Does the Identity Map on $S^2$ Extend?

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We form $X$ by attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $2$ map, and form $Y$ be attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $4$ map. I am trying to find out whether the identity $S^2 to S^2$ extends to a map $Y to X$. I have already showed that it doesn't extend to a map $X to Y$ because the induced map $mathbbZ cong H_2(S^2) to H_2(Y) cong mathbbZ/4$ sends $2$ to $2$, but if it factored as $H_2(S^2) to H_2(X) to H_2(Y)$, it would have to send $2$ to $0$ because $H_2(X) cong mathbbZ/2$. No such obstruction exists when considering $Y to X$.



I feel such a map couldn't exist since you can't "unravel" $Y$ to only a double twist. But, I can't find an obstruction. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.







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  • What about co-homology??
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  • @AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
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We form $X$ by attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $2$ map, and form $Y$ be attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $4$ map. I am trying to find out whether the identity $S^2 to S^2$ extends to a map $Y to X$. I have already showed that it doesn't extend to a map $X to Y$ because the induced map $mathbbZ cong H_2(S^2) to H_2(Y) cong mathbbZ/4$ sends $2$ to $2$, but if it factored as $H_2(S^2) to H_2(X) to H_2(Y)$, it would have to send $2$ to $0$ because $H_2(X) cong mathbbZ/2$. No such obstruction exists when considering $Y to X$.



I feel such a map couldn't exist since you can't "unravel" $Y$ to only a double twist. But, I can't find an obstruction. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.







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  • What about co-homology??
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
    Aug 9 at 16:55










  • @AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
    – Joe Johnson 126
    Aug 9 at 22:13










  • You should mention that while posting the question, so that we can understand :)
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
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We form $X$ by attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $2$ map, and form $Y$ be attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $4$ map. I am trying to find out whether the identity $S^2 to S^2$ extends to a map $Y to X$. I have already showed that it doesn't extend to a map $X to Y$ because the induced map $mathbbZ cong H_2(S^2) to H_2(Y) cong mathbbZ/4$ sends $2$ to $2$, but if it factored as $H_2(S^2) to H_2(X) to H_2(Y)$, it would have to send $2$ to $0$ because $H_2(X) cong mathbbZ/2$. No such obstruction exists when considering $Y to X$.



I feel such a map couldn't exist since you can't "unravel" $Y$ to only a double twist. But, I can't find an obstruction. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.







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We form $X$ by attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $2$ map, and form $Y$ be attaching a $3$-cell to $S^2$ by a degree $4$ map. I am trying to find out whether the identity $S^2 to S^2$ extends to a map $Y to X$. I have already showed that it doesn't extend to a map $X to Y$ because the induced map $mathbbZ cong H_2(S^2) to H_2(Y) cong mathbbZ/4$ sends $2$ to $2$, but if it factored as $H_2(S^2) to H_2(X) to H_2(Y)$, it would have to send $2$ to $0$ because $H_2(X) cong mathbbZ/2$. No such obstruction exists when considering $Y to X$.



I feel such a map couldn't exist since you can't "unravel" $Y$ to only a double twist. But, I can't find an obstruction. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.









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  • What about co-homology??
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
    Aug 9 at 16:55










  • @AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
    – Joe Johnson 126
    Aug 9 at 22:13










  • You should mention that while posting the question, so that we can understand :)
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
    Aug 9 at 22:14
















  • What about co-homology??
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
    Aug 9 at 16:55










  • @AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
    – Joe Johnson 126
    Aug 9 at 22:13










  • You should mention that while posting the question, so that we can understand :)
    – Anubhav Mukherjee
    Aug 9 at 22:14















What about co-homology??
– Anubhav Mukherjee
Aug 9 at 16:55




What about co-homology??
– Anubhav Mukherjee
Aug 9 at 16:55












@AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
– Joe Johnson 126
Aug 9 at 22:13




@AnubhavMukherjee I'm trying to answer the question only using certain material. So, I can use homology, but not cohomology. I can also use covering space theory and fundamental groups.
– Joe Johnson 126
Aug 9 at 22:13












You should mention that while posting the question, so that we can understand :)
– Anubhav Mukherjee
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You should mention that while posting the question, so that we can understand :)
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For each integer $k$ write $k:S^2rightarrow S^2$ for the degree $k$ self-map. Then, since $4simeq 2circ 2$ we have a homotopy commutative diagram



$requireAMScd$
beginCD
S^2@>4>> S^2@>p>>Y\
@V2 V V @VVid_S^2 V@VV theta V\
S^2 @>2>> S^2@>q>>X
endCD



where each row is the cofiber sequence that defines the spaces $X$, $Y$, and $theta:Yrightarrow X$ is the induced map of cofibers. The map $theta$ is clearly what you are looking for.



Let's do this in a bit more detail. First observe that $X$, $Y$ are the topological pushouts in the diagrams
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
S^2@>4>> S^2\
@Vi V V @VVpV\
D^3 @>l>> Y
endCD$requireAMScd$
beginCD
S^2@>2>> S^2\
@Vj V V @VVqV\
D^3 @>k>> X
endCD



where $i=j$ are the boundary inclusions (they are the same map, but we'll assign them different symbols to make clear to which we are referring).



First we note that since the composite $jcirc2:S^2rightarrow S^2rightarrow D^3$ is null-homotopic and $i$ is a cofibration, there exists and extension $underline 2:D^3rightarrow D^3$ such that $underline 2circ i=jcirc 2$. This then gives us a map $kcircunderline 2:D^3rightarrow X$ that satisfies



$$(kcircunderline 2)circ i=kcirc(underline 2circ i)=kcirc (jcirc 2)=(kcirc j)circ 2=(qcirc 2)circ 2=qcirc (2circ 2).$$



Now choose a homotopy $F:2circ 2simeq 4$ so that $qcirc (2circ2)simeq qcirc 4$. Using again the fact that $i$ is a cofibration we get a homotopy $G:D^3times Irightarrow X$ starting at $G_0=kcirc underline 2$ and satisfying $G_tcirc i= qcirc F_t$ for each $tin I$. In particular its end map $G_1:D^3rightarrow X$ now satisfies



$$G_1circ i= qcirc F_1=qcirc 4.$$



It follows using the that $Y$ is the pushout of the maps $i$ and $4$ that there is an induced map $theta:Yrightarrow X$ satisfying



$$thetacirc p=qcirc id_S^2,qquad thetacirc l=G_1simeq kcirc underline 2$$



and the first of these properties is exactly what you are looking for.



It may help you to visualise things if you put the pushout square for $Y$ above the pushout square for $X$ and draw in all the maps we've used.



Finally note that although the identity map of $S^2$ does not extent to a map $Xrightarrow Y$, the degree $2$ map does. You may like to follow the steps we gone through here to write down the map it induces.






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    For each integer $k$ write $k:S^2rightarrow S^2$ for the degree $k$ self-map. Then, since $4simeq 2circ 2$ we have a homotopy commutative diagram



    $requireAMScd$
    beginCD
    S^2@>4>> S^2@>p>>Y\
    @V2 V V @VVid_S^2 V@VV theta V\
    S^2 @>2>> S^2@>q>>X
    endCD



    where each row is the cofiber sequence that defines the spaces $X$, $Y$, and $theta:Yrightarrow X$ is the induced map of cofibers. The map $theta$ is clearly what you are looking for.



    Let's do this in a bit more detail. First observe that $X$, $Y$ are the topological pushouts in the diagrams
    $requireAMScd$
    beginCD
    S^2@>4>> S^2\
    @Vi V V @VVpV\
    D^3 @>l>> Y
    endCD$requireAMScd$
    beginCD
    S^2@>2>> S^2\
    @Vj V V @VVqV\
    D^3 @>k>> X
    endCD



    where $i=j$ are the boundary inclusions (they are the same map, but we'll assign them different symbols to make clear to which we are referring).



    First we note that since the composite $jcirc2:S^2rightarrow S^2rightarrow D^3$ is null-homotopic and $i$ is a cofibration, there exists and extension $underline 2:D^3rightarrow D^3$ such that $underline 2circ i=jcirc 2$. This then gives us a map $kcircunderline 2:D^3rightarrow X$ that satisfies



    $$(kcircunderline 2)circ i=kcirc(underline 2circ i)=kcirc (jcirc 2)=(kcirc j)circ 2=(qcirc 2)circ 2=qcirc (2circ 2).$$



    Now choose a homotopy $F:2circ 2simeq 4$ so that $qcirc (2circ2)simeq qcirc 4$. Using again the fact that $i$ is a cofibration we get a homotopy $G:D^3times Irightarrow X$ starting at $G_0=kcirc underline 2$ and satisfying $G_tcirc i= qcirc F_t$ for each $tin I$. In particular its end map $G_1:D^3rightarrow X$ now satisfies



    $$G_1circ i= qcirc F_1=qcirc 4.$$



    It follows using the that $Y$ is the pushout of the maps $i$ and $4$ that there is an induced map $theta:Yrightarrow X$ satisfying



    $$thetacirc p=qcirc id_S^2,qquad thetacirc l=G_1simeq kcirc underline 2$$



    and the first of these properties is exactly what you are looking for.



    It may help you to visualise things if you put the pushout square for $Y$ above the pushout square for $X$ and draw in all the maps we've used.



    Finally note that although the identity map of $S^2$ does not extent to a map $Xrightarrow Y$, the degree $2$ map does. You may like to follow the steps we gone through here to write down the map it induces.






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      For each integer $k$ write $k:S^2rightarrow S^2$ for the degree $k$ self-map. Then, since $4simeq 2circ 2$ we have a homotopy commutative diagram



      $requireAMScd$
      beginCD
      S^2@>4>> S^2@>p>>Y\
      @V2 V V @VVid_S^2 V@VV theta V\
      S^2 @>2>> S^2@>q>>X
      endCD



      where each row is the cofiber sequence that defines the spaces $X$, $Y$, and $theta:Yrightarrow X$ is the induced map of cofibers. The map $theta$ is clearly what you are looking for.



      Let's do this in a bit more detail. First observe that $X$, $Y$ are the topological pushouts in the diagrams
      $requireAMScd$
      beginCD
      S^2@>4>> S^2\
      @Vi V V @VVpV\
      D^3 @>l>> Y
      endCD$requireAMScd$
      beginCD
      S^2@>2>> S^2\
      @Vj V V @VVqV\
      D^3 @>k>> X
      endCD



      where $i=j$ are the boundary inclusions (they are the same map, but we'll assign them different symbols to make clear to which we are referring).



      First we note that since the composite $jcirc2:S^2rightarrow S^2rightarrow D^3$ is null-homotopic and $i$ is a cofibration, there exists and extension $underline 2:D^3rightarrow D^3$ such that $underline 2circ i=jcirc 2$. This then gives us a map $kcircunderline 2:D^3rightarrow X$ that satisfies



      $$(kcircunderline 2)circ i=kcirc(underline 2circ i)=kcirc (jcirc 2)=(kcirc j)circ 2=(qcirc 2)circ 2=qcirc (2circ 2).$$



      Now choose a homotopy $F:2circ 2simeq 4$ so that $qcirc (2circ2)simeq qcirc 4$. Using again the fact that $i$ is a cofibration we get a homotopy $G:D^3times Irightarrow X$ starting at $G_0=kcirc underline 2$ and satisfying $G_tcirc i= qcirc F_t$ for each $tin I$. In particular its end map $G_1:D^3rightarrow X$ now satisfies



      $$G_1circ i= qcirc F_1=qcirc 4.$$



      It follows using the that $Y$ is the pushout of the maps $i$ and $4$ that there is an induced map $theta:Yrightarrow X$ satisfying



      $$thetacirc p=qcirc id_S^2,qquad thetacirc l=G_1simeq kcirc underline 2$$



      and the first of these properties is exactly what you are looking for.



      It may help you to visualise things if you put the pushout square for $Y$ above the pushout square for $X$ and draw in all the maps we've used.



      Finally note that although the identity map of $S^2$ does not extent to a map $Xrightarrow Y$, the degree $2$ map does. You may like to follow the steps we gone through here to write down the map it induces.






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        For each integer $k$ write $k:S^2rightarrow S^2$ for the degree $k$ self-map. Then, since $4simeq 2circ 2$ we have a homotopy commutative diagram



        $requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>4>> S^2@>p>>Y\
        @V2 V V @VVid_S^2 V@VV theta V\
        S^2 @>2>> S^2@>q>>X
        endCD



        where each row is the cofiber sequence that defines the spaces $X$, $Y$, and $theta:Yrightarrow X$ is the induced map of cofibers. The map $theta$ is clearly what you are looking for.



        Let's do this in a bit more detail. First observe that $X$, $Y$ are the topological pushouts in the diagrams
        $requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>4>> S^2\
        @Vi V V @VVpV\
        D^3 @>l>> Y
        endCD$requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>2>> S^2\
        @Vj V V @VVqV\
        D^3 @>k>> X
        endCD



        where $i=j$ are the boundary inclusions (they are the same map, but we'll assign them different symbols to make clear to which we are referring).



        First we note that since the composite $jcirc2:S^2rightarrow S^2rightarrow D^3$ is null-homotopic and $i$ is a cofibration, there exists and extension $underline 2:D^3rightarrow D^3$ such that $underline 2circ i=jcirc 2$. This then gives us a map $kcircunderline 2:D^3rightarrow X$ that satisfies



        $$(kcircunderline 2)circ i=kcirc(underline 2circ i)=kcirc (jcirc 2)=(kcirc j)circ 2=(qcirc 2)circ 2=qcirc (2circ 2).$$



        Now choose a homotopy $F:2circ 2simeq 4$ so that $qcirc (2circ2)simeq qcirc 4$. Using again the fact that $i$ is a cofibration we get a homotopy $G:D^3times Irightarrow X$ starting at $G_0=kcirc underline 2$ and satisfying $G_tcirc i= qcirc F_t$ for each $tin I$. In particular its end map $G_1:D^3rightarrow X$ now satisfies



        $$G_1circ i= qcirc F_1=qcirc 4.$$



        It follows using the that $Y$ is the pushout of the maps $i$ and $4$ that there is an induced map $theta:Yrightarrow X$ satisfying



        $$thetacirc p=qcirc id_S^2,qquad thetacirc l=G_1simeq kcirc underline 2$$



        and the first of these properties is exactly what you are looking for.



        It may help you to visualise things if you put the pushout square for $Y$ above the pushout square for $X$ and draw in all the maps we've used.



        Finally note that although the identity map of $S^2$ does not extent to a map $Xrightarrow Y$, the degree $2$ map does. You may like to follow the steps we gone through here to write down the map it induces.






        share|cite|improve this answer












        For each integer $k$ write $k:S^2rightarrow S^2$ for the degree $k$ self-map. Then, since $4simeq 2circ 2$ we have a homotopy commutative diagram



        $requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>4>> S^2@>p>>Y\
        @V2 V V @VVid_S^2 V@VV theta V\
        S^2 @>2>> S^2@>q>>X
        endCD



        where each row is the cofiber sequence that defines the spaces $X$, $Y$, and $theta:Yrightarrow X$ is the induced map of cofibers. The map $theta$ is clearly what you are looking for.



        Let's do this in a bit more detail. First observe that $X$, $Y$ are the topological pushouts in the diagrams
        $requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>4>> S^2\
        @Vi V V @VVpV\
        D^3 @>l>> Y
        endCD$requireAMScd$
        beginCD
        S^2@>2>> S^2\
        @Vj V V @VVqV\
        D^3 @>k>> X
        endCD



        where $i=j$ are the boundary inclusions (they are the same map, but we'll assign them different symbols to make clear to which we are referring).



        First we note that since the composite $jcirc2:S^2rightarrow S^2rightarrow D^3$ is null-homotopic and $i$ is a cofibration, there exists and extension $underline 2:D^3rightarrow D^3$ such that $underline 2circ i=jcirc 2$. This then gives us a map $kcircunderline 2:D^3rightarrow X$ that satisfies



        $$(kcircunderline 2)circ i=kcirc(underline 2circ i)=kcirc (jcirc 2)=(kcirc j)circ 2=(qcirc 2)circ 2=qcirc (2circ 2).$$



        Now choose a homotopy $F:2circ 2simeq 4$ so that $qcirc (2circ2)simeq qcirc 4$. Using again the fact that $i$ is a cofibration we get a homotopy $G:D^3times Irightarrow X$ starting at $G_0=kcirc underline 2$ and satisfying $G_tcirc i= qcirc F_t$ for each $tin I$. In particular its end map $G_1:D^3rightarrow X$ now satisfies



        $$G_1circ i= qcirc F_1=qcirc 4.$$



        It follows using the that $Y$ is the pushout of the maps $i$ and $4$ that there is an induced map $theta:Yrightarrow X$ satisfying



        $$thetacirc p=qcirc id_S^2,qquad thetacirc l=G_1simeq kcirc underline 2$$



        and the first of these properties is exactly what you are looking for.



        It may help you to visualise things if you put the pushout square for $Y$ above the pushout square for $X$ and draw in all the maps we've used.



        Finally note that although the identity map of $S^2$ does not extent to a map $Xrightarrow Y$, the degree $2$ map does. You may like to follow the steps we gone through here to write down the map it induces.







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