Two random variables are independent if all continuous and bounded transformations are uncorrelated.

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Here's a statement I've come across multiple times but have never seen a proof of:




Two random variables $X$ and $Y$ are independent, if for all continuous and bounded funtions $f, g: mathbb Rtomathbb R$ it holds that
$$E[f(X)g(Y)]=E[f(X)]E[g(Y)].tag1$$




I found this answer but I'm not sure that I'm filling in the details correctly:



Suppose $X$ and $Y$ satisfy the condition in $(1).$ We want to show that $X$ and $Y$ are independent. Since the closed intervals generate the Borel sigma algebra, it suffices to show that
$$P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2)$$
for all closed intervals $I_1, I_2subsetmathbb R.$ Given two such intervals let $f_n, g_nge0$ be sequences of continuous and bounded functions with
$$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2). tag2$$



Then
beginalign*
P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2) &= E[1(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)]\
&= E[1(Xin I_1)1(Yin I_2)]\
&= E[lim_ntoinftyf_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]\
&= lim_ntoinftyE[f_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]quad text(by monotone convergence)\
&= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)g_m(Y)]quad text(by m.c.)\
&= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)]E[g_m(Y)]quad text(by assumption)\
&= E[1(Xin I_1)]E[1(Yin I_2)]quad text(by m.c.)\
&=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2),\
endalign*
hence the claim.



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    Here's a statement I've come across multiple times but have never seen a proof of:




    Two random variables $X$ and $Y$ are independent, if for all continuous and bounded funtions $f, g: mathbb Rtomathbb R$ it holds that
    $$E[f(X)g(Y)]=E[f(X)]E[g(Y)].tag1$$




    I found this answer but I'm not sure that I'm filling in the details correctly:



    Suppose $X$ and $Y$ satisfy the condition in $(1).$ We want to show that $X$ and $Y$ are independent. Since the closed intervals generate the Borel sigma algebra, it suffices to show that
    $$P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2)$$
    for all closed intervals $I_1, I_2subsetmathbb R.$ Given two such intervals let $f_n, g_nge0$ be sequences of continuous and bounded functions with
    $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2). tag2$$



    Then
    beginalign*
    P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2) &= E[1(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)]\
    &= E[1(Xin I_1)1(Yin I_2)]\
    &= E[lim_ntoinftyf_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]\
    &= lim_ntoinftyE[f_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]quad text(by monotone convergence)\
    &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)g_m(Y)]quad text(by m.c.)\
    &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)]E[g_m(Y)]quad text(by assumption)\
    &= E[1(Xin I_1)]E[1(Yin I_2)]quad text(by m.c.)\
    &=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2),\
    endalign*
    hence the claim.



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      Here's a statement I've come across multiple times but have never seen a proof of:




      Two random variables $X$ and $Y$ are independent, if for all continuous and bounded funtions $f, g: mathbb Rtomathbb R$ it holds that
      $$E[f(X)g(Y)]=E[f(X)]E[g(Y)].tag1$$




      I found this answer but I'm not sure that I'm filling in the details correctly:



      Suppose $X$ and $Y$ satisfy the condition in $(1).$ We want to show that $X$ and $Y$ are independent. Since the closed intervals generate the Borel sigma algebra, it suffices to show that
      $$P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2)$$
      for all closed intervals $I_1, I_2subsetmathbb R.$ Given two such intervals let $f_n, g_nge0$ be sequences of continuous and bounded functions with
      $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2). tag2$$



      Then
      beginalign*
      P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2) &= E[1(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)]\
      &= E[1(Xin I_1)1(Yin I_2)]\
      &= E[lim_ntoinftyf_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]\
      &= lim_ntoinftyE[f_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]quad text(by monotone convergence)\
      &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)g_m(Y)]quad text(by m.c.)\
      &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)]E[g_m(Y)]quad text(by assumption)\
      &= E[1(Xin I_1)]E[1(Yin I_2)]quad text(by m.c.)\
      &=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2),\
      endalign*
      hence the claim.



      Question: Is my above proof correct?







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      Here's a statement I've come across multiple times but have never seen a proof of:




      Two random variables $X$ and $Y$ are independent, if for all continuous and bounded funtions $f, g: mathbb Rtomathbb R$ it holds that
      $$E[f(X)g(Y)]=E[f(X)]E[g(Y)].tag1$$




      I found this answer but I'm not sure that I'm filling in the details correctly:



      Suppose $X$ and $Y$ satisfy the condition in $(1).$ We want to show that $X$ and $Y$ are independent. Since the closed intervals generate the Borel sigma algebra, it suffices to show that
      $$P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2)$$
      for all closed intervals $I_1, I_2subsetmathbb R.$ Given two such intervals let $f_n, g_nge0$ be sequences of continuous and bounded functions with
      $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2). tag2$$



      Then
      beginalign*
      P(Xin I_1, Yin I_2) &= E[1(Xin I_1, Yin I_2)]\
      &= E[1(Xin I_1)1(Yin I_2)]\
      &= E[lim_ntoinftyf_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]\
      &= lim_ntoinftyE[f_n(X)lim_mtoinftyg_m(Y)]quad text(by monotone convergence)\
      &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)g_m(Y)]quad text(by m.c.)\
      &= lim_ntoinftylim_mtoinftyE[f_n(X)]E[g_m(Y)]quad text(by assumption)\
      &= E[1(Xin I_1)]E[1(Yin I_2)]quad text(by m.c.)\
      &=P(Xin I_1)P(Yin I_2),\
      endalign*
      hence the claim.



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          You cannot take closed intervals in this argument. The argument works if you take open intervals.






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          • Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
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            Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
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          • Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
            – Epiousios
            Aug 16 at 9:40






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            Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
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            Aug 16 at 9:47














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          You cannot take closed intervals in this argument. The argument works if you take open intervals.






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          • Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
            – Epiousios
            Aug 16 at 9:40






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            Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 16 at 9:47












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          You cannot take closed intervals in this argument. The argument works if you take open intervals.






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          • Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
            – Epiousios
            Aug 16 at 9:40






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            Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 16 at 9:47
















          • Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
            – Epiousios
            Aug 16 at 9:40






          • 1




            Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 16 at 9:47















          Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
          – Epiousios
          Aug 16 at 9:40




          Is that because otherwise I would not be able to find $f_n$ and $g_n$ with $$f_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_1), quad g_n(cdot)uparrow 1(cdotin I_2)?$$
          – Epiousios
          Aug 16 at 9:40




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          Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Aug 16 at 9:47




          Yes, you can do this for open intervals but not for closed intervals.
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