Homeomorphism from square to unit circle
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Can we find a homeomorphism from the square $Q_2$ of side length $2$ centered on the origin and the unit circle $S^1$?
We can easily define a map $r:Q longrightarrow S^1$ by
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrtx^2+y^2,fracysqrtx^2+y^2 bigg)$$ which is a radial projection onto the unit circle, but how can we define $r^-1$ and show that it is continuous?
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I think we may define the inverse map as
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrt2maxâÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâ , fracysqrt2max âÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâÂÂbigg)$$At least intuitively this maps to a square, and the $frac1sqrt2$ term scales appropriately. However, how can we demonstrate these are continuous maps, thus demonstrating that $Q_2$ and $S^1$ are homeomorphic?
Any help would be appreciated. Regards, MM.
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Can we find a homeomorphism from the square $Q_2$ of side length $2$ centered on the origin and the unit circle $S^1$?
We can easily define a map $r:Q longrightarrow S^1$ by
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrtx^2+y^2,fracysqrtx^2+y^2 bigg)$$ which is a radial projection onto the unit circle, but how can we define $r^-1$ and show that it is continuous?
Thoughts
I think we may define the inverse map as
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrt2maxâÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâ , fracysqrt2max âÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâÂÂbigg)$$At least intuitively this maps to a square, and the $frac1sqrt2$ term scales appropriately. However, how can we demonstrate these are continuous maps, thus demonstrating that $Q_2$ and $S^1$ are homeomorphic?
Any help would be appreciated. Regards, MM.
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Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
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I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
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You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
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Can we find a homeomorphism from the square $Q_2$ of side length $2$ centered on the origin and the unit circle $S^1$?
We can easily define a map $r:Q longrightarrow S^1$ by
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrtx^2+y^2,fracysqrtx^2+y^2 bigg)$$ which is a radial projection onto the unit circle, but how can we define $r^-1$ and show that it is continuous?
Thoughts
I think we may define the inverse map as
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrt2maxâÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâ , fracysqrt2max âÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâÂÂbigg)$$At least intuitively this maps to a square, and the $frac1sqrt2$ term scales appropriately. However, how can we demonstrate these are continuous maps, thus demonstrating that $Q_2$ and $S^1$ are homeomorphic?
Any help would be appreciated. Regards, MM.
general-topology metric-spaces
Can we find a homeomorphism from the square $Q_2$ of side length $2$ centered on the origin and the unit circle $S^1$?
We can easily define a map $r:Q longrightarrow S^1$ by
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrtx^2+y^2,fracysqrtx^2+y^2 bigg)$$ which is a radial projection onto the unit circle, but how can we define $r^-1$ and show that it is continuous?
Thoughts
I think we may define the inverse map as
$$(x,y) mapsto bigg(fracxsqrt2maxâÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâ , fracysqrt2max âÂÂxâÂÂ, âÂÂyâÂÂbigg)$$At least intuitively this maps to a square, and the $frac1sqrt2$ term scales appropriately. However, how can we demonstrate these are continuous maps, thus demonstrating that $Q_2$ and $S^1$ are homeomorphic?
Any help would be appreciated. Regards, MM.
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Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
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I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
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You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
â Qiaochu Yuan
Jan 30 '12 at 2:02
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Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
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I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
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You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
â Qiaochu Yuan
Jan 30 '12 at 2:02
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Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
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I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
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You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
â Qiaochu Yuan
Jan 30 '12 at 2:02
You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
â Qiaochu Yuan
Jan 30 '12 at 2:02
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Let me outline a proof; I shall leave the details of this proof as exercises.
Exercise 1: Prove that the unit circle $S^1$ is homeomorphic to the space obtained from the unit interval $[0,1]$ by identifying the endpoints $0$ and $1$. (Hint: the exponential mapping $thetato e^itheta$ can be composed with a linear mapping to give a homeomorphism.)
Let $C$ be the image of a simple closed curve in the plane, that is, let $C$ be the image of a continuous function $f:[0,1]to mathbbR^2$ such that $f:(0,1)tomathbbR^2$ is injective and $f(0)=f(1)$.
Exercise 2: Prove that $C$ is homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$. (Hint: show that $f:[0,1]to C$ induces a continuous bijection $tildef:S^1to C$ using Exercise 1 and then show that $f$ is an open mapping using the compactness of $S^1$ and the fact that the plane is Hausdorff.)
We now need an elementary lemma of point-set topology:
Exercise 3: Let $X$ be a topological space and let $X=Acup B$ where $A$ and $B$ are closed subspaces of $X$. Prove that if $g:Ato Y$ and $h:Bto Y$ are continuous functions into a topological space $Y$ such that $g(x)=h(x)$ for all $xin Acap B$, then there is a unique continuous function $f:Xto Y$ such that $f(a)=g(a)$ and $f(b)=h(b)$ for all $ain A$ and $bin B$.
Finally, we can prove the result of your question:
Exercise 4: Prove that the unit square is the image of a simple closed curve in the plane and conclude that it is homeomorphic to the unit circle. (Hint: you can use Exercise 3 to "glue" continuous mappings together.)
Exercise 5: Give examples of images of simple closed curves in the plane (using Exercise 3) and conclude (using Exercise 2) that they are homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$.
I hope this helps!
Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
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I'm not sure why you need algebraic formulas. Define each map $f$ to be radial projection onto the appropriate curve (from the origin) and find continuity by the property "$forall$ neighborhood $U$ of $f(x)$ $exists$ a neighborhood of $x$ whose image is contained in $U$", which is easy to check by eye.
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
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It seems off to me. For example, in your second map, the point $(1,0)$, which is on the unit circle, gets mapped to $(frac1sqrt2,0)$, which is not on the square.
If I were you, I would write out the four different maps for each side of the square - I think it simplifies the process, especially since once you remove the max terms, the function is easier to work with.
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If you choose to go about it in a computational manner, you can prove that both of the maps are continuous by noting that they are compositions of continuous functions.
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Following in line with @Amitesh Datta's answer above, rather than proving the homeomorphism directly there are simpler ways that one can arrive at the desired result.
This following technique uses a fairly high-powered result (in the sense that once you know it, you can prove a lot of things are homeomorphic quite easily), but I think it's a very useful result that anyone doing topology should be aware of.
Definition: An open $n$-cell is any topological space that is homeomorphic to the open unit ball $mathbbB^n$. A closed $n$-cell is any topological space homeomorphic to $overlinemathbbB^n$
This is the high-powered result that I mentioned earlier.
Theorem: If $D subseteq mathbbR^n$ is a compact convex subset with nonempty interior, then $D$ is a closed $n$-cell and it's interior is an open $n$-cell. In fact given any point $p in operatornameInt(D)$, there exists a homeomorphism $F: overlinemathbbB^n to D$ that sends $0$ to $p$, $mathbbB^n$ to $operatornameInt(D)$ and $mathbbS^n-1$ to $operatornameBd D$.
Now note that if we let $A subseteq mathbbR^2$ be the (solid) square of side length $2$, then $A$ is easily seen to be a convex subset, and is thus a closed $2$-cell by the theorem above. Moreover the square $Q_2$ is the topological boundary of the solid square $A$ and the theorem above then immediately shows that $operatornameBd(A) = Q_2 cong S^1$ as desired.
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Let me outline a proof; I shall leave the details of this proof as exercises.
Exercise 1: Prove that the unit circle $S^1$ is homeomorphic to the space obtained from the unit interval $[0,1]$ by identifying the endpoints $0$ and $1$. (Hint: the exponential mapping $thetato e^itheta$ can be composed with a linear mapping to give a homeomorphism.)
Let $C$ be the image of a simple closed curve in the plane, that is, let $C$ be the image of a continuous function $f:[0,1]to mathbbR^2$ such that $f:(0,1)tomathbbR^2$ is injective and $f(0)=f(1)$.
Exercise 2: Prove that $C$ is homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$. (Hint: show that $f:[0,1]to C$ induces a continuous bijection $tildef:S^1to C$ using Exercise 1 and then show that $f$ is an open mapping using the compactness of $S^1$ and the fact that the plane is Hausdorff.)
We now need an elementary lemma of point-set topology:
Exercise 3: Let $X$ be a topological space and let $X=Acup B$ where $A$ and $B$ are closed subspaces of $X$. Prove that if $g:Ato Y$ and $h:Bto Y$ are continuous functions into a topological space $Y$ such that $g(x)=h(x)$ for all $xin Acap B$, then there is a unique continuous function $f:Xto Y$ such that $f(a)=g(a)$ and $f(b)=h(b)$ for all $ain A$ and $bin B$.
Finally, we can prove the result of your question:
Exercise 4: Prove that the unit square is the image of a simple closed curve in the plane and conclude that it is homeomorphic to the unit circle. (Hint: you can use Exercise 3 to "glue" continuous mappings together.)
Exercise 5: Give examples of images of simple closed curves in the plane (using Exercise 3) and conclude (using Exercise 2) that they are homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$.
I hope this helps!
Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 30 '12 at 10:50
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Let me outline a proof; I shall leave the details of this proof as exercises.
Exercise 1: Prove that the unit circle $S^1$ is homeomorphic to the space obtained from the unit interval $[0,1]$ by identifying the endpoints $0$ and $1$. (Hint: the exponential mapping $thetato e^itheta$ can be composed with a linear mapping to give a homeomorphism.)
Let $C$ be the image of a simple closed curve in the plane, that is, let $C$ be the image of a continuous function $f:[0,1]to mathbbR^2$ such that $f:(0,1)tomathbbR^2$ is injective and $f(0)=f(1)$.
Exercise 2: Prove that $C$ is homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$. (Hint: show that $f:[0,1]to C$ induces a continuous bijection $tildef:S^1to C$ using Exercise 1 and then show that $f$ is an open mapping using the compactness of $S^1$ and the fact that the plane is Hausdorff.)
We now need an elementary lemma of point-set topology:
Exercise 3: Let $X$ be a topological space and let $X=Acup B$ where $A$ and $B$ are closed subspaces of $X$. Prove that if $g:Ato Y$ and $h:Bto Y$ are continuous functions into a topological space $Y$ such that $g(x)=h(x)$ for all $xin Acap B$, then there is a unique continuous function $f:Xto Y$ such that $f(a)=g(a)$ and $f(b)=h(b)$ for all $ain A$ and $bin B$.
Finally, we can prove the result of your question:
Exercise 4: Prove that the unit square is the image of a simple closed curve in the plane and conclude that it is homeomorphic to the unit circle. (Hint: you can use Exercise 3 to "glue" continuous mappings together.)
Exercise 5: Give examples of images of simple closed curves in the plane (using Exercise 3) and conclude (using Exercise 2) that they are homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$.
I hope this helps!
Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 30 '12 at 10:50
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Let me outline a proof; I shall leave the details of this proof as exercises.
Exercise 1: Prove that the unit circle $S^1$ is homeomorphic to the space obtained from the unit interval $[0,1]$ by identifying the endpoints $0$ and $1$. (Hint: the exponential mapping $thetato e^itheta$ can be composed with a linear mapping to give a homeomorphism.)
Let $C$ be the image of a simple closed curve in the plane, that is, let $C$ be the image of a continuous function $f:[0,1]to mathbbR^2$ such that $f:(0,1)tomathbbR^2$ is injective and $f(0)=f(1)$.
Exercise 2: Prove that $C$ is homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$. (Hint: show that $f:[0,1]to C$ induces a continuous bijection $tildef:S^1to C$ using Exercise 1 and then show that $f$ is an open mapping using the compactness of $S^1$ and the fact that the plane is Hausdorff.)
We now need an elementary lemma of point-set topology:
Exercise 3: Let $X$ be a topological space and let $X=Acup B$ where $A$ and $B$ are closed subspaces of $X$. Prove that if $g:Ato Y$ and $h:Bto Y$ are continuous functions into a topological space $Y$ such that $g(x)=h(x)$ for all $xin Acap B$, then there is a unique continuous function $f:Xto Y$ such that $f(a)=g(a)$ and $f(b)=h(b)$ for all $ain A$ and $bin B$.
Finally, we can prove the result of your question:
Exercise 4: Prove that the unit square is the image of a simple closed curve in the plane and conclude that it is homeomorphic to the unit circle. (Hint: you can use Exercise 3 to "glue" continuous mappings together.)
Exercise 5: Give examples of images of simple closed curves in the plane (using Exercise 3) and conclude (using Exercise 2) that they are homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$.
I hope this helps!
Let me outline a proof; I shall leave the details of this proof as exercises.
Exercise 1: Prove that the unit circle $S^1$ is homeomorphic to the space obtained from the unit interval $[0,1]$ by identifying the endpoints $0$ and $1$. (Hint: the exponential mapping $thetato e^itheta$ can be composed with a linear mapping to give a homeomorphism.)
Let $C$ be the image of a simple closed curve in the plane, that is, let $C$ be the image of a continuous function $f:[0,1]to mathbbR^2$ such that $f:(0,1)tomathbbR^2$ is injective and $f(0)=f(1)$.
Exercise 2: Prove that $C$ is homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$. (Hint: show that $f:[0,1]to C$ induces a continuous bijection $tildef:S^1to C$ using Exercise 1 and then show that $f$ is an open mapping using the compactness of $S^1$ and the fact that the plane is Hausdorff.)
We now need an elementary lemma of point-set topology:
Exercise 3: Let $X$ be a topological space and let $X=Acup B$ where $A$ and $B$ are closed subspaces of $X$. Prove that if $g:Ato Y$ and $h:Bto Y$ are continuous functions into a topological space $Y$ such that $g(x)=h(x)$ for all $xin Acap B$, then there is a unique continuous function $f:Xto Y$ such that $f(a)=g(a)$ and $f(b)=h(b)$ for all $ain A$ and $bin B$.
Finally, we can prove the result of your question:
Exercise 4: Prove that the unit square is the image of a simple closed curve in the plane and conclude that it is homeomorphic to the unit circle. (Hint: you can use Exercise 3 to "glue" continuous mappings together.)
Exercise 5: Give examples of images of simple closed curves in the plane (using Exercise 3) and conclude (using Exercise 2) that they are homeomorphic to the unit circle $S^1$.
I hope this helps!
answered Jan 30 '12 at 1:57
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Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
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Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 30 '12 at 10:50
Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 30 '12 at 10:50
Thanks! This is very thorough and clear.
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I'm not sure why you need algebraic formulas. Define each map $f$ to be radial projection onto the appropriate curve (from the origin) and find continuity by the property "$forall$ neighborhood $U$ of $f(x)$ $exists$ a neighborhood of $x$ whose image is contained in $U$", which is easy to check by eye.
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
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I'm not sure why you need algebraic formulas. Define each map $f$ to be radial projection onto the appropriate curve (from the origin) and find continuity by the property "$forall$ neighborhood $U$ of $f(x)$ $exists$ a neighborhood of $x$ whose image is contained in $U$", which is easy to check by eye.
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
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I'm not sure why you need algebraic formulas. Define each map $f$ to be radial projection onto the appropriate curve (from the origin) and find continuity by the property "$forall$ neighborhood $U$ of $f(x)$ $exists$ a neighborhood of $x$ whose image is contained in $U$", which is easy to check by eye.
I'm not sure why you need algebraic formulas. Define each map $f$ to be radial projection onto the appropriate curve (from the origin) and find continuity by the property "$forall$ neighborhood $U$ of $f(x)$ $exists$ a neighborhood of $x$ whose image is contained in $U$", which is easy to check by eye.
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:33
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:33
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Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
Many thanks for this contribution. Are we able to be more specific about the radial projection 'from the appropriate curve' and how we can deduce continuity from it?
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:23
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Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:33
Radial projection: Your image is the point on the target curve on the same line through the origin as the point in the domain. Continuity: Pick a neighborhood of that image, and a neighborhood of its preimage small enough (say, of small enough angular length around the origin) that its image is contained in that neighborhood. These are very nice spaces, so such a neighborhood exists by inspection.
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It seems off to me. For example, in your second map, the point $(1,0)$, which is on the unit circle, gets mapped to $(frac1sqrt2,0)$, which is not on the square.
If I were you, I would write out the four different maps for each side of the square - I think it simplifies the process, especially since once you remove the max terms, the function is easier to work with.
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It seems off to me. For example, in your second map, the point $(1,0)$, which is on the unit circle, gets mapped to $(frac1sqrt2,0)$, which is not on the square.
If I were you, I would write out the four different maps for each side of the square - I think it simplifies the process, especially since once you remove the max terms, the function is easier to work with.
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It seems off to me. For example, in your second map, the point $(1,0)$, which is on the unit circle, gets mapped to $(frac1sqrt2,0)$, which is not on the square.
If I were you, I would write out the four different maps for each side of the square - I think it simplifies the process, especially since once you remove the max terms, the function is easier to work with.
It seems off to me. For example, in your second map, the point $(1,0)$, which is on the unit circle, gets mapped to $(frac1sqrt2,0)$, which is not on the square.
If I were you, I would write out the four different maps for each side of the square - I think it simplifies the process, especially since once you remove the max terms, the function is easier to work with.
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If you choose to go about it in a computational manner, you can prove that both of the maps are continuous by noting that they are compositions of continuous functions.
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If you choose to go about it in a computational manner, you can prove that both of the maps are continuous by noting that they are compositions of continuous functions.
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If you choose to go about it in a computational manner, you can prove that both of the maps are continuous by noting that they are compositions of continuous functions.
If you choose to go about it in a computational manner, you can prove that both of the maps are continuous by noting that they are compositions of continuous functions.
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Following in line with @Amitesh Datta's answer above, rather than proving the homeomorphism directly there are simpler ways that one can arrive at the desired result.
This following technique uses a fairly high-powered result (in the sense that once you know it, you can prove a lot of things are homeomorphic quite easily), but I think it's a very useful result that anyone doing topology should be aware of.
Definition: An open $n$-cell is any topological space that is homeomorphic to the open unit ball $mathbbB^n$. A closed $n$-cell is any topological space homeomorphic to $overlinemathbbB^n$
This is the high-powered result that I mentioned earlier.
Theorem: If $D subseteq mathbbR^n$ is a compact convex subset with nonempty interior, then $D$ is a closed $n$-cell and it's interior is an open $n$-cell. In fact given any point $p in operatornameInt(D)$, there exists a homeomorphism $F: overlinemathbbB^n to D$ that sends $0$ to $p$, $mathbbB^n$ to $operatornameInt(D)$ and $mathbbS^n-1$ to $operatornameBd D$.
Now note that if we let $A subseteq mathbbR^2$ be the (solid) square of side length $2$, then $A$ is easily seen to be a convex subset, and is thus a closed $2$-cell by the theorem above. Moreover the square $Q_2$ is the topological boundary of the solid square $A$ and the theorem above then immediately shows that $operatornameBd(A) = Q_2 cong S^1$ as desired.
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Following in line with @Amitesh Datta's answer above, rather than proving the homeomorphism directly there are simpler ways that one can arrive at the desired result.
This following technique uses a fairly high-powered result (in the sense that once you know it, you can prove a lot of things are homeomorphic quite easily), but I think it's a very useful result that anyone doing topology should be aware of.
Definition: An open $n$-cell is any topological space that is homeomorphic to the open unit ball $mathbbB^n$. A closed $n$-cell is any topological space homeomorphic to $overlinemathbbB^n$
This is the high-powered result that I mentioned earlier.
Theorem: If $D subseteq mathbbR^n$ is a compact convex subset with nonempty interior, then $D$ is a closed $n$-cell and it's interior is an open $n$-cell. In fact given any point $p in operatornameInt(D)$, there exists a homeomorphism $F: overlinemathbbB^n to D$ that sends $0$ to $p$, $mathbbB^n$ to $operatornameInt(D)$ and $mathbbS^n-1$ to $operatornameBd D$.
Now note that if we let $A subseteq mathbbR^2$ be the (solid) square of side length $2$, then $A$ is easily seen to be a convex subset, and is thus a closed $2$-cell by the theorem above. Moreover the square $Q_2$ is the topological boundary of the solid square $A$ and the theorem above then immediately shows that $operatornameBd(A) = Q_2 cong S^1$ as desired.
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Following in line with @Amitesh Datta's answer above, rather than proving the homeomorphism directly there are simpler ways that one can arrive at the desired result.
This following technique uses a fairly high-powered result (in the sense that once you know it, you can prove a lot of things are homeomorphic quite easily), but I think it's a very useful result that anyone doing topology should be aware of.
Definition: An open $n$-cell is any topological space that is homeomorphic to the open unit ball $mathbbB^n$. A closed $n$-cell is any topological space homeomorphic to $overlinemathbbB^n$
This is the high-powered result that I mentioned earlier.
Theorem: If $D subseteq mathbbR^n$ is a compact convex subset with nonempty interior, then $D$ is a closed $n$-cell and it's interior is an open $n$-cell. In fact given any point $p in operatornameInt(D)$, there exists a homeomorphism $F: overlinemathbbB^n to D$ that sends $0$ to $p$, $mathbbB^n$ to $operatornameInt(D)$ and $mathbbS^n-1$ to $operatornameBd D$.
Now note that if we let $A subseteq mathbbR^2$ be the (solid) square of side length $2$, then $A$ is easily seen to be a convex subset, and is thus a closed $2$-cell by the theorem above. Moreover the square $Q_2$ is the topological boundary of the solid square $A$ and the theorem above then immediately shows that $operatornameBd(A) = Q_2 cong S^1$ as desired.
Following in line with @Amitesh Datta's answer above, rather than proving the homeomorphism directly there are simpler ways that one can arrive at the desired result.
This following technique uses a fairly high-powered result (in the sense that once you know it, you can prove a lot of things are homeomorphic quite easily), but I think it's a very useful result that anyone doing topology should be aware of.
Definition: An open $n$-cell is any topological space that is homeomorphic to the open unit ball $mathbbB^n$. A closed $n$-cell is any topological space homeomorphic to $overlinemathbbB^n$
This is the high-powered result that I mentioned earlier.
Theorem: If $D subseteq mathbbR^n$ is a compact convex subset with nonempty interior, then $D$ is a closed $n$-cell and it's interior is an open $n$-cell. In fact given any point $p in operatornameInt(D)$, there exists a homeomorphism $F: overlinemathbbB^n to D$ that sends $0$ to $p$, $mathbbB^n$ to $operatornameInt(D)$ and $mathbbS^n-1$ to $operatornameBd D$.
Now note that if we let $A subseteq mathbbR^2$ be the (solid) square of side length $2$, then $A$ is easily seen to be a convex subset, and is thus a closed $2$-cell by the theorem above. Moreover the square $Q_2$ is the topological boundary of the solid square $A$ and the theorem above then immediately shows that $operatornameBd(A) = Q_2 cong S^1$ as desired.
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Is your goal to construct a homeomorphism explicitly, or just to prove that the two things are homeomorphic? If the latter, then there are clearly nicer ways to do it than by trying to write down a closed-form expression for a homeomorphism. After all, a guitar shape is clearly homeomorphic to a circle, but there would be little hope of writing down a homeomorphism in closed form.
â Ben Crowell
Jan 29 '12 at 19:51
@BenCrowell, the question says "find a homeomorphism", but, even so, doesn't ask for, as you put it, a "closed-form expression": see e.g. my answer.
â msh210
Jan 29 '12 at 20:03
@BenCrowell: The aim of my question is to determine how to prove the spaces are homeomorphic, although I am also interested in how we can show that the map $r$ is continuous. I agree that finding an explicit function $r^-1$ is unnecessary. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
â Mathmo
Jan 29 '12 at 20:22
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I think it's perhaps easier to apply the closed map lemma to your map and observe that it is a closed continuous bijection, that is a homeomorphism.
â JSchlather
Jan 29 '12 at 20:40
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You actually don't need to prove that $r^-1$ is continuous. Once you show that it exists, you're done because a continuous bijection between compact Hausdorff spaces is a homeomorphism.
â Qiaochu Yuan
Jan 30 '12 at 2:02