[4pt]
        implies;&x^2=10\[4pt]
        endalign*
        Next, we get $y^2$ . . .



        Since $AD$ is a diameter, triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
        $$y^2=AD^2-CD^2=10^2-x^2=100-10=90$$
        Finally, we get $z^2$ . . .



        Since $AE,parallelBC$, quadrileral $EACB$ is a cyclic trapezoid, hence $EC=AB=8$, and $EB=AC=y$.



        Then by Ptolemy's theorem, we get
        beginalign*
        &(AE)(BC)+(AB)(EC)=(AC)(EB)\[4pt]
        implies;&zx+8^2=y^2\[4pt]
        implies;&zx+64=90\[4pt]
        implies;&zx=26\[4pt]
        implies;&z^2x^2=26^2\[4pt]
        implies;&10z^2=676\[4pt]
        implies;&z^2=frac3385\[4pt]
        endalign*
        Therefore $AE^2=largefrac3385$.






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          Since $angle ABD=90^circ$, it follows that $AD$ is a diameter.



          Since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we have
          $$AD=sqrtAB^2+BD^2=sqrt8^2+6^2=sqrt100=10$$
          Let $x=CD,;y=AC,;z=AE$.



          Our goal is to find $z^2$.



          First, we get $x^2$ . . .



          Since $AD$ is a diameter, it follows that triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
          $$x=ADsintheta=10sintheta$$
          where $theta=angle DAC$.



          Since $BC=CD$, it follows that $angle DAB=2theta$, hence, since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we get
          beginalign*
          &cos 2theta=fracABAD=frac45\[4pt]
          implies;&1-2sin^2 theta=frac45\[4pt]
          implies;&sin^2 theta=frac110\[4pt]
          implies;&100sin^2 theta=10\[4pt]
          implies;&(10sintheta)^2=10\[4pt]
          implies;&x^2=10\[4pt]
          endalign*
          Next, we get $y^2$ . . .



          Since $AD$ is a diameter, triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
          $$y^2=AD^2-CD^2=10^2-x^2=100-10=90$$
          Finally, we get $z^2$ . . .



          Since $AE,parallelBC$, quadrileral $EACB$ is a cyclic trapezoid, hence $EC=AB=8$, and $EB=AC=y$.



          Then by Ptolemy's theorem, we get
          beginalign*
          &(AE)(BC)+(AB)(EC)=(AC)(EB)\[4pt]
          implies;&zx+8^2=y^2\[4pt]
          implies;&zx+64=90\[4pt]
          implies;&zx=26\[4pt]
          implies;&z^2x^2=26^2\[4pt]
          implies;&10z^2=676\[4pt]
          implies;&z^2=frac3385\[4pt]
          endalign*
          Therefore $AE^2=largefrac3385$.






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          Since $angle ABD=90^circ$, it follows that $AD$ is a diameter.



          Since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we have
          $$AD=sqrtAB^2+BD^2=sqrt8^2+6^2=sqrt100=10$$
          Let $x=CD,;y=AC,;z=AE$.



          Our goal is to find $z^2$.



          First, we get $x^2$ . . .



          Since $AD$ is a diameter, it follows that triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
          $$x=ADsintheta=10sintheta$$
          where $theta=angle DAC$.



          Since $BC=CD$, it follows that $angle DAB=2theta$, hence, since triangle $ABD$ is a right triangle, we get
          beginalign*
          &cos 2theta=fracABAD=frac45\[4pt]
          implies;&1-2sin^2 theta=frac45\[4pt]
          implies;&sin^2 theta=frac110\[4pt]
          implies;&100sin^2 theta=10\[4pt]
          implies;&(10sintheta)^2=10\[4pt]
          implies;&x^2=10\[4pt]
          endalign*
          Next, we get $y^2$ . . .



          Since $AD$ is a diameter, triangle $ACD$ is a right triangle, hence
          $$y^2=AD^2-CD^2=10^2-x^2=100-10=90$$
          Finally, we get $z^2$ . . .



          Since $AE,parallelBC$, quadrileral $EACB$ is a cyclic trapezoid, hence $EC=AB=8$, and $EB=AC=y$.



          Then by Ptolemy's theorem, we get
          beginalign*
          &(AE)(BC)+(AB)(EC)=(AC)(EB)\[4pt]
          implies;&zx+8^2=y^2\[4pt]
          implies;&zx+64=90\[4pt]
          implies;&zx=26\[4pt]
          implies;&z^2x^2=26^2\[4pt]
          implies;&10z^2=676\[4pt]
          implies;&z^2=frac3385\[4pt]
          endalign*
          Therefore $AE^2=largefrac3385$.







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              Since $angle ABD$ is right, this means $triangle ABD$ is an inscribed right triangle with $AD$ as the diameter of the circle $O$. This also means that $angle AED$ is right since it is also an inscribed right triangle.



              enter image description here




              To satisfy $BC=CD$, $OC$ must be a perpendicular bisector of $BD$. Using Pythagorean theorem, we can workout the lengths of the segments:




              With $AD=10$, then $OD=5$. With $HD=3$, we know that $HO=4$, thus $HC=1$, because $OC=OH+HC=5$.



              Therefore, $angle HBC=arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$ and $angle ABC=fracpi2+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$, and since $AC||AE$, then $angle BAE=pi-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$



              We know that $angle BAD=arcsinleft(frac610right)$, thus $angle DAE=fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$




              Since we know that $triangle AED$ is right, therefore we know that $AE$ should be:
              $$cos angle DAE=fracAEADimplies AE=ADcosangle DAE\
              AE=10cosleft(fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)\$$
              Using angle-sum identity for $sin$ and keeping in mind that $cos(arcsin(x))=sqrt1-x^2$, we get that the equation above evaluates to:
              $$
              AE=10cdotsin left(arcsinleft(frac35right)+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)=13 sqrtfrac25$$
              And thus:
              $$bbox[10px, border:2px black solid]therefore AE^2=left(13 sqrtfrac25right)^2=frac3385$$






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              • $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
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              • Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
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              Since $angle ABD$ is right, this means $triangle ABD$ is an inscribed right triangle with $AD$ as the diameter of the circle $O$. This also means that $angle AED$ is right since it is also an inscribed right triangle.



              enter image description here




              To satisfy $BC=CD$, $OC$ must be a perpendicular bisector of $BD$. Using Pythagorean theorem, we can workout the lengths of the segments:




              With $AD=10$, then $OD=5$. With $HD=3$, we know that $HO=4$, thus $HC=1$, because $OC=OH+HC=5$.



              Therefore, $angle HBC=arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$ and $angle ABC=fracpi2+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$, and since $AC||AE$, then $angle BAE=pi-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$



              We know that $angle BAD=arcsinleft(frac610right)$, thus $angle DAE=fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$




              Since we know that $triangle AED$ is right, therefore we know that $AE$ should be:
              $$cos angle DAE=fracAEADimplies AE=ADcosangle DAE\
              AE=10cosleft(fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)\$$
              Using angle-sum identity for $sin$ and keeping in mind that $cos(arcsin(x))=sqrt1-x^2$, we get that the equation above evaluates to:
              $$
              AE=10cdotsin left(arcsinleft(frac35right)+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)=13 sqrtfrac25$$
              And thus:
              $$bbox[10px, border:2px black solid]therefore AE^2=left(13 sqrtfrac25right)^2=frac3385$$






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              • $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Aug 15 at 0:58










              • Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
                – John Glenn
                Aug 15 at 1:00












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              Since $angle ABD$ is right, this means $triangle ABD$ is an inscribed right triangle with $AD$ as the diameter of the circle $O$. This also means that $angle AED$ is right since it is also an inscribed right triangle.



              enter image description here




              To satisfy $BC=CD$, $OC$ must be a perpendicular bisector of $BD$. Using Pythagorean theorem, we can workout the lengths of the segments:




              With $AD=10$, then $OD=5$. With $HD=3$, we know that $HO=4$, thus $HC=1$, because $OC=OH+HC=5$.



              Therefore, $angle HBC=arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$ and $angle ABC=fracpi2+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$, and since $AC||AE$, then $angle BAE=pi-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$



              We know that $angle BAD=arcsinleft(frac610right)$, thus $angle DAE=fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$




              Since we know that $triangle AED$ is right, therefore we know that $AE$ should be:
              $$cos angle DAE=fracAEADimplies AE=ADcosangle DAE\
              AE=10cosleft(fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)\$$
              Using angle-sum identity for $sin$ and keeping in mind that $cos(arcsin(x))=sqrt1-x^2$, we get that the equation above evaluates to:
              $$
              AE=10cdotsin left(arcsinleft(frac35right)+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)=13 sqrtfrac25$$
              And thus:
              $$bbox[10px, border:2px black solid]therefore AE^2=left(13 sqrtfrac25right)^2=frac3385$$






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              Since $angle ABD$ is right, this means $triangle ABD$ is an inscribed right triangle with $AD$ as the diameter of the circle $O$. This also means that $angle AED$ is right since it is also an inscribed right triangle.



              enter image description here




              To satisfy $BC=CD$, $OC$ must be a perpendicular bisector of $BD$. Using Pythagorean theorem, we can workout the lengths of the segments:




              With $AD=10$, then $OD=5$. With $HD=3$, we know that $HO=4$, thus $HC=1$, because $OC=OH+HC=5$.



              Therefore, $angle HBC=arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$ and $angle ABC=fracpi2+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$, and since $AC||AE$, then $angle BAE=pi-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$



              We know that $angle BAD=arcsinleft(frac610right)$, thus $angle DAE=fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)$




              Since we know that $triangle AED$ is right, therefore we know that $AE$ should be:
              $$cos angle DAE=fracAEADimplies AE=ADcosangle DAE\
              AE=10cosleft(fracpi 2-arcsinleft(frac35right)-arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)\$$
              Using angle-sum identity for $sin$ and keeping in mind that $cos(arcsin(x))=sqrt1-x^2$, we get that the equation above evaluates to:
              $$
              AE=10cdotsin left(arcsinleft(frac35right)+arcsinleft(frac1sqrt10right)right)=13 sqrtfrac25$$
              And thus:
              $$bbox[10px, border:2px black solid]therefore AE^2=left(13 sqrtfrac25right)^2=frac3385$$







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              • $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Aug 15 at 0:58










              • Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
                – John Glenn
                Aug 15 at 1:00
















              • $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Aug 15 at 0:58










              • Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
                – John Glenn
                Aug 15 at 1:00















              $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Aug 15 at 0:58




              $13^2×2ne 388$, was $338$ meant?
              – Oscar Lanzi
              Aug 15 at 0:58












              Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
              – John Glenn
              Aug 15 at 1:00




              Yes, thank you @Oscar Lanzi
              – John Glenn
              Aug 15 at 1:00










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              Since $angle ABD$ is a right angle, we know that $AD$ is a diameter of the circle; by Pythagoras we know that the diameter is $10$ and thus the radius is $5$. since $E$ is also on the circle, $AED$ is a right triangle as well.



              Chord $BD$ is $6$ units long and thus $sqrt5^2-3^2=4$ units from the center, which we'll call $O$; since $BC = CD$ we know that $C$ is on the perpendicular bisector of $BD$, and since it's also on the circle, we know it's $5$ units from $O$. We'll place $F$ at the midpoint of $BD$; $BF = DF = 3$, $CF = 1$, and $BC = CD = sqrt10$.



              Let's also draw $BG$ perpendicular to $BC$ and $AE$ (and thus parallel to $DE$). Now, $AGB$ and $BFC$ are similar, so we get $AG = 1cdotfrac8sqrt10 = frac4sqrt105$ and $BG=3cdotfrac8sqrt10=frac12sqrt105$. This last one is important!



              Since $BC$ is a chord, its perpendicular bisector passes through $O$. We'll call the midpoint of $BC$ $H$, and we find that $BHO$ is a right triangle with $BO = 5$ and $BH=fracsqrt102$, so we have $OH=frac3sqrt102$. But $OH$ is parallel to $BG$! Let's extend $OH$ to meet $AE$ at $I$. since $BGIH$ is a parallelogram, $BG = HI$, so we can find $OI$, which tells us the distance of the chord $AE$ from the center. It's $OI = BG - OH = frac12sqrt105 - frac3sqrt102 = frac9sqrt1010$. Now, finally, we can find $AI$ and thus $AE$ and thus $AE^2$: $AI = sqrt5^2-left(frac9sqrt1010right)^2=sqrt25-frac8110=sqrtfrac16910=frac13sqrt1010$, $AE=frac13sqrt105$, $AE^2=frac3385$






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                Since $angle ABD$ is a right angle, we know that $AD$ is a diameter of the circle; by Pythagoras we know that the diameter is $10$ and thus the radius is $5$. since $E$ is also on the circle, $AED$ is a right triangle as well.



                Chord $BD$ is $6$ units long and thus $sqrt5^2-3^2=4$ units from the center, which we'll call $O$; since $BC = CD$ we know that $C$ is on the perpendicular bisector of $BD$, and since it's also on the circle, we know it's $5$ units from $O$. We'll place $F$ at the midpoint of $BD$; $BF = DF = 3$, $CF = 1$, and $BC = CD = sqrt10$.



                Let's also draw $BG$ perpendicular to $BC$ and $AE$ (and thus parallel to $DE$). Now, $AGB$ and $BFC$ are similar, so we get $AG = 1cdotfrac8sqrt10 = frac4sqrt105$ and $BG=3cdotfrac8sqrt10=frac12sqrt105$. This last one is important!



                Since $BC$ is a chord, its perpendicular bisector passes through $O$. We'll call the midpoint of $BC$ $H$, and we find that $BHO$ is a right triangle with $BO = 5$ and $BH=fracsqrt102$, so we have $OH=frac3sqrt102$. But $OH$ is parallel to $BG$! Let's extend $OH$ to meet $AE$ at $I$. since $BGIH$ is a parallelogram, $BG = HI$, so we can find $OI$, which tells us the distance of the chord $AE$ from the center. It's $OI = BG - OH = frac12sqrt105 - frac3sqrt102 = frac9sqrt1010$. Now, finally, we can find $AI$ and thus $AE$ and thus $AE^2$: $AI = sqrt5^2-left(frac9sqrt1010right)^2=sqrt25-frac8110=sqrtfrac16910=frac13sqrt1010$, $AE=frac13sqrt105$, $AE^2=frac3385$






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                  Since $angle ABD$ is a right angle, we know that $AD$ is a diameter of the circle; by Pythagoras we know that the diameter is $10$ and thus the radius is $5$. since $E$ is also on the circle, $AED$ is a right triangle as well.



                  Chord $BD$ is $6$ units long and thus $sqrt5^2-3^2=4$ units from the center, which we'll call $O$; since $BC = CD$ we know that $C$ is on the perpendicular bisector of $BD$, and since it's also on the circle, we know it's $5$ units from $O$. We'll place $F$ at the midpoint of $BD$; $BF = DF = 3$, $CF = 1$, and $BC = CD = sqrt10$.



                  Let's also draw $BG$ perpendicular to $BC$ and $AE$ (and thus parallel to $DE$). Now, $AGB$ and $BFC$ are similar, so we get $AG = 1cdotfrac8sqrt10 = frac4sqrt105$ and $BG=3cdotfrac8sqrt10=frac12sqrt105$. This last one is important!



                  Since $BC$ is a chord, its perpendicular bisector passes through $O$. We'll call the midpoint of $BC$ $H$, and we find that $BHO$ is a right triangle with $BO = 5$ and $BH=fracsqrt102$, so we have $OH=frac3sqrt102$. But $OH$ is parallel to $BG$! Let's extend $OH$ to meet $AE$ at $I$. since $BGIH$ is a parallelogram, $BG = HI$, so we can find $OI$, which tells us the distance of the chord $AE$ from the center. It's $OI = BG - OH = frac12sqrt105 - frac3sqrt102 = frac9sqrt1010$. Now, finally, we can find $AI$ and thus $AE$ and thus $AE^2$: $AI = sqrt5^2-left(frac9sqrt1010right)^2=sqrt25-frac8110=sqrtfrac16910=frac13sqrt1010$, $AE=frac13sqrt105$, $AE^2=frac3385$






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                  enter image description here



                  Since $angle ABD$ is a right angle, we know that $AD$ is a diameter of the circle; by Pythagoras we know that the diameter is $10$ and thus the radius is $5$. since $E$ is also on the circle, $AED$ is a right triangle as well.



                  Chord $BD$ is $6$ units long and thus $sqrt5^2-3^2=4$ units from the center, which we'll call $O$; since $BC = CD$ we know that $C$ is on the perpendicular bisector of $BD$, and since it's also on the circle, we know it's $5$ units from $O$. We'll place $F$ at the midpoint of $BD$; $BF = DF = 3$, $CF = 1$, and $BC = CD = sqrt10$.



                  Let's also draw $BG$ perpendicular to $BC$ and $AE$ (and thus parallel to $DE$). Now, $AGB$ and $BFC$ are similar, so we get $AG = 1cdotfrac8sqrt10 = frac4sqrt105$ and $BG=3cdotfrac8sqrt10=frac12sqrt105$. This last one is important!



                  Since $BC$ is a chord, its perpendicular bisector passes through $O$. We'll call the midpoint of $BC$ $H$, and we find that $BHO$ is a right triangle with $BO = 5$ and $BH=fracsqrt102$, so we have $OH=frac3sqrt102$. But $OH$ is parallel to $BG$! Let's extend $OH$ to meet $AE$ at $I$. since $BGIH$ is a parallelogram, $BG = HI$, so we can find $OI$, which tells us the distance of the chord $AE$ from the center. It's $OI = BG - OH = frac12sqrt105 - frac3sqrt102 = frac9sqrt1010$. Now, finally, we can find $AI$ and thus $AE$ and thus $AE^2$: $AI = sqrt5^2-left(frac9sqrt1010right)^2=sqrt25-frac8110=sqrtfrac16910=frac13sqrt1010$, $AE=frac13sqrt105$, $AE^2=frac3385$







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