Reversing digits of power of 2 to yield power of 7
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Are there positive integers $n$ and $m$ for which reversing the base-10 digits of $2^n$ yields $7^m$?
I've answered this question for powers of 2 and powers of 3 in the negative. Permutations of the digits of a number divisible by 3 yields another number divisible by 3 in base-10. This arises from the fact that the sum of base-10 digits of a number divisible by 3 is itself divisible by 3.
Thus since $2^n$ is not divisible by 3, reversing the digits can't yield another number divisible by 3, and hence no natural number power of 2 when reversed will be a natural power of 3.
I'm currently trying to put limitations on n and m by considering modular arithmetic. Suggestions for techniques in the comments would also be appreciated.
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Are there positive integers $n$ and $m$ for which reversing the base-10 digits of $2^n$ yields $7^m$?
I've answered this question for powers of 2 and powers of 3 in the negative. Permutations of the digits of a number divisible by 3 yields another number divisible by 3 in base-10. This arises from the fact that the sum of base-10 digits of a number divisible by 3 is itself divisible by 3.
Thus since $2^n$ is not divisible by 3, reversing the digits can't yield another number divisible by 3, and hence no natural number power of 2 when reversed will be a natural power of 3.
I'm currently trying to put limitations on n and m by considering modular arithmetic. Suggestions for techniques in the comments would also be appreciated.
number-theory modular-arithmetic exponentiation
If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
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Aug 25 at 18:29
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Are there positive integers $n$ and $m$ for which reversing the base-10 digits of $2^n$ yields $7^m$?
I've answered this question for powers of 2 and powers of 3 in the negative. Permutations of the digits of a number divisible by 3 yields another number divisible by 3 in base-10. This arises from the fact that the sum of base-10 digits of a number divisible by 3 is itself divisible by 3.
Thus since $2^n$ is not divisible by 3, reversing the digits can't yield another number divisible by 3, and hence no natural number power of 2 when reversed will be a natural power of 3.
I'm currently trying to put limitations on n and m by considering modular arithmetic. Suggestions for techniques in the comments would also be appreciated.
number-theory modular-arithmetic exponentiation
Are there positive integers $n$ and $m$ for which reversing the base-10 digits of $2^n$ yields $7^m$?
I've answered this question for powers of 2 and powers of 3 in the negative. Permutations of the digits of a number divisible by 3 yields another number divisible by 3 in base-10. This arises from the fact that the sum of base-10 digits of a number divisible by 3 is itself divisible by 3.
Thus since $2^n$ is not divisible by 3, reversing the digits can't yield another number divisible by 3, and hence no natural number power of 2 when reversed will be a natural power of 3.
I'm currently trying to put limitations on n and m by considering modular arithmetic. Suggestions for techniques in the comments would also be appreciated.
number-theory modular-arithmetic exponentiation
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If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
This is also related
â mbjoe
Aug 25 at 18:29
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If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
This is also related
â mbjoe
Aug 25 at 18:29
If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
This is also related
â mbjoe
Aug 25 at 18:29
This is also related
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Aug 25 at 18:29
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Some basic observations:
$n$ must be even: one has $2^n=7^m=1 pmod3$ and so $n$ is even.
$n-m$ must be divisible by 3: one has $2^n=7^m=(-2)^m pmod9$ and so $2^n-m=(-1)^m pmod9$ and so $n-m$ is divisible by 3.
$n-2m$ is divisible by 10 as the following two paragraph show.
If the number of digits is even, then $2^n+7^m$ is a multiple of 11. Therefore, $2^n+(-4)^m =0 pmod11$. Since $n$ is even, we let $n=2l$, and so $4^l+(-4)^m=0 pmod11$. It follows that $m$ is odd and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
If the number of digits is odd, then $2^n=7^m pmod11$. Again we have $4^l=(-4)^m pmod11$ and so $4^l-m=(-1)^m pmod11$, which implies that $m$ is even and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
The number of digits of $2^n$ is given by the inequality $10^s<2^n<10^s+1$. So $s<n log_10 2<s+1$. In particular $|nlog 2 - m log 7|<1$.
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Some basic observations:
$n$ must be even: one has $2^n=7^m=1 pmod3$ and so $n$ is even.
$n-m$ must be divisible by 3: one has $2^n=7^m=(-2)^m pmod9$ and so $2^n-m=(-1)^m pmod9$ and so $n-m$ is divisible by 3.
$n-2m$ is divisible by 10 as the following two paragraph show.
If the number of digits is even, then $2^n+7^m$ is a multiple of 11. Therefore, $2^n+(-4)^m =0 pmod11$. Since $n$ is even, we let $n=2l$, and so $4^l+(-4)^m=0 pmod11$. It follows that $m$ is odd and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
If the number of digits is odd, then $2^n=7^m pmod11$. Again we have $4^l=(-4)^m pmod11$ and so $4^l-m=(-1)^m pmod11$, which implies that $m$ is even and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
The number of digits of $2^n$ is given by the inequality $10^s<2^n<10^s+1$. So $s<n log_10 2<s+1$. In particular $|nlog 2 - m log 7|<1$.
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Some basic observations:
$n$ must be even: one has $2^n=7^m=1 pmod3$ and so $n$ is even.
$n-m$ must be divisible by 3: one has $2^n=7^m=(-2)^m pmod9$ and so $2^n-m=(-1)^m pmod9$ and so $n-m$ is divisible by 3.
$n-2m$ is divisible by 10 as the following two paragraph show.
If the number of digits is even, then $2^n+7^m$ is a multiple of 11. Therefore, $2^n+(-4)^m =0 pmod11$. Since $n$ is even, we let $n=2l$, and so $4^l+(-4)^m=0 pmod11$. It follows that $m$ is odd and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
If the number of digits is odd, then $2^n=7^m pmod11$. Again we have $4^l=(-4)^m pmod11$ and so $4^l-m=(-1)^m pmod11$, which implies that $m$ is even and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
The number of digits of $2^n$ is given by the inequality $10^s<2^n<10^s+1$. So $s<n log_10 2<s+1$. In particular $|nlog 2 - m log 7|<1$.
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Some basic observations:
$n$ must be even: one has $2^n=7^m=1 pmod3$ and so $n$ is even.
$n-m$ must be divisible by 3: one has $2^n=7^m=(-2)^m pmod9$ and so $2^n-m=(-1)^m pmod9$ and so $n-m$ is divisible by 3.
$n-2m$ is divisible by 10 as the following two paragraph show.
If the number of digits is even, then $2^n+7^m$ is a multiple of 11. Therefore, $2^n+(-4)^m =0 pmod11$. Since $n$ is even, we let $n=2l$, and so $4^l+(-4)^m=0 pmod11$. It follows that $m$ is odd and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
If the number of digits is odd, then $2^n=7^m pmod11$. Again we have $4^l=(-4)^m pmod11$ and so $4^l-m=(-1)^m pmod11$, which implies that $m$ is even and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
The number of digits of $2^n$ is given by the inequality $10^s<2^n<10^s+1$. So $s<n log_10 2<s+1$. In particular $|nlog 2 - m log 7|<1$.
Some basic observations:
$n$ must be even: one has $2^n=7^m=1 pmod3$ and so $n$ is even.
$n-m$ must be divisible by 3: one has $2^n=7^m=(-2)^m pmod9$ and so $2^n-m=(-1)^m pmod9$ and so $n-m$ is divisible by 3.
$n-2m$ is divisible by 10 as the following two paragraph show.
If the number of digits is even, then $2^n+7^m$ is a multiple of 11. Therefore, $2^n+(-4)^m =0 pmod11$. Since $n$ is even, we let $n=2l$, and so $4^l+(-4)^m=0 pmod11$. It follows that $m$ is odd and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
If the number of digits is odd, then $2^n=7^m pmod11$. Again we have $4^l=(-4)^m pmod11$ and so $4^l-m=(-1)^m pmod11$, which implies that $m$ is even and $l-m$ is divisible by 5.
The number of digits of $2^n$ is given by the inequality $10^s<2^n<10^s+1$. So $s<n log_10 2<s+1$. In particular $|nlog 2 - m log 7|<1$.
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If the number of digits is even, adding $2^n$ to $7^m$ would give a multiple of 11. By letting 7=-4 modulo 11, some things can be said about $m$ and $n$.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:20
Also going on with the same idea of remainders modulo 3, you can say $n$ must be even since $2^n=7^m=1$ modulo 3.
â Marco
Aug 25 at 3:22
Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1653079/â¦
â Misha Lavrov
Aug 25 at 3:55
$1024=2^10$ and $2401=7^4$ are close to being reversals of each other....
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 25 at 4:23
This is also related
â mbjoe
Aug 25 at 18:29