Do we Desire out of Hope or we Hope out of Desire? [closed]
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Just for an example consider the following specific scenerio:
If I desire that I want a million dollars in few years, is that out of hope of better future.
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I hope of a better future, because I am desiring a million dollars in near future.
But thinking in terms of general scenarios in our life answer the question:
Considering the standard dictionary definitions, what is the primal force, Hope or Desire?
existence existentialism
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Just for an example consider the following specific scenerio:
If I desire that I want a million dollars in few years, is that out of hope of better future.
OR
I hope of a better future, because I am desiring a million dollars in near future.
But thinking in terms of general scenarios in our life answer the question:
Considering the standard dictionary definitions, what is the primal force, Hope or Desire?
existence existentialism
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
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closed as primarily opinion-based by Swami Vishwananda, Frank Hubeny, Conifold, Mark Andrews, Geoffrey Thomas Aug 25 at 9:43
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19
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Just for an example consider the following specific scenerio:
If I desire that I want a million dollars in few years, is that out of hope of better future.
OR
I hope of a better future, because I am desiring a million dollars in near future.
But thinking in terms of general scenarios in our life answer the question:
Considering the standard dictionary definitions, what is the primal force, Hope or Desire?
existence existentialism
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
1326
Just for an example consider the following specific scenerio:
If I desire that I want a million dollars in few years, is that out of hope of better future.
OR
I hope of a better future, because I am desiring a million dollars in near future.
But thinking in terms of general scenarios in our life answer the question:
Considering the standard dictionary definitions, what is the primal force, Hope or Desire?
existence existentialism
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
1326
edited Aug 18 at 7:02
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
1326
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
1326
asked Aug 18 at 4:29
Friedrick Nietzsche
1326
1326
closed as primarily opinion-based by Swami Vishwananda, Frank Hubeny, Conifold, Mark Andrews, Geoffrey Thomas Aug 25 at 9:43
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as primarily opinion-based by Swami Vishwananda, Frank Hubeny, Conifold, Mark Andrews, Geoffrey Thomas Aug 25 at 9:43
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19
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Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19
Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19
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First some quick dictionary definitions:
Desire: a strong feeling of wanting something or wishing for something to happen
Hope: a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen
The key difference seems to be that hope is desire AND expectation. Hope appears to include a sense of moving towards what one desires (whether by our own will or effort, by luck or some external force). Desire without hope, on the other hand, can lead to despair or anger.
One can desire a million dollars for reasons other than hope for a better future, and can hope for a better future by desiring something other than a million dollars.
The connection created between hoping for a better future and desiring a million dollars, then, is an arbitrary one. The primal force here is not necessarily hope or desire, but perhaps fear that the only way to a better future is with a million dollars.
I desire a million dollars and I also hope for it whenever I check my lottery ticket - but I'm under no illusions that it will necessarily lead to a better future.
Likewise I desire a better future and I hope for it when I get up to go to work each morning, when I make decisions about my future (including paying for a lottery ticket), and whenever I strive to teach my children or otherwise make an impact on the world around me. I understand that there are many ways to a better future.
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First some quick dictionary definitions:
Desire: a strong feeling of wanting something or wishing for something to happen
Hope: a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen
The key difference seems to be that hope is desire AND expectation. Hope appears to include a sense of moving towards what one desires (whether by our own will or effort, by luck or some external force). Desire without hope, on the other hand, can lead to despair or anger.
One can desire a million dollars for reasons other than hope for a better future, and can hope for a better future by desiring something other than a million dollars.
The connection created between hoping for a better future and desiring a million dollars, then, is an arbitrary one. The primal force here is not necessarily hope or desire, but perhaps fear that the only way to a better future is with a million dollars.
I desire a million dollars and I also hope for it whenever I check my lottery ticket - but I'm under no illusions that it will necessarily lead to a better future.
Likewise I desire a better future and I hope for it when I get up to go to work each morning, when I make decisions about my future (including paying for a lottery ticket), and whenever I strive to teach my children or otherwise make an impact on the world around me. I understand that there are many ways to a better future.
answered Aug 18 at 6:43
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First some quick dictionary definitions:
Desire: a strong feeling of wanting something or wishing for something to happen
Hope: a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen
The key difference seems to be that hope is desire AND expectation. Hope appears to include a sense of moving towards what one desires (whether by our own will or effort, by luck or some external force). Desire without hope, on the other hand, can lead to despair or anger.
One can desire a million dollars for reasons other than hope for a better future, and can hope for a better future by desiring something other than a million dollars.
The connection created between hoping for a better future and desiring a million dollars, then, is an arbitrary one. The primal force here is not necessarily hope or desire, but perhaps fear that the only way to a better future is with a million dollars.
I desire a million dollars and I also hope for it whenever I check my lottery ticket - but I'm under no illusions that it will necessarily lead to a better future.
Likewise I desire a better future and I hope for it when I get up to go to work each morning, when I make decisions about my future (including paying for a lottery ticket), and whenever I strive to teach my children or otherwise make an impact on the world around me. I understand that there are many ways to a better future.
answered Aug 18 at 6:43
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up vote
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First some quick dictionary definitions:
Desire: a strong feeling of wanting something or wishing for something to happen
Hope: a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen
The key difference seems to be that hope is desire AND expectation. Hope appears to include a sense of moving towards what one desires (whether by our own will or effort, by luck or some external force). Desire without hope, on the other hand, can lead to despair or anger.
One can desire a million dollars for reasons other than hope for a better future, and can hope for a better future by desiring something other than a million dollars.
The connection created between hoping for a better future and desiring a million dollars, then, is an arbitrary one. The primal force here is not necessarily hope or desire, but perhaps fear that the only way to a better future is with a million dollars.
I desire a million dollars and I also hope for it whenever I check my lottery ticket - but I'm under no illusions that it will necessarily lead to a better future.
Likewise I desire a better future and I hope for it when I get up to go to work each morning, when I make decisions about my future (including paying for a lottery ticket), and whenever I strive to teach my children or otherwise make an impact on the world around me. I understand that there are many ways to a better future.
answered Aug 18 at 6:43
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First some quick dictionary definitions:
Desire: a strong feeling of wanting something or wishing for something to happen
Hope: a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen
The key difference seems to be that hope is desire AND expectation. Hope appears to include a sense of moving towards what one desires (whether by our own will or effort, by luck or some external force). Desire without hope, on the other hand, can lead to despair or anger.
One can desire a million dollars for reasons other than hope for a better future, and can hope for a better future by desiring something other than a million dollars.
The connection created between hoping for a better future and desiring a million dollars, then, is an arbitrary one. The primal force here is not necessarily hope or desire, but perhaps fear that the only way to a better future is with a million dollars.
I desire a million dollars and I also hope for it whenever I check my lottery ticket - but I'm under no illusions that it will necessarily lead to a better future.
Likewise I desire a better future and I hope for it when I get up to go to work each morning, when I make decisions about my future (including paying for a lottery ticket), and whenever I strive to teach my children or otherwise make an impact on the world around me. I understand that there are many ways to a better future.
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Why does one have to be more basic than the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 11:28
@Canyon IMO they are not independent. One must preceed the other.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 11:30
They're certainly not independent, but why does one have to precede the other?
– Canyon
Aug 18 at 13:04
@Canyon i dont know....may be you can provide an answer why they are on the same level of something also i dont know.
– Friedrick Nietzsche
Aug 18 at 13:08
Vague questions such as yours that are prone to inviting personal opinions are not really suitable for our format, we take more pointed questions that are more or less objectively answerable based on existing literature.
– Conifold
Aug 19 at 0:19