Can I use $0 = (-x) - (-x)$ as additive inverse in a proof?

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In W. Rudin's Principles of Analysis, 1.14, the proof for $-(-x) = x$ from the basic axioms of a field is hinted at but not shown. Based on the hint I came up with the following:
beginarrayl c
x = x & \
x = x + 0 & additive identity\
x = x + (-x) - (-x) & additive inverse\
x = -(-x)
endarray
Is it OK to do what I did above, use $(-x) - (-x)=0$ by definition of additive inverse? I feel I need an extra step since I used $-x$ for each $x$ in the definition $x + (-x) = 0$. Or maybe my whole approach is wrong?







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  • That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
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    Aug 16 at 6:22














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In W. Rudin's Principles of Analysis, 1.14, the proof for $-(-x) = x$ from the basic axioms of a field is hinted at but not shown. Based on the hint I came up with the following:
beginarrayl c
x = x & \
x = x + 0 & additive identity\
x = x + (-x) - (-x) & additive inverse\
x = -(-x)
endarray
Is it OK to do what I did above, use $(-x) - (-x)=0$ by definition of additive inverse? I feel I need an extra step since I used $-x$ for each $x$ in the definition $x + (-x) = 0$. Or maybe my whole approach is wrong?







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  • That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
    – fleablood
    Aug 16 at 6:22












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In W. Rudin's Principles of Analysis, 1.14, the proof for $-(-x) = x$ from the basic axioms of a field is hinted at but not shown. Based on the hint I came up with the following:
beginarrayl c
x = x & \
x = x + 0 & additive identity\
x = x + (-x) - (-x) & additive inverse\
x = -(-x)
endarray
Is it OK to do what I did above, use $(-x) - (-x)=0$ by definition of additive inverse? I feel I need an extra step since I used $-x$ for each $x$ in the definition $x + (-x) = 0$. Or maybe my whole approach is wrong?







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In W. Rudin's Principles of Analysis, 1.14, the proof for $-(-x) = x$ from the basic axioms of a field is hinted at but not shown. Based on the hint I came up with the following:
beginarrayl c
x = x & \
x = x + 0 & additive identity\
x = x + (-x) - (-x) & additive inverse\
x = -(-x)
endarray
Is it OK to do what I did above, use $(-x) - (-x)=0$ by definition of additive inverse? I feel I need an extra step since I used $-x$ for each $x$ in the definition $x + (-x) = 0$. Or maybe my whole approach is wrong?









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  • That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
    – fleablood
    Aug 16 at 6:22
















  • That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
    – fleablood
    Aug 16 at 6:22















That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
– fleablood
Aug 16 at 6:22




That's perfectly valid, but in a proof at this level you should probably explicitly point at associativiy. [That is x=x+0=x+((-x)-(-x))=(x+(-x))-(-x)=0-(-x)=-(-x).] Also I don't feel comfortable with students using the subtraction sign which is shorthand for $(-x)+(-(-x)) $. I think it has implications that a student shouldn't be implying yet.
– fleablood
Aug 16 at 6:22










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Your approach is perfectly valid.



$$x = x$$



$$x = x + 0$$
$$x = x + ((-x) - (-x))$$
Associative property of addition

$$x =( x + (-x)) - (-x)$$
$$x = 0 -(-x)=-(-x)$$






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    Your approach is fine but you jumped two steps.



    You have



    $x=x+(-x)-(-x) $ so the next should be:



    $x=(x+(-x))-(-x) $ associativity of addition



    $x=0-(-x)$ additive inverse



    $x=-(-x) $ additive identity.



    BTW I think a more direct proof would be to note:



    $x+(-x)=0$ and $-(-x)+(-x)=0$ so



    $x+(-x)=-(-x)+(-x)$ so



    $x+(-x)+x=-(-x)+(-x) +x$ from the axiom that $a=biff a+c=a+c $



    Then associativity, inverses, and identity will yield



    $x+0=-(-x)+0$ and $x=-(-x) $.






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    • That all makes sense. Thank you
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      Aug 17 at 13:02










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    Your approach is perfectly valid.



    $$x = x$$



    $$x = x + 0$$
    $$x = x + ((-x) - (-x))$$
    Associative property of addition

    $$x =( x + (-x)) - (-x)$$
    $$x = 0 -(-x)=-(-x)$$






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      Your approach is perfectly valid.



      $$x = x$$



      $$x = x + 0$$
      $$x = x + ((-x) - (-x))$$
      Associative property of addition

      $$x =( x + (-x)) - (-x)$$
      $$x = 0 -(-x)=-(-x)$$






      share|cite|improve this answer






















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        Your approach is perfectly valid.



        $$x = x$$



        $$x = x + 0$$
        $$x = x + ((-x) - (-x))$$
        Associative property of addition

        $$x =( x + (-x)) - (-x)$$
        $$x = 0 -(-x)=-(-x)$$






        share|cite|improve this answer












        Your approach is perfectly valid.



        $$x = x$$



        $$x = x + 0$$
        $$x = x + ((-x) - (-x))$$
        Associative property of addition

        $$x =( x + (-x)) - (-x)$$
        $$x = 0 -(-x)=-(-x)$$







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        answered Aug 16 at 2:17









        Mohammad Riazi-Kermani

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            Your approach is fine but you jumped two steps.



            You have



            $x=x+(-x)-(-x) $ so the next should be:



            $x=(x+(-x))-(-x) $ associativity of addition



            $x=0-(-x)$ additive inverse



            $x=-(-x) $ additive identity.



            BTW I think a more direct proof would be to note:



            $x+(-x)=0$ and $-(-x)+(-x)=0$ so



            $x+(-x)=-(-x)+(-x)$ so



            $x+(-x)+x=-(-x)+(-x) +x$ from the axiom that $a=biff a+c=a+c $



            Then associativity, inverses, and identity will yield



            $x+0=-(-x)+0$ and $x=-(-x) $.






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            • That all makes sense. Thank you
              – APR123
              Aug 17 at 13:02














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            Your approach is fine but you jumped two steps.



            You have



            $x=x+(-x)-(-x) $ so the next should be:



            $x=(x+(-x))-(-x) $ associativity of addition



            $x=0-(-x)$ additive inverse



            $x=-(-x) $ additive identity.



            BTW I think a more direct proof would be to note:



            $x+(-x)=0$ and $-(-x)+(-x)=0$ so



            $x+(-x)=-(-x)+(-x)$ so



            $x+(-x)+x=-(-x)+(-x) +x$ from the axiom that $a=biff a+c=a+c $



            Then associativity, inverses, and identity will yield



            $x+0=-(-x)+0$ and $x=-(-x) $.






            share|cite|improve this answer




















            • That all makes sense. Thank you
              – APR123
              Aug 17 at 13:02












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            Your approach is fine but you jumped two steps.



            You have



            $x=x+(-x)-(-x) $ so the next should be:



            $x=(x+(-x))-(-x) $ associativity of addition



            $x=0-(-x)$ additive inverse



            $x=-(-x) $ additive identity.



            BTW I think a more direct proof would be to note:



            $x+(-x)=0$ and $-(-x)+(-x)=0$ so



            $x+(-x)=-(-x)+(-x)$ so



            $x+(-x)+x=-(-x)+(-x) +x$ from the axiom that $a=biff a+c=a+c $



            Then associativity, inverses, and identity will yield



            $x+0=-(-x)+0$ and $x=-(-x) $.






            share|cite|improve this answer












            Your approach is fine but you jumped two steps.



            You have



            $x=x+(-x)-(-x) $ so the next should be:



            $x=(x+(-x))-(-x) $ associativity of addition



            $x=0-(-x)$ additive inverse



            $x=-(-x) $ additive identity.



            BTW I think a more direct proof would be to note:



            $x+(-x)=0$ and $-(-x)+(-x)=0$ so



            $x+(-x)=-(-x)+(-x)$ so



            $x+(-x)+x=-(-x)+(-x) +x$ from the axiom that $a=biff a+c=a+c $



            Then associativity, inverses, and identity will yield



            $x+0=-(-x)+0$ and $x=-(-x) $.







            share|cite|improve this answer












            share|cite|improve this answer



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            • That all makes sense. Thank you
              – APR123
              Aug 17 at 13:02
















            • That all makes sense. Thank you
              – APR123
              Aug 17 at 13:02















            That all makes sense. Thank you
            – APR123
            Aug 17 at 13:02




            That all makes sense. Thank you
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