Question regarding Rudin's proof that for $Y subset X$, $E subset Y$ is open relative to $Y$ iff $E = Y cap G$ for some open $G subset X$
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I am reading Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis and I have some questions regarding Theorem 2.30 (p.36) about open relative sets.
2.30 Theorem. Suppose $Y subset X$. A subset $E$ of $Y$ is open relative to $Y$ if and only if $E = Y cap G$ for some open subset $G$ of $X$.
Proof. Suppose $E$ is open relative to $Y$. To each $p in E$ there is a positive number $r_p$ such that the conditions $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, $q in Y$ imply that $q in E$. Let $V_p$ be the set of all $q in X$ such that $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, and define $$G = bigcup_p in E V_p.$$ Then $G$ is an open subset of $X$, by Theorems 2.19 and 2.24.
Since $p in V_p$ for all $p in E$, it is clear that $E subset G cap Y$.
By our choice of $V_p$, we have $V_p cap Y subset E$ for every $p in E$, so that $G cap Y subset E$. Thus $E = G cap Y$, and one half of the theorem is proved.
Conversely, if $G$ is open in $X$ and $E = G cap Y$, every $p in E$ has a neighborhood $V_p subset G$. Then $V_p cap Y subset E$, so that $E$ is open relative to $Y$.
The question is: after Rudin defines $G$, he immediately states that $G$ is open in $X$, by Theorems 2.19 (every neighborhood is an open set) and 2.24 (every union of open sets is an open set). By Theorem 2.24 I know that the union of open sets is still an open set. However, I don't know how Theorem 2.19 applies in this situation and thus implies $V_p$ is open. Because $V_p$ is a set of all $q$, not $p$, if it is the set of all $p$, I know it must be open.
Can somebody please help me explain why $G$ is open? And please be very specific.
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I am reading Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis and I have some questions regarding Theorem 2.30 (p.36) about open relative sets.
2.30 Theorem. Suppose $Y subset X$. A subset $E$ of $Y$ is open relative to $Y$ if and only if $E = Y cap G$ for some open subset $G$ of $X$.
Proof. Suppose $E$ is open relative to $Y$. To each $p in E$ there is a positive number $r_p$ such that the conditions $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, $q in Y$ imply that $q in E$. Let $V_p$ be the set of all $q in X$ such that $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, and define $$G = bigcup_p in E V_p.$$ Then $G$ is an open subset of $X$, by Theorems 2.19 and 2.24.
Since $p in V_p$ for all $p in E$, it is clear that $E subset G cap Y$.
By our choice of $V_p$, we have $V_p cap Y subset E$ for every $p in E$, so that $G cap Y subset E$. Thus $E = G cap Y$, and one half of the theorem is proved.
Conversely, if $G$ is open in $X$ and $E = G cap Y$, every $p in E$ has a neighborhood $V_p subset G$. Then $V_p cap Y subset E$, so that $E$ is open relative to $Y$.
The question is: after Rudin defines $G$, he immediately states that $G$ is open in $X$, by Theorems 2.19 (every neighborhood is an open set) and 2.24 (every union of open sets is an open set). By Theorem 2.24 I know that the union of open sets is still an open set. However, I don't know how Theorem 2.19 applies in this situation and thus implies $V_p$ is open. Because $V_p$ is a set of all $q$, not $p$, if it is the set of all $p$, I know it must be open.
Can somebody please help me explain why $G$ is open? And please be very specific.
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I am reading Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis and I have some questions regarding Theorem 2.30 (p.36) about open relative sets.
2.30 Theorem. Suppose $Y subset X$. A subset $E$ of $Y$ is open relative to $Y$ if and only if $E = Y cap G$ for some open subset $G$ of $X$.
Proof. Suppose $E$ is open relative to $Y$. To each $p in E$ there is a positive number $r_p$ such that the conditions $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, $q in Y$ imply that $q in E$. Let $V_p$ be the set of all $q in X$ such that $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, and define $$G = bigcup_p in E V_p.$$ Then $G$ is an open subset of $X$, by Theorems 2.19 and 2.24.
Since $p in V_p$ for all $p in E$, it is clear that $E subset G cap Y$.
By our choice of $V_p$, we have $V_p cap Y subset E$ for every $p in E$, so that $G cap Y subset E$. Thus $E = G cap Y$, and one half of the theorem is proved.
Conversely, if $G$ is open in $X$ and $E = G cap Y$, every $p in E$ has a neighborhood $V_p subset G$. Then $V_p cap Y subset E$, so that $E$ is open relative to $Y$.
The question is: after Rudin defines $G$, he immediately states that $G$ is open in $X$, by Theorems 2.19 (every neighborhood is an open set) and 2.24 (every union of open sets is an open set). By Theorem 2.24 I know that the union of open sets is still an open set. However, I don't know how Theorem 2.19 applies in this situation and thus implies $V_p$ is open. Because $V_p$ is a set of all $q$, not $p$, if it is the set of all $p$, I know it must be open.
Can somebody please help me explain why $G$ is open? And please be very specific.
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces
I am reading Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis and I have some questions regarding Theorem 2.30 (p.36) about open relative sets.
2.30 Theorem. Suppose $Y subset X$. A subset $E$ of $Y$ is open relative to $Y$ if and only if $E = Y cap G$ for some open subset $G$ of $X$.
Proof. Suppose $E$ is open relative to $Y$. To each $p in E$ there is a positive number $r_p$ such that the conditions $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, $q in Y$ imply that $q in E$. Let $V_p$ be the set of all $q in X$ such that $d ( p,q ) < r_p$, and define $$G = bigcup_p in E V_p.$$ Then $G$ is an open subset of $X$, by Theorems 2.19 and 2.24.
Since $p in V_p$ for all $p in E$, it is clear that $E subset G cap Y$.
By our choice of $V_p$, we have $V_p cap Y subset E$ for every $p in E$, so that $G cap Y subset E$. Thus $E = G cap Y$, and one half of the theorem is proved.
Conversely, if $G$ is open in $X$ and $E = G cap Y$, every $p in E$ has a neighborhood $V_p subset G$. Then $V_p cap Y subset E$, so that $E$ is open relative to $Y$.
The question is: after Rudin defines $G$, he immediately states that $G$ is open in $X$, by Theorems 2.19 (every neighborhood is an open set) and 2.24 (every union of open sets is an open set). By Theorem 2.24 I know that the union of open sets is still an open set. However, I don't know how Theorem 2.19 applies in this situation and thus implies $V_p$ is open. Because $V_p$ is a set of all $q$, not $p$, if it is the set of all $p$, I know it must be open.
Can somebody please help me explain why $G$ is open? And please be very specific.
real-analysis general-topology metric-spaces
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$V_p$ is a ball-neighbourhood (he states the definition for it: all $q in X$ such that $d(p,q) < r_p$, so it's just the open ball with centre $p$ and radius $r_p$), so it's open by 2.19.
And $G$ is just a union of these open sets, hence open too.
Understood. Thanks!
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$V_p$ is a ball-neighbourhood (he states the definition for it: all $q in X$ such that $d(p,q) < r_p$, so it's just the open ball with centre $p$ and radius $r_p$), so it's open by 2.19.
And $G$ is just a union of these open sets, hence open too.
Understood. Thanks!
â Yunhan
Aug 18 at 10:53
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$V_p$ is a ball-neighbourhood (he states the definition for it: all $q in X$ such that $d(p,q) < r_p$, so it's just the open ball with centre $p$ and radius $r_p$), so it's open by 2.19.
And $G$ is just a union of these open sets, hence open too.
Understood. Thanks!
â Yunhan
Aug 18 at 10:53
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up vote
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up vote
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$V_p$ is a ball-neighbourhood (he states the definition for it: all $q in X$ such that $d(p,q) < r_p$, so it's just the open ball with centre $p$ and radius $r_p$), so it's open by 2.19.
And $G$ is just a union of these open sets, hence open too.
$V_p$ is a ball-neighbourhood (he states the definition for it: all $q in X$ such that $d(p,q) < r_p$, so it's just the open ball with centre $p$ and radius $r_p$), so it's open by 2.19.
And $G$ is just a union of these open sets, hence open too.
answered Aug 18 at 9:22
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Understood. Thanks!
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Understood. Thanks!
â Yunhan
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Understood. Thanks!
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Understood. Thanks!
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