Finding a basis of the null space and range of a transformation of polynomial spaces $T: P_2(mathbbR) to P_3(mathbbR)$

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Let $P_n(mathbbR)$ be the collection of polynomials of degree less than or equal to $n$ with real coefficients and $Tcolon P_2(mathbbR) to P_3(mathbbR)$ be given by
$$
Tp(x) = int_0^x p(t),dt - frac12x^2p'(x)
$$



a) Find a basis for $operatornamenull(T)$.



b) Find a basis for $operatornamerange(T)$.



I got basis for $operatornamenull(T)$ as $x$ and range as $x,x^2$.



No idea if that's correct though.



The $p(t),dt$ part confuses me since $T$ is being applied to $p(x)$ are the coefficients in the polynomial the same?



Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.







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    Let $P_n(mathbbR)$ be the collection of polynomials of degree less than or equal to $n$ with real coefficients and $Tcolon P_2(mathbbR) to P_3(mathbbR)$ be given by
    $$
    Tp(x) = int_0^x p(t),dt - frac12x^2p'(x)
    $$



    a) Find a basis for $operatornamenull(T)$.



    b) Find a basis for $operatornamerange(T)$.



    I got basis for $operatornamenull(T)$ as $x$ and range as $x,x^2$.



    No idea if that's correct though.



    The $p(t),dt$ part confuses me since $T$ is being applied to $p(x)$ are the coefficients in the polynomial the same?



    Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.







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      Let $P_n(mathbbR)$ be the collection of polynomials of degree less than or equal to $n$ with real coefficients and $Tcolon P_2(mathbbR) to P_3(mathbbR)$ be given by
      $$
      Tp(x) = int_0^x p(t),dt - frac12x^2p'(x)
      $$



      a) Find a basis for $operatornamenull(T)$.



      b) Find a basis for $operatornamerange(T)$.



      I got basis for $operatornamenull(T)$ as $x$ and range as $x,x^2$.



      No idea if that's correct though.



      The $p(t),dt$ part confuses me since $T$ is being applied to $p(x)$ are the coefficients in the polynomial the same?



      Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.







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      Let $P_n(mathbbR)$ be the collection of polynomials of degree less than or equal to $n$ with real coefficients and $Tcolon P_2(mathbbR) to P_3(mathbbR)$ be given by
      $$
      Tp(x) = int_0^x p(t),dt - frac12x^2p'(x)
      $$



      a) Find a basis for $operatornamenull(T)$.



      b) Find a basis for $operatornamerange(T)$.



      I got basis for $operatornamenull(T)$ as $x$ and range as $x,x^2$.



      No idea if that's correct though.



      The $p(t),dt$ part confuses me since $T$ is being applied to $p(x)$ are the coefficients in the polynomial the same?



      Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers.









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          Let's check if $x$ is in the null space.



          beginalign
          T(x) &= int_0^x t , dt - frac12 x^2 \
          &= fracx^22 - fracx^22 \
          &=0
          endalign



          Let's check for the range,



          beginalign
          T(1) &= int_0^x 1 , dt - frac12x^2 (0) \
          &= x
          endalign



          beginalign
          T(x^2) &= int_0^x t^2 , dt - frac12x^2 (2x) \
          &= fracx^33-x^3
          endalign



          Hence while your basis for the null space is correct, a basis for the range should be $ x, x^3$.



          Note that $T$ is being applied to $p$, the quadratic polynomial. If $p(x)=x^2$, then $p(t)=t^2$.






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          • thats great thanks heaps!
            – Virtual mark
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          The simplest strategy, in my opinion, is working with matrices. The domain and codomain have natural bases, $1,x,x^2$ and $1,x,x^2,x^3$ respectively.



          Let's compute the matrix of $T$ with respect to these bases.



          beginalign
          T(1)&=int_0^x 1,dt-frac12x^2cdot 0=x \[6px]
          T(x)&=int_0^x t,dt-frac12x^2cdot 1=fracx^22-fracx^22=0 \[6px]
          T(x^2)&=int_0^x t^2,dt-frac12x^2cdot 2x=fracx^33-x^3=-frac23x^3
          endalign
          Therefore the matrix we are looking for is
          $$
          A=beginbmatrix
          0 & 0 & 0 \
          1 & 0 & 0 \
          0 & 0 & 0 \
          0 & 0 & -2/3
          endbmatrix
          $$
          This matrix has rank $2$ and the first and third columns are a basis for the column space. Therefore $T(1),T(x^2)=x,-frac23x^3$ is a basis for the range of $T$.



          The null space of $A$ has dimension $1$ (by the rank nullity theorem) and we already know a nonzero vector in the null space, so a basis for the null space of $T$ is $x$.






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            Let's check if $x$ is in the null space.



            beginalign
            T(x) &= int_0^x t , dt - frac12 x^2 \
            &= fracx^22 - fracx^22 \
            &=0
            endalign



            Let's check for the range,



            beginalign
            T(1) &= int_0^x 1 , dt - frac12x^2 (0) \
            &= x
            endalign



            beginalign
            T(x^2) &= int_0^x t^2 , dt - frac12x^2 (2x) \
            &= fracx^33-x^3
            endalign



            Hence while your basis for the null space is correct, a basis for the range should be $ x, x^3$.



            Note that $T$ is being applied to $p$, the quadratic polynomial. If $p(x)=x^2$, then $p(t)=t^2$.






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            • thats great thanks heaps!
              – Virtual mark
              Aug 25 at 11:41














            up vote
            2
            down vote



            accepted










            Let's check if $x$ is in the null space.



            beginalign
            T(x) &= int_0^x t , dt - frac12 x^2 \
            &= fracx^22 - fracx^22 \
            &=0
            endalign



            Let's check for the range,



            beginalign
            T(1) &= int_0^x 1 , dt - frac12x^2 (0) \
            &= x
            endalign



            beginalign
            T(x^2) &= int_0^x t^2 , dt - frac12x^2 (2x) \
            &= fracx^33-x^3
            endalign



            Hence while your basis for the null space is correct, a basis for the range should be $ x, x^3$.



            Note that $T$ is being applied to $p$, the quadratic polynomial. If $p(x)=x^2$, then $p(t)=t^2$.






            share|cite|improve this answer






















            • thats great thanks heaps!
              – Virtual mark
              Aug 25 at 11:41












            up vote
            2
            down vote



            accepted







            up vote
            2
            down vote



            accepted






            Let's check if $x$ is in the null space.



            beginalign
            T(x) &= int_0^x t , dt - frac12 x^2 \
            &= fracx^22 - fracx^22 \
            &=0
            endalign



            Let's check for the range,



            beginalign
            T(1) &= int_0^x 1 , dt - frac12x^2 (0) \
            &= x
            endalign



            beginalign
            T(x^2) &= int_0^x t^2 , dt - frac12x^2 (2x) \
            &= fracx^33-x^3
            endalign



            Hence while your basis for the null space is correct, a basis for the range should be $ x, x^3$.



            Note that $T$ is being applied to $p$, the quadratic polynomial. If $p(x)=x^2$, then $p(t)=t^2$.






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Let's check if $x$ is in the null space.



            beginalign
            T(x) &= int_0^x t , dt - frac12 x^2 \
            &= fracx^22 - fracx^22 \
            &=0
            endalign



            Let's check for the range,



            beginalign
            T(1) &= int_0^x 1 , dt - frac12x^2 (0) \
            &= x
            endalign



            beginalign
            T(x^2) &= int_0^x t^2 , dt - frac12x^2 (2x) \
            &= fracx^33-x^3
            endalign



            Hence while your basis for the null space is correct, a basis for the range should be $ x, x^3$.



            Note that $T$ is being applied to $p$, the quadratic polynomial. If $p(x)=x^2$, then $p(t)=t^2$.







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            • thats great thanks heaps!
              – Virtual mark
              Aug 25 at 11:41
















            • thats great thanks heaps!
              – Virtual mark
              Aug 25 at 11:41















            thats great thanks heaps!
            – Virtual mark
            Aug 25 at 11:41




            thats great thanks heaps!
            – Virtual mark
            Aug 25 at 11:41










            up vote
            1
            down vote













            The simplest strategy, in my opinion, is working with matrices. The domain and codomain have natural bases, $1,x,x^2$ and $1,x,x^2,x^3$ respectively.



            Let's compute the matrix of $T$ with respect to these bases.



            beginalign
            T(1)&=int_0^x 1,dt-frac12x^2cdot 0=x \[6px]
            T(x)&=int_0^x t,dt-frac12x^2cdot 1=fracx^22-fracx^22=0 \[6px]
            T(x^2)&=int_0^x t^2,dt-frac12x^2cdot 2x=fracx^33-x^3=-frac23x^3
            endalign
            Therefore the matrix we are looking for is
            $$
            A=beginbmatrix
            0 & 0 & 0 \
            1 & 0 & 0 \
            0 & 0 & 0 \
            0 & 0 & -2/3
            endbmatrix
            $$
            This matrix has rank $2$ and the first and third columns are a basis for the column space. Therefore $T(1),T(x^2)=x,-frac23x^3$ is a basis for the range of $T$.



            The null space of $A$ has dimension $1$ (by the rank nullity theorem) and we already know a nonzero vector in the null space, so a basis for the null space of $T$ is $x$.






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              down vote













              The simplest strategy, in my opinion, is working with matrices. The domain and codomain have natural bases, $1,x,x^2$ and $1,x,x^2,x^3$ respectively.



              Let's compute the matrix of $T$ with respect to these bases.



              beginalign
              T(1)&=int_0^x 1,dt-frac12x^2cdot 0=x \[6px]
              T(x)&=int_0^x t,dt-frac12x^2cdot 1=fracx^22-fracx^22=0 \[6px]
              T(x^2)&=int_0^x t^2,dt-frac12x^2cdot 2x=fracx^33-x^3=-frac23x^3
              endalign
              Therefore the matrix we are looking for is
              $$
              A=beginbmatrix
              0 & 0 & 0 \
              1 & 0 & 0 \
              0 & 0 & 0 \
              0 & 0 & -2/3
              endbmatrix
              $$
              This matrix has rank $2$ and the first and third columns are a basis for the column space. Therefore $T(1),T(x^2)=x,-frac23x^3$ is a basis for the range of $T$.



              The null space of $A$ has dimension $1$ (by the rank nullity theorem) and we already know a nonzero vector in the null space, so a basis for the null space of $T$ is $x$.






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                The simplest strategy, in my opinion, is working with matrices. The domain and codomain have natural bases, $1,x,x^2$ and $1,x,x^2,x^3$ respectively.



                Let's compute the matrix of $T$ with respect to these bases.



                beginalign
                T(1)&=int_0^x 1,dt-frac12x^2cdot 0=x \[6px]
                T(x)&=int_0^x t,dt-frac12x^2cdot 1=fracx^22-fracx^22=0 \[6px]
                T(x^2)&=int_0^x t^2,dt-frac12x^2cdot 2x=fracx^33-x^3=-frac23x^3
                endalign
                Therefore the matrix we are looking for is
                $$
                A=beginbmatrix
                0 & 0 & 0 \
                1 & 0 & 0 \
                0 & 0 & 0 \
                0 & 0 & -2/3
                endbmatrix
                $$
                This matrix has rank $2$ and the first and third columns are a basis for the column space. Therefore $T(1),T(x^2)=x,-frac23x^3$ is a basis for the range of $T$.



                The null space of $A$ has dimension $1$ (by the rank nullity theorem) and we already know a nonzero vector in the null space, so a basis for the null space of $T$ is $x$.






                share|cite|improve this answer












                The simplest strategy, in my opinion, is working with matrices. The domain and codomain have natural bases, $1,x,x^2$ and $1,x,x^2,x^3$ respectively.



                Let's compute the matrix of $T$ with respect to these bases.



                beginalign
                T(1)&=int_0^x 1,dt-frac12x^2cdot 0=x \[6px]
                T(x)&=int_0^x t,dt-frac12x^2cdot 1=fracx^22-fracx^22=0 \[6px]
                T(x^2)&=int_0^x t^2,dt-frac12x^2cdot 2x=fracx^33-x^3=-frac23x^3
                endalign
                Therefore the matrix we are looking for is
                $$
                A=beginbmatrix
                0 & 0 & 0 \
                1 & 0 & 0 \
                0 & 0 & 0 \
                0 & 0 & -2/3
                endbmatrix
                $$
                This matrix has rank $2$ and the first and third columns are a basis for the column space. Therefore $T(1),T(x^2)=x,-frac23x^3$ is a basis for the range of $T$.



                The null space of $A$ has dimension $1$ (by the rank nullity theorem) and we already know a nonzero vector in the null space, so a basis for the null space of $T$ is $x$.







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