Prove $forall x,y in mathbbR :lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloorâ¨lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloor+1$
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Prove
$âÂÂx,y (x,yin mathbbR: lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloorâ¨lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloor+1)$
So, I let
$lfloorxrfloor=m â¡ mâ¤x<m+1$
$lflooryrfloor=n â¡ nâ¤y<n+1$
Now, I have that $m+nâ¤x+y<m+n+2$
... And I get stuck in here.
I found this proof over the the internet:
Let $[x] = m$ and $[y] = n$, then we have $$ m leq x < m + 1 quad
> textand quad n leq y < n + 1.$$ So, adding, we obtain, $$ m+n
> leq x+y < m+n+2.$$ Thus, $$ [x+y] = m+n = [x] + [y] quad textor
quad [x+y] = m+n+1 = [x] + [y] + 1.$$
Which seems to state that where I am is sufficient to conclude the theorem, however I don't see how,because it escalates too quickly.
How do you think i should follow?
Thanks in advance.
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Prove
$âÂÂx,y (x,yin mathbbR: lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloorâ¨lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloor+1)$
So, I let
$lfloorxrfloor=m â¡ mâ¤x<m+1$
$lflooryrfloor=n â¡ nâ¤y<n+1$
Now, I have that $m+nâ¤x+y<m+n+2$
... And I get stuck in here.
I found this proof over the the internet:
Let $[x] = m$ and $[y] = n$, then we have $$ m leq x < m + 1 quad
> textand quad n leq y < n + 1.$$ So, adding, we obtain, $$ m+n
> leq x+y < m+n+2.$$ Thus, $$ [x+y] = m+n = [x] + [y] quad textor
quad [x+y] = m+n+1 = [x] + [y] + 1.$$
Which seems to state that where I am is sufficient to conclude the theorem, however I don't see how,because it escalates too quickly.
How do you think i should follow?
Thanks in advance.
algebra-precalculus functions floor-function
I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
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Aug 19 at 5:47
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Prove
$âÂÂx,y (x,yin mathbbR: lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloorâ¨lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloor+1)$
So, I let
$lfloorxrfloor=m â¡ mâ¤x<m+1$
$lflooryrfloor=n â¡ nâ¤y<n+1$
Now, I have that $m+nâ¤x+y<m+n+2$
... And I get stuck in here.
I found this proof over the the internet:
Let $[x] = m$ and $[y] = n$, then we have $$ m leq x < m + 1 quad
> textand quad n leq y < n + 1.$$ So, adding, we obtain, $$ m+n
> leq x+y < m+n+2.$$ Thus, $$ [x+y] = m+n = [x] + [y] quad textor
quad [x+y] = m+n+1 = [x] + [y] + 1.$$
Which seems to state that where I am is sufficient to conclude the theorem, however I don't see how,because it escalates too quickly.
How do you think i should follow?
Thanks in advance.
algebra-precalculus functions floor-function
Prove
$âÂÂx,y (x,yin mathbbR: lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloorâ¨lfloorx+yrfloor=lfloorxrfloor+lflooryrfloor+1)$
So, I let
$lfloorxrfloor=m â¡ mâ¤x<m+1$
$lflooryrfloor=n â¡ nâ¤y<n+1$
Now, I have that $m+nâ¤x+y<m+n+2$
... And I get stuck in here.
I found this proof over the the internet:
Let $[x] = m$ and $[y] = n$, then we have $$ m leq x < m + 1 quad
> textand quad n leq y < n + 1.$$ So, adding, we obtain, $$ m+n
> leq x+y < m+n+2.$$ Thus, $$ [x+y] = m+n = [x] + [y] quad textor
quad [x+y] = m+n+1 = [x] + [y] + 1.$$
Which seems to state that where I am is sufficient to conclude the theorem, however I don't see how,because it escalates too quickly.
How do you think i should follow?
Thanks in advance.
algebra-precalculus functions floor-function
edited Aug 18 at 8:29
Andrew
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asked Aug 18 at 2:58
Daniel Bonilla Jaramillo
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I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
â Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 19 at 5:47
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I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
â Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 19 at 5:47
I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
â Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 19 at 5:47
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
â Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 19 at 5:47
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Hint:
How many $k in mathbbZ$ are there such that
$m + n leq k < m + n + 2$
and what are they? Now, what does this, along with the fact that
$m + n leq x + y < m + n + 2$
tell you about $lfloor x + y rfloor $?
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Remark that if $a = lfloor x+y rfloor$, then the inequalities $$a leq x+y < a+1$$ can be rearranged as $$x+y-1 < a leq x+y$$ Do you see how combining this with $$m+n leq x+y < m+n+2$$ gives you the possible values of $a$?
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Perhaps one may add that either $x+y<m+n+1$ or $m+n+1 leq x+y$, from which the result readily follows.
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
2
down vote
Hint:
How many $k in mathbbZ$ are there such that
$m + n leq k < m + n + 2$
and what are they? Now, what does this, along with the fact that
$m + n leq x + y < m + n + 2$
tell you about $lfloor x + y rfloor $?
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Hint:
How many $k in mathbbZ$ are there such that
$m + n leq k < m + n + 2$
and what are they? Now, what does this, along with the fact that
$m + n leq x + y < m + n + 2$
tell you about $lfloor x + y rfloor $?
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Hint:
How many $k in mathbbZ$ are there such that
$m + n leq k < m + n + 2$
and what are they? Now, what does this, along with the fact that
$m + n leq x + y < m + n + 2$
tell you about $lfloor x + y rfloor $?
Hint:
How many $k in mathbbZ$ are there such that
$m + n leq k < m + n + 2$
and what are they? Now, what does this, along with the fact that
$m + n leq x + y < m + n + 2$
tell you about $lfloor x + y rfloor $?
edited Aug 18 at 4:18
answered Aug 18 at 3:58
matt stokes
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Remark that if $a = lfloor x+y rfloor$, then the inequalities $$a leq x+y < a+1$$ can be rearranged as $$x+y-1 < a leq x+y$$ Do you see how combining this with $$m+n leq x+y < m+n+2$$ gives you the possible values of $a$?
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Remark that if $a = lfloor x+y rfloor$, then the inequalities $$a leq x+y < a+1$$ can be rearranged as $$x+y-1 < a leq x+y$$ Do you see how combining this with $$m+n leq x+y < m+n+2$$ gives you the possible values of $a$?
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
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up vote
1
down vote
Remark that if $a = lfloor x+y rfloor$, then the inequalities $$a leq x+y < a+1$$ can be rearranged as $$x+y-1 < a leq x+y$$ Do you see how combining this with $$m+n leq x+y < m+n+2$$ gives you the possible values of $a$?
Remark that if $a = lfloor x+y rfloor$, then the inequalities $$a leq x+y < a+1$$ can be rearranged as $$x+y-1 < a leq x+y$$ Do you see how combining this with $$m+n leq x+y < m+n+2$$ gives you the possible values of $a$?
answered Aug 18 at 3:20
Sambo
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Perhaps one may add that either $x+y<m+n+1$ or $m+n+1 leq x+y$, from which the result readily follows.
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Perhaps one may add that either $x+y<m+n+1$ or $m+n+1 leq x+y$, from which the result readily follows.
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Perhaps one may add that either $x+y<m+n+1$ or $m+n+1 leq x+y$, from which the result readily follows.
Perhaps one may add that either $x+y<m+n+1$ or $m+n+1 leq x+y$, from which the result readily follows.
answered Aug 18 at 18:20
SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
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This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
add a comment |Â
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
This does not provide an answer to the question. To critique or request clarification from an author, leave a comment below their post. - From Review
â Adrian Keister
Aug 18 at 19:59
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
It is a simple fact that the OP may have overlooked that directs him straight to the desired conclusion, right from where he is/was stuck.
â SEBASTIAN VARGAS LOAIZA
Aug 18 at 22:20
add a comment |Â
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I suggest to use Latex, if you can.
â peterh
Aug 18 at 7:40
Is the following clear to you? If $nle z <n+2$ then either $nle z<n+1$ or $n+1le z<n+2$. If not, think about it. Draw the number line, and place the numbers $n,n+1,n+2$ on it. Then check out where $z$ may land?
â Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 19 at 5:47