Simpler way of solving $int z(ln z)^2, dz $

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The following answer to the question $$int z(ln z)^2, dz $$ is given by



$$frac12(z^2(ln z)^2-z^2(ln z)+ fracz^22)+ C. $$



I first used a substitution of $u=z ln z$ as $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly (and so Integration by parts is inapplicable), reducing the integral to $$int z ln z (ln z+1) , dz - int z ln z , dz.$$



Still, $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly so did a 2nd substitution of $y= ln z$ which will reduce the integral(after applying both substitutions) into $$int u,du - int y e^2y , dy$$ Then I proceeded with Integration by parts.



If the power of $ln z$ was any larger, it would be tedious to use n substitutions and then proceed with integration by parts. Does anyone have an alternative solution to this problem?







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    The following answer to the question $$int z(ln z)^2, dz $$ is given by



    $$frac12(z^2(ln z)^2-z^2(ln z)+ fracz^22)+ C. $$



    I first used a substitution of $u=z ln z$ as $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly (and so Integration by parts is inapplicable), reducing the integral to $$int z ln z (ln z+1) , dz - int z ln z , dz.$$



    Still, $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly so did a 2nd substitution of $y= ln z$ which will reduce the integral(after applying both substitutions) into $$int u,du - int y e^2y , dy$$ Then I proceeded with Integration by parts.



    If the power of $ln z$ was any larger, it would be tedious to use n substitutions and then proceed with integration by parts. Does anyone have an alternative solution to this problem?







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      The following answer to the question $$int z(ln z)^2, dz $$ is given by



      $$frac12(z^2(ln z)^2-z^2(ln z)+ fracz^22)+ C. $$



      I first used a substitution of $u=z ln z$ as $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly (and so Integration by parts is inapplicable), reducing the integral to $$int z ln z (ln z+1) , dz - int z ln z , dz.$$



      Still, $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly so did a 2nd substitution of $y= ln z$ which will reduce the integral(after applying both substitutions) into $$int u,du - int y e^2y , dy$$ Then I proceeded with Integration by parts.



      If the power of $ln z$ was any larger, it would be tedious to use n substitutions and then proceed with integration by parts. Does anyone have an alternative solution to this problem?







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      The following answer to the question $$int z(ln z)^2, dz $$ is given by



      $$frac12(z^2(ln z)^2-z^2(ln z)+ fracz^22)+ C. $$



      I first used a substitution of $u=z ln z$ as $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly (and so Integration by parts is inapplicable), reducing the integral to $$int z ln z (ln z+1) , dz - int z ln z , dz.$$



      Still, $ln z$ cannot be integrated cleanly so did a 2nd substitution of $y= ln z$ which will reduce the integral(after applying both substitutions) into $$int u,du - int y e^2y , dy$$ Then I proceeded with Integration by parts.



      If the power of $ln z$ was any larger, it would be tedious to use n substitutions and then proceed with integration by parts. Does anyone have an alternative solution to this problem?









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          $$I=displaystyleintxln^2left(xright),mathrmdx$$
          Integration by parts



          $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$



          $$I_1=displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$
          again apply integration by parts



          $$I_1=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-displaystyleintdfracx2,mathrmdx=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-dfracx^24$$




          $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2+dfracx^24+C$$







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            With substitution $ln z=u$ or $z=e^u$ then
            $$I=int zln^2z dz=int e^2uu^2 du$$
            let $2u=w$ and use the formula $displaystyleint e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ where $p$ is a polynomial therefore
            $$I=dfrac18int e^ww^2 dw=dfrac18e^wleft(w^2-2w+2right)+C=colorbluedfrac18z^2left(4ln^2z-4ln z+2right)+C$$






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            • Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
              – Prashin Jeevaganth
              Aug 18 at 8:02










            • If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
              – Nosrati
              Aug 18 at 8:11










            • Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
              – Prashin Jeevaganth
              Aug 18 at 8:41










            • Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
              – Nosrati
              Aug 18 at 8:46










            • Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
              – Prashin Jeevaganth
              Aug 18 at 8:48










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            $$I=displaystyleintxln^2left(xright),mathrmdx$$
            Integration by parts



            $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$



            $$I_1=displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$
            again apply integration by parts



            $$I_1=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-displaystyleintdfracx2,mathrmdx=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-dfracx^24$$




            $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2+dfracx^24+C$$







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              $$I=displaystyleintxln^2left(xright),mathrmdx$$
              Integration by parts



              $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$



              $$I_1=displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$
              again apply integration by parts



              $$I_1=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-displaystyleintdfracx2,mathrmdx=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-dfracx^24$$




              $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2+dfracx^24+C$$







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                up vote
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                up vote
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                accepted






                $$I=displaystyleintxln^2left(xright),mathrmdx$$
                Integration by parts



                $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$



                $$I_1=displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$
                again apply integration by parts



                $$I_1=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-displaystyleintdfracx2,mathrmdx=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-dfracx^24$$




                $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2+dfracx^24+C$$







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                $$I=displaystyleintxln^2left(xright),mathrmdx$$
                Integration by parts



                $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$



                $$I_1=displaystyleintxlnleft(xright),mathrmdx$$
                again apply integration by parts



                $$I_1=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-displaystyleintdfracx2,mathrmdx=dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2-dfracx^24$$




                $$I=dfracx^2ln^2left(xright)2-dfracx^2lnleft(xright)2+dfracx^24+C$$








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                    With substitution $ln z=u$ or $z=e^u$ then
                    $$I=int zln^2z dz=int e^2uu^2 du$$
                    let $2u=w$ and use the formula $displaystyleint e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ where $p$ is a polynomial therefore
                    $$I=dfrac18int e^ww^2 dw=dfrac18e^wleft(w^2-2w+2right)+C=colorbluedfrac18z^2left(4ln^2z-4ln z+2right)+C$$






                    share|cite|improve this answer




















                    • Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:02










                    • If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:11










                    • Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:41










                    • Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:46










                    • Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:48














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                    With substitution $ln z=u$ or $z=e^u$ then
                    $$I=int zln^2z dz=int e^2uu^2 du$$
                    let $2u=w$ and use the formula $displaystyleint e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ where $p$ is a polynomial therefore
                    $$I=dfrac18int e^ww^2 dw=dfrac18e^wleft(w^2-2w+2right)+C=colorbluedfrac18z^2left(4ln^2z-4ln z+2right)+C$$






                    share|cite|improve this answer




















                    • Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:02










                    • If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:11










                    • Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:41










                    • Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:46










                    • Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:48












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                    With substitution $ln z=u$ or $z=e^u$ then
                    $$I=int zln^2z dz=int e^2uu^2 du$$
                    let $2u=w$ and use the formula $displaystyleint e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ where $p$ is a polynomial therefore
                    $$I=dfrac18int e^ww^2 dw=dfrac18e^wleft(w^2-2w+2right)+C=colorbluedfrac18z^2left(4ln^2z-4ln z+2right)+C$$






                    share|cite|improve this answer












                    With substitution $ln z=u$ or $z=e^u$ then
                    $$I=int zln^2z dz=int e^2uu^2 du$$
                    let $2u=w$ and use the formula $displaystyleint e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ where $p$ is a polynomial therefore
                    $$I=dfrac18int e^ww^2 dw=dfrac18e^wleft(w^2-2w+2right)+C=colorbluedfrac18z^2left(4ln^2z-4ln z+2right)+C$$







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                    • Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:02










                    • If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:11










                    • Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:41










                    • Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:46










                    • Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:48
















                    • Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:02










                    • If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:11










                    • Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:41










                    • Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                      – Nosrati
                      Aug 18 at 8:46










                    • Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
                      – Prashin Jeevaganth
                      Aug 18 at 8:48















                    Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                    – Prashin Jeevaganth
                    Aug 18 at 8:02




                    Hi, cool answer u have, may I know where u get these results from? I could see why that formula is valid, just want to know where I could find more of these results.
                    – Prashin Jeevaganth
                    Aug 18 at 8:02












                    If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                    – Nosrati
                    Aug 18 at 8:11




                    If you mean $int e^tp(t)dt=e^t(p-p'+p''-cdots)+C$ it is proved with integration by parts (I've got it from simmons calculus book). you may find many useful formulas in this site!
                    – Nosrati
                    Aug 18 at 8:11












                    Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                    – Prashin Jeevaganth
                    Aug 18 at 8:41




                    Ok, I will try to keep track of the formulae on this site, by the way do u mean the book titled "Calculus with Analytic Geometry"?
                    – Prashin Jeevaganth
                    Aug 18 at 8:41












                    Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                    – Nosrati
                    Aug 18 at 8:46




                    Yes. It is. I read it 25 years ago, but in new editions (?) I don't know this formula is or not.
                    – Nosrati
                    Aug 18 at 8:46












                    Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
                    – Prashin Jeevaganth
                    Aug 18 at 8:48




                    Ok thanks anyway, will look it up.
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                    Aug 18 at 8:48












                     

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