Proof of $nabla f(x^*) = 0$ is necessary condition for minimizer, using taylor expansions
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Look at this part:
Define the vector $p = -nabla f(x^*)$ and note that $p^Tnabla f(x^*)
= -||nabla f(x^*)||^2 <0$. Because $f$ is continuous near $x^*$, there is a scalar $T>0$ such that
$p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp) <0, forall tin [0,T]$
Why the continuity of the gradient imply that? I understand that because the gradient is continuous, we can move around smoothly and retain the signal. But I'd suppose it works for $nabla f$ only. Why it works for $p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp)$?
Also, what if I chose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ instead of the negative?
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Look at this part:
Define the vector $p = -nabla f(x^*)$ and note that $p^Tnabla f(x^*)
= -||nabla f(x^*)||^2 <0$. Because $f$ is continuous near $x^*$, there is a scalar $T>0$ such that
$p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp) <0, forall tin [0,T]$
Why the continuity of the gradient imply that? I understand that because the gradient is continuous, we can move around smoothly and retain the signal. But I'd suppose it works for $nabla f$ only. Why it works for $p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp)$?
Also, what if I chose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ instead of the negative?
real-analysis differential-equations multivariable-calculus optimization continuity
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What definition of continuity do you know?
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@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
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Look at this part:
Define the vector $p = -nabla f(x^*)$ and note that $p^Tnabla f(x^*)
= -||nabla f(x^*)||^2 <0$. Because $f$ is continuous near $x^*$, there is a scalar $T>0$ such that
$p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp) <0, forall tin [0,T]$
Why the continuity of the gradient imply that? I understand that because the gradient is continuous, we can move around smoothly and retain the signal. But I'd suppose it works for $nabla f$ only. Why it works for $p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp)$?
Also, what if I chose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ instead of the negative?
real-analysis differential-equations multivariable-calculus optimization continuity
Look at this part:
Define the vector $p = -nabla f(x^*)$ and note that $p^Tnabla f(x^*)
= -||nabla f(x^*)||^2 <0$. Because $f$ is continuous near $x^*$, there is a scalar $T>0$ such that
$p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp) <0, forall tin [0,T]$
Why the continuity of the gradient imply that? I understand that because the gradient is continuous, we can move around smoothly and retain the signal. But I'd suppose it works for $nabla f$ only. Why it works for $p^Tnabla f(x^*+tp)$?
Also, what if I chose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ instead of the negative?
real-analysis differential-equations multivariable-calculus optimization continuity
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What definition of continuity do you know?
â user293794
Aug 9 at 23:47
@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
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What definition of continuity do you know?
â user293794
Aug 9 at 23:47
@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
â Guerlando OCs
Aug 9 at 23:54
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What definition of continuity do you know?
â user293794
Aug 9 at 23:47
What definition of continuity do you know?
â user293794
Aug 9 at 23:47
@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
â Guerlando OCs
Aug 9 at 23:54
@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
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Let $p in mathbb R^n$, and $g:mathbb R^n to mathbb R$, so that we can write $g(x) = (g_1(x),g_2(x),ldots,g_n(x))$. Write $$G(x) = p^Tg(x) = p_1g_1(x) + p_2g_2(x) + cdots + p_ng_n(x).$$
If $g$ is continuous, then so each each $g_i$. Hence, $G$ inherits continuity from $G$. Now take $p$ as defined in your textbook, and choose $g = nabla f$.
You can choose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ if you wish: you would just need to rejig the proof a little bit to make it work. It reads nicely as is, however, so there's no reason to do this.
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I think what you're missing is the following fact: if $F:mathbbR^nrightarrowmathbbR$ is continuous and satisfies $F(x_0)<0$ then there exists some $delta>0$ such that $F(x)<0$ for all $x$ such that $|x-x_0|<delta$. You should try to prove this from the limit definition of continuity. In your particular example, $F$ is the continuous function $p^Tnabla f(x)$ so by the fact above we know that $p^Tnabla f(x)<0$ for all $|x-x^*|<delta$ for some $delta$. We then just choose $T$ so that $|x+tp-x^*|<delta$ whenever $t<T$.
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Let $p in mathbb R^n$, and $g:mathbb R^n to mathbb R$, so that we can write $g(x) = (g_1(x),g_2(x),ldots,g_n(x))$. Write $$G(x) = p^Tg(x) = p_1g_1(x) + p_2g_2(x) + cdots + p_ng_n(x).$$
If $g$ is continuous, then so each each $g_i$. Hence, $G$ inherits continuity from $G$. Now take $p$ as defined in your textbook, and choose $g = nabla f$.
You can choose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ if you wish: you would just need to rejig the proof a little bit to make it work. It reads nicely as is, however, so there's no reason to do this.
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Let $p in mathbb R^n$, and $g:mathbb R^n to mathbb R$, so that we can write $g(x) = (g_1(x),g_2(x),ldots,g_n(x))$. Write $$G(x) = p^Tg(x) = p_1g_1(x) + p_2g_2(x) + cdots + p_ng_n(x).$$
If $g$ is continuous, then so each each $g_i$. Hence, $G$ inherits continuity from $G$. Now take $p$ as defined in your textbook, and choose $g = nabla f$.
You can choose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ if you wish: you would just need to rejig the proof a little bit to make it work. It reads nicely as is, however, so there's no reason to do this.
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Let $p in mathbb R^n$, and $g:mathbb R^n to mathbb R$, so that we can write $g(x) = (g_1(x),g_2(x),ldots,g_n(x))$. Write $$G(x) = p^Tg(x) = p_1g_1(x) + p_2g_2(x) + cdots + p_ng_n(x).$$
If $g$ is continuous, then so each each $g_i$. Hence, $G$ inherits continuity from $G$. Now take $p$ as defined in your textbook, and choose $g = nabla f$.
You can choose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ if you wish: you would just need to rejig the proof a little bit to make it work. It reads nicely as is, however, so there's no reason to do this.
Let $p in mathbb R^n$, and $g:mathbb R^n to mathbb R$, so that we can write $g(x) = (g_1(x),g_2(x),ldots,g_n(x))$. Write $$G(x) = p^Tg(x) = p_1g_1(x) + p_2g_2(x) + cdots + p_ng_n(x).$$
If $g$ is continuous, then so each each $g_i$. Hence, $G$ inherits continuity from $G$. Now take $p$ as defined in your textbook, and choose $g = nabla f$.
You can choose $p = nabla f(x^*)$ if you wish: you would just need to rejig the proof a little bit to make it work. It reads nicely as is, however, so there's no reason to do this.
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I think what you're missing is the following fact: if $F:mathbbR^nrightarrowmathbbR$ is continuous and satisfies $F(x_0)<0$ then there exists some $delta>0$ such that $F(x)<0$ for all $x$ such that $|x-x_0|<delta$. You should try to prove this from the limit definition of continuity. In your particular example, $F$ is the continuous function $p^Tnabla f(x)$ so by the fact above we know that $p^Tnabla f(x)<0$ for all $|x-x^*|<delta$ for some $delta$. We then just choose $T$ so that $|x+tp-x^*|<delta$ whenever $t<T$.
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I think what you're missing is the following fact: if $F:mathbbR^nrightarrowmathbbR$ is continuous and satisfies $F(x_0)<0$ then there exists some $delta>0$ such that $F(x)<0$ for all $x$ such that $|x-x_0|<delta$. You should try to prove this from the limit definition of continuity. In your particular example, $F$ is the continuous function $p^Tnabla f(x)$ so by the fact above we know that $p^Tnabla f(x)<0$ for all $|x-x^*|<delta$ for some $delta$. We then just choose $T$ so that $|x+tp-x^*|<delta$ whenever $t<T$.
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I think what you're missing is the following fact: if $F:mathbbR^nrightarrowmathbbR$ is continuous and satisfies $F(x_0)<0$ then there exists some $delta>0$ such that $F(x)<0$ for all $x$ such that $|x-x_0|<delta$. You should try to prove this from the limit definition of continuity. In your particular example, $F$ is the continuous function $p^Tnabla f(x)$ so by the fact above we know that $p^Tnabla f(x)<0$ for all $|x-x^*|<delta$ for some $delta$. We then just choose $T$ so that $|x+tp-x^*|<delta$ whenever $t<T$.
I think what you're missing is the following fact: if $F:mathbbR^nrightarrowmathbbR$ is continuous and satisfies $F(x_0)<0$ then there exists some $delta>0$ such that $F(x)<0$ for all $x$ such that $|x-x_0|<delta$. You should try to prove this from the limit definition of continuity. In your particular example, $F$ is the continuous function $p^Tnabla f(x)$ so by the fact above we know that $p^Tnabla f(x)<0$ for all $|x-x^*|<delta$ for some $delta$. We then just choose $T$ so that $|x+tp-x^*|<delta$ whenever $t<T$.
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What definition of continuity do you know?
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@user293794 the limit of the function at a point if equal to the function at that point.
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Aug 9 at 23:54