Finding components of lines intersecting at a point.

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I'm just working on some summer problems so that I can be more prepared when I go into my class in the fall. I found a website full of problems of the content we will be learning but it doesn't have the answers. I need a little guidance on how to do this problem. Here is the problem:



Consider the lines $L1$ and $L2$ with equations:



$L_1 : r = (11, 8, 2) + s(4, 3, -1)$

$L_2 : r = (1, 1,-7) + t(2, 1, 11)$

The lines intersect at point $P$.



a. Find the coordinates of $P$.

Would we use a formula for this? For example: $fracx_1+x_22, fracy_1+y_22, fracz_1+z_22$.



b. Show that the lines are perpendicular.

Isn’t there also a formula to find if lines are perpendicular?







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  • Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 20:55











  • @mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 20:58










  • Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:00











  • @mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 21:01










  • I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:06














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I'm just working on some summer problems so that I can be more prepared when I go into my class in the fall. I found a website full of problems of the content we will be learning but it doesn't have the answers. I need a little guidance on how to do this problem. Here is the problem:



Consider the lines $L1$ and $L2$ with equations:



$L_1 : r = (11, 8, 2) + s(4, 3, -1)$

$L_2 : r = (1, 1,-7) + t(2, 1, 11)$

The lines intersect at point $P$.



a. Find the coordinates of $P$.

Would we use a formula for this? For example: $fracx_1+x_22, fracy_1+y_22, fracz_1+z_22$.



b. Show that the lines are perpendicular.

Isn’t there also a formula to find if lines are perpendicular?







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  • Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 20:55











  • @mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 20:58










  • Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:00











  • @mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 21:01










  • I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:06












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I'm just working on some summer problems so that I can be more prepared when I go into my class in the fall. I found a website full of problems of the content we will be learning but it doesn't have the answers. I need a little guidance on how to do this problem. Here is the problem:



Consider the lines $L1$ and $L2$ with equations:



$L_1 : r = (11, 8, 2) + s(4, 3, -1)$

$L_2 : r = (1, 1,-7) + t(2, 1, 11)$

The lines intersect at point $P$.



a. Find the coordinates of $P$.

Would we use a formula for this? For example: $fracx_1+x_22, fracy_1+y_22, fracz_1+z_22$.



b. Show that the lines are perpendicular.

Isn’t there also a formula to find if lines are perpendicular?







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I'm just working on some summer problems so that I can be more prepared when I go into my class in the fall. I found a website full of problems of the content we will be learning but it doesn't have the answers. I need a little guidance on how to do this problem. Here is the problem:



Consider the lines $L1$ and $L2$ with equations:



$L_1 : r = (11, 8, 2) + s(4, 3, -1)$

$L_2 : r = (1, 1,-7) + t(2, 1, 11)$

The lines intersect at point $P$.



a. Find the coordinates of $P$.

Would we use a formula for this? For example: $fracx_1+x_22, fracy_1+y_22, fracz_1+z_22$.



b. Show that the lines are perpendicular.

Isn’t there also a formula to find if lines are perpendicular?









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  • Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 20:55











  • @mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 20:58










  • Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:00











  • @mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 21:01










  • I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:06
















  • Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 20:55











  • @mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 20:58










  • Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:00











  • @mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
    – Ella
    Aug 9 at 21:01










  • I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
    – mfl
    Aug 9 at 21:06















Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
– mfl
Aug 9 at 20:55





Do you mean $(11,8,2)+s(4,3,-1)?$
– mfl
Aug 9 at 20:55













@mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
– Ella
Aug 9 at 20:58




@mfl The question I found says -1, not -2. But, perhaps there was an error on their part. I am not sure.
– Ella
Aug 9 at 20:58












Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
– mfl
Aug 9 at 21:00





Sorry about the $-2$. I mean the way you write the line. It is written as [11, 8, 2] + s = [4, 3, -1]
– mfl
Aug 9 at 21:00













@mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
– Ella
Aug 9 at 21:01




@mfl Oh, yes! You’re right. Thank you. Just fixed it.
– Ella
Aug 9 at 21:01












I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
– mfl
Aug 9 at 21:06




I don't understand c. $R$ is the reflection of $Q$ with respect to what?
– mfl
Aug 9 at 21:06










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Saying that
$L_1:r=(11,8,2)+s(4,3,−1)$
means that every point on the line is of the form
(x, y, z)= (11+ 4s, 8+ 3s, 2- s) for some number s.
In other words, x= 11+ 4s, y= 8+ 3s, z= 2- s.



$L_2:r=(1,1,−7)+t(2,1,11)$
means that every point on the line is of the form
(x, y, z)= (1+ 2t, 1+ t, -7+ 11t) for some number t.
In other words, x= 1+ 2t, y= 1+ t, z= -7+ 11t.



Where the two lines intercept the x, y, z coordinates must be the same: 11+ 4s= 1+ 2t, 8+ 3s= 1+ t, 2- s= -7+ 11t.



Notice that these are three equations in only two unknowns, s and t. In general, two lines in three dimensions do NOT intersect- most often they are "skew". What we can do is solve two of the equations for s and t then see if those s and t satisfy the third equation.
11+ 4s= 1+ 2t is the same as 10+ 4s= 2t or 5+ 2s= t. Setting t= 5+ 2s in the second equation, 8+ 3s= 1+ t= 6+ 2s. s= -2 and then t= 5- 4= 1.



Checking the third equation, 2- s= -7+ 11t, 2- (-2)= 4= -7+ 11. Yes, those values are the same so the lines intersect at x= 11+ 4(-2)= 11- 8= 3, y= 8+ 3s= 8+ 3(-2)= 8- 6= 2, z= 2- s= 2- (-2)= 4. The two lines intersect at P= (3, 2, 4).






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    Part a):



    You need to solve the system



    beginalign
    11+4s&=1+2t\
    8+3s&=1+t\
    2-s&=-7+11t
    endalign



    Part b):



    The lines are perpendicular if and only if its directions are perpendicular. That is, if and only if $$(4,3,-1)cdot (2,1,11)=0.$$






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    • For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
      – Ella
      Aug 9 at 21:19










    • Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
      – mfl
      Aug 9 at 21:23










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    Saying that
    $L_1:r=(11,8,2)+s(4,3,−1)$
    means that every point on the line is of the form
    (x, y, z)= (11+ 4s, 8+ 3s, 2- s) for some number s.
    In other words, x= 11+ 4s, y= 8+ 3s, z= 2- s.



    $L_2:r=(1,1,−7)+t(2,1,11)$
    means that every point on the line is of the form
    (x, y, z)= (1+ 2t, 1+ t, -7+ 11t) for some number t.
    In other words, x= 1+ 2t, y= 1+ t, z= -7+ 11t.



    Where the two lines intercept the x, y, z coordinates must be the same: 11+ 4s= 1+ 2t, 8+ 3s= 1+ t, 2- s= -7+ 11t.



    Notice that these are three equations in only two unknowns, s and t. In general, two lines in three dimensions do NOT intersect- most often they are "skew". What we can do is solve two of the equations for s and t then see if those s and t satisfy the third equation.
    11+ 4s= 1+ 2t is the same as 10+ 4s= 2t or 5+ 2s= t. Setting t= 5+ 2s in the second equation, 8+ 3s= 1+ t= 6+ 2s. s= -2 and then t= 5- 4= 1.



    Checking the third equation, 2- s= -7+ 11t, 2- (-2)= 4= -7+ 11. Yes, those values are the same so the lines intersect at x= 11+ 4(-2)= 11- 8= 3, y= 8+ 3s= 8+ 3(-2)= 8- 6= 2, z= 2- s= 2- (-2)= 4. The two lines intersect at P= (3, 2, 4).






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      up vote
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      Saying that
      $L_1:r=(11,8,2)+s(4,3,−1)$
      means that every point on the line is of the form
      (x, y, z)= (11+ 4s, 8+ 3s, 2- s) for some number s.
      In other words, x= 11+ 4s, y= 8+ 3s, z= 2- s.



      $L_2:r=(1,1,−7)+t(2,1,11)$
      means that every point on the line is of the form
      (x, y, z)= (1+ 2t, 1+ t, -7+ 11t) for some number t.
      In other words, x= 1+ 2t, y= 1+ t, z= -7+ 11t.



      Where the two lines intercept the x, y, z coordinates must be the same: 11+ 4s= 1+ 2t, 8+ 3s= 1+ t, 2- s= -7+ 11t.



      Notice that these are three equations in only two unknowns, s and t. In general, two lines in three dimensions do NOT intersect- most often they are "skew". What we can do is solve two of the equations for s and t then see if those s and t satisfy the third equation.
      11+ 4s= 1+ 2t is the same as 10+ 4s= 2t or 5+ 2s= t. Setting t= 5+ 2s in the second equation, 8+ 3s= 1+ t= 6+ 2s. s= -2 and then t= 5- 4= 1.



      Checking the third equation, 2- s= -7+ 11t, 2- (-2)= 4= -7+ 11. Yes, those values are the same so the lines intersect at x= 11+ 4(-2)= 11- 8= 3, y= 8+ 3s= 8+ 3(-2)= 8- 6= 2, z= 2- s= 2- (-2)= 4. The two lines intersect at P= (3, 2, 4).






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        up vote
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        Saying that
        $L_1:r=(11,8,2)+s(4,3,−1)$
        means that every point on the line is of the form
        (x, y, z)= (11+ 4s, 8+ 3s, 2- s) for some number s.
        In other words, x= 11+ 4s, y= 8+ 3s, z= 2- s.



        $L_2:r=(1,1,−7)+t(2,1,11)$
        means that every point on the line is of the form
        (x, y, z)= (1+ 2t, 1+ t, -7+ 11t) for some number t.
        In other words, x= 1+ 2t, y= 1+ t, z= -7+ 11t.



        Where the two lines intercept the x, y, z coordinates must be the same: 11+ 4s= 1+ 2t, 8+ 3s= 1+ t, 2- s= -7+ 11t.



        Notice that these are three equations in only two unknowns, s and t. In general, two lines in three dimensions do NOT intersect- most often they are "skew". What we can do is solve two of the equations for s and t then see if those s and t satisfy the third equation.
        11+ 4s= 1+ 2t is the same as 10+ 4s= 2t or 5+ 2s= t. Setting t= 5+ 2s in the second equation, 8+ 3s= 1+ t= 6+ 2s. s= -2 and then t= 5- 4= 1.



        Checking the third equation, 2- s= -7+ 11t, 2- (-2)= 4= -7+ 11. Yes, those values are the same so the lines intersect at x= 11+ 4(-2)= 11- 8= 3, y= 8+ 3s= 8+ 3(-2)= 8- 6= 2, z= 2- s= 2- (-2)= 4. The two lines intersect at P= (3, 2, 4).






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        Saying that
        $L_1:r=(11,8,2)+s(4,3,−1)$
        means that every point on the line is of the form
        (x, y, z)= (11+ 4s, 8+ 3s, 2- s) for some number s.
        In other words, x= 11+ 4s, y= 8+ 3s, z= 2- s.



        $L_2:r=(1,1,−7)+t(2,1,11)$
        means that every point on the line is of the form
        (x, y, z)= (1+ 2t, 1+ t, -7+ 11t) for some number t.
        In other words, x= 1+ 2t, y= 1+ t, z= -7+ 11t.



        Where the two lines intercept the x, y, z coordinates must be the same: 11+ 4s= 1+ 2t, 8+ 3s= 1+ t, 2- s= -7+ 11t.



        Notice that these are three equations in only two unknowns, s and t. In general, two lines in three dimensions do NOT intersect- most often they are "skew". What we can do is solve two of the equations for s and t then see if those s and t satisfy the third equation.
        11+ 4s= 1+ 2t is the same as 10+ 4s= 2t or 5+ 2s= t. Setting t= 5+ 2s in the second equation, 8+ 3s= 1+ t= 6+ 2s. s= -2 and then t= 5- 4= 1.



        Checking the third equation, 2- s= -7+ 11t, 2- (-2)= 4= -7+ 11. Yes, those values are the same so the lines intersect at x= 11+ 4(-2)= 11- 8= 3, y= 8+ 3s= 8+ 3(-2)= 8- 6= 2, z= 2- s= 2- (-2)= 4. The two lines intersect at P= (3, 2, 4).







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            Ideas to get the answer



            Part a):



            You need to solve the system



            beginalign
            11+4s&=1+2t\
            8+3s&=1+t\
            2-s&=-7+11t
            endalign



            Part b):



            The lines are perpendicular if and only if its directions are perpendicular. That is, if and only if $$(4,3,-1)cdot (2,1,11)=0.$$






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            • For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
              – Ella
              Aug 9 at 21:19










            • Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
              – mfl
              Aug 9 at 21:23














            up vote
            0
            down vote













            Ideas to get the answer



            Part a):



            You need to solve the system



            beginalign
            11+4s&=1+2t\
            8+3s&=1+t\
            2-s&=-7+11t
            endalign



            Part b):



            The lines are perpendicular if and only if its directions are perpendicular. That is, if and only if $$(4,3,-1)cdot (2,1,11)=0.$$






            share|cite|improve this answer






















            • For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
              – Ella
              Aug 9 at 21:19










            • Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
              – mfl
              Aug 9 at 21:23












            up vote
            0
            down vote










            up vote
            0
            down vote









            Ideas to get the answer



            Part a):



            You need to solve the system



            beginalign
            11+4s&=1+2t\
            8+3s&=1+t\
            2-s&=-7+11t
            endalign



            Part b):



            The lines are perpendicular if and only if its directions are perpendicular. That is, if and only if $$(4,3,-1)cdot (2,1,11)=0.$$






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Ideas to get the answer



            Part a):



            You need to solve the system



            beginalign
            11+4s&=1+2t\
            8+3s&=1+t\
            2-s&=-7+11t
            endalign



            Part b):



            The lines are perpendicular if and only if its directions are perpendicular. That is, if and only if $$(4,3,-1)cdot (2,1,11)=0.$$







            share|cite|improve this answer














            share|cite|improve this answer



            share|cite|improve this answer








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            answered Aug 9 at 21:00









            mfl

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            • For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
              – Ella
              Aug 9 at 21:19










            • Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
              – mfl
              Aug 9 at 21:23
















            • For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
              – Ella
              Aug 9 at 21:19










            • Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
              – mfl
              Aug 9 at 21:23















            For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
            – Ella
            Aug 9 at 21:19




            For part a, would I combine like terms and solve for both s and t?
            – Ella
            Aug 9 at 21:19












            Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
            – mfl
            Aug 9 at 21:23




            Yes. Note that if $(x,y,z)$ is the intersection point then it must be $x=11+4s$ (line 1) and $x=1+2t$ (line 2). The same for $y,z.$ Once you get a solution of the system ($s,t$ must be a solution of the $3$ equations) you substitute $s$ in the first line (or $t$ in the second line) and you'll get $P$.
            – mfl
            Aug 9 at 21:23












             

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