The set of morphism from a tensor product to an certain ring

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When we try to prove the existence of fibre product in affine case, we use the following formula stacks project:
$$newcommandHommathrmHomnewcommandMormathrmHomnewcommandSpecmathrmSpec
begineqnarray
Mor(X, Spec(A otimes_R B))& = &
Hom(A otimes_R B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = &Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))
times_Hom(R, mathcalO_X(X))
Hom(B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = & Mor(X, Spec(A))times_Mor(X, Spec(R))Mor(X, Spec(B))
endeqnarray
$$
My questions are:
I don't know how do we derive the second formula.
Moreover, some part of the third equality is also confusing to me. I know
$$Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))=Mor(X, Spec(A))$$
But what does the "fibre product" (in category of sets) notation mean?
abstract-algebra algebraic-geometry category-theory tensor-products
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When we try to prove the existence of fibre product in affine case, we use the following formula stacks project:
$$newcommandHommathrmHomnewcommandMormathrmHomnewcommandSpecmathrmSpec
begineqnarray
Mor(X, Spec(A otimes_R B))& = &
Hom(A otimes_R B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = &Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))
times_Hom(R, mathcalO_X(X))
Hom(B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = & Mor(X, Spec(A))times_Mor(X, Spec(R))Mor(X, Spec(B))
endeqnarray
$$
My questions are:
I don't know how do we derive the second formula.
Moreover, some part of the third equality is also confusing to me. I know
$$Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))=Mor(X, Spec(A))$$
But what does the "fibre product" (in category of sets) notation mean?
abstract-algebra algebraic-geometry category-theory tensor-products
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When we try to prove the existence of fibre product in affine case, we use the following formula stacks project:
$$newcommandHommathrmHomnewcommandMormathrmHomnewcommandSpecmathrmSpec
begineqnarray
Mor(X, Spec(A otimes_R B))& = &
Hom(A otimes_R B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = &Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))
times_Hom(R, mathcalO_X(X))
Hom(B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = & Mor(X, Spec(A))times_Mor(X, Spec(R))Mor(X, Spec(B))
endeqnarray
$$
My questions are:
I don't know how do we derive the second formula.
Moreover, some part of the third equality is also confusing to me. I know
$$Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))=Mor(X, Spec(A))$$
But what does the "fibre product" (in category of sets) notation mean?
abstract-algebra algebraic-geometry category-theory tensor-products
When we try to prove the existence of fibre product in affine case, we use the following formula stacks project:
$$newcommandHommathrmHomnewcommandMormathrmHomnewcommandSpecmathrmSpec
begineqnarray
Mor(X, Spec(A otimes_R B))& = &
Hom(A otimes_R B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = &Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))
times_Hom(R, mathcalO_X(X))
Hom(B, mathcalO_X(X)) \
& = & Mor(X, Spec(A))times_Mor(X, Spec(R))Mor(X, Spec(B))
endeqnarray
$$
My questions are:
I don't know how do we derive the second formula.
Moreover, some part of the third equality is also confusing to me. I know
$$Hom(A, mathcalO_X(X))=Mor(X, Spec(A))$$
But what does the "fibre product" (in category of sets) notation mean?
abstract-algebra algebraic-geometry category-theory tensor-products
abstract-algebra algebraic-geometry category-theory tensor-products
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Aolong Li
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Let me start with your second question. If $X,Y,$ and $Z$ are sets with maps $p:Xto Z$ and $q:Yto Z$, then the fiber product $Xtimes_Z Y$ is the set $(x,y)in Xtimes Y:p(x)=q(y)$. (You can also define it by the exact same universal property as for fiber products of schemes, but the explicit construction is probably more helpful to think about in this context.)
Now let's look at your first question. There is a universal property of tensor products in the category of commutative rings: namely, they are pushouts (dual to fiber products). Here's what that means explicitly. Let $A$ and $B$ be $R$-algebras (via homomorphisms $i:Rto A$ and $j:Rto B$), and let $k:Ato Aotimes_R B$ and $ell:Bto Aotimes_R B$ be the natural maps ($k(a)=aotimes 1$ and $ell(b)=1otimes b$). Then given any ring $S$ and any pair of homomorphisms $f:Ato S$ and $g:Bto S$ such that $fi=gj$, then there is a unique homomorphism $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$ such that $hk=f$ and $hell=g$.
Now, in this setup, consider the sets $operatornameHom(A,S)$, $operatornameHom(B,S)$, and $operatornameHom(R,S)$. There is a map $p:operatornameHom(A,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $i$, and similarly a map $q:operatornameHom(B,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $j$. We can use these maps to form the fiber product of sets $$operatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Explicitly, this is the set of pairs $(f,g)$ where $f:Ato S$, $g:Bto S$, and $fi=gj$. But by the universal property of $Aotimes_R B$, such pairs are in bijection with homomorphisms $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$. This gives a natural bijection $$operatornameHom(Aotimes_R B,S)congoperatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Your second equality is just this natural bijection in the case $S=mathcalO_X(X)$.
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The pushout in the category of commutative rings is given by tensor products, so the second formula is just the characterization of pushouts in terms of hom-sets.
Similarly, the notation $A times_B C$ refers to the pullback.
(the maps $A to B$ and $C to B$ in the pullback $A times_B C$ are to be inferred from context, just as the maps $R to A$ and $R to B$ are also to be inferred from context when writing $A otimes_R B$)
Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
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Note that $$mathrmSpec:mathbfRingsto mathbfSch$$ is a contravariant functor.
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3 Answers
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Let me start with your second question. If $X,Y,$ and $Z$ are sets with maps $p:Xto Z$ and $q:Yto Z$, then the fiber product $Xtimes_Z Y$ is the set $(x,y)in Xtimes Y:p(x)=q(y)$. (You can also define it by the exact same universal property as for fiber products of schemes, but the explicit construction is probably more helpful to think about in this context.)
Now let's look at your first question. There is a universal property of tensor products in the category of commutative rings: namely, they are pushouts (dual to fiber products). Here's what that means explicitly. Let $A$ and $B$ be $R$-algebras (via homomorphisms $i:Rto A$ and $j:Rto B$), and let $k:Ato Aotimes_R B$ and $ell:Bto Aotimes_R B$ be the natural maps ($k(a)=aotimes 1$ and $ell(b)=1otimes b$). Then given any ring $S$ and any pair of homomorphisms $f:Ato S$ and $g:Bto S$ such that $fi=gj$, then there is a unique homomorphism $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$ such that $hk=f$ and $hell=g$.
Now, in this setup, consider the sets $operatornameHom(A,S)$, $operatornameHom(B,S)$, and $operatornameHom(R,S)$. There is a map $p:operatornameHom(A,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $i$, and similarly a map $q:operatornameHom(B,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $j$. We can use these maps to form the fiber product of sets $$operatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Explicitly, this is the set of pairs $(f,g)$ where $f:Ato S$, $g:Bto S$, and $fi=gj$. But by the universal property of $Aotimes_R B$, such pairs are in bijection with homomorphisms $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$. This gives a natural bijection $$operatornameHom(Aotimes_R B,S)congoperatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Your second equality is just this natural bijection in the case $S=mathcalO_X(X)$.
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Let me start with your second question. If $X,Y,$ and $Z$ are sets with maps $p:Xto Z$ and $q:Yto Z$, then the fiber product $Xtimes_Z Y$ is the set $(x,y)in Xtimes Y:p(x)=q(y)$. (You can also define it by the exact same universal property as for fiber products of schemes, but the explicit construction is probably more helpful to think about in this context.)
Now let's look at your first question. There is a universal property of tensor products in the category of commutative rings: namely, they are pushouts (dual to fiber products). Here's what that means explicitly. Let $A$ and $B$ be $R$-algebras (via homomorphisms $i:Rto A$ and $j:Rto B$), and let $k:Ato Aotimes_R B$ and $ell:Bto Aotimes_R B$ be the natural maps ($k(a)=aotimes 1$ and $ell(b)=1otimes b$). Then given any ring $S$ and any pair of homomorphisms $f:Ato S$ and $g:Bto S$ such that $fi=gj$, then there is a unique homomorphism $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$ such that $hk=f$ and $hell=g$.
Now, in this setup, consider the sets $operatornameHom(A,S)$, $operatornameHom(B,S)$, and $operatornameHom(R,S)$. There is a map $p:operatornameHom(A,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $i$, and similarly a map $q:operatornameHom(B,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $j$. We can use these maps to form the fiber product of sets $$operatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Explicitly, this is the set of pairs $(f,g)$ where $f:Ato S$, $g:Bto S$, and $fi=gj$. But by the universal property of $Aotimes_R B$, such pairs are in bijection with homomorphisms $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$. This gives a natural bijection $$operatornameHom(Aotimes_R B,S)congoperatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Your second equality is just this natural bijection in the case $S=mathcalO_X(X)$.
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Let me start with your second question. If $X,Y,$ and $Z$ are sets with maps $p:Xto Z$ and $q:Yto Z$, then the fiber product $Xtimes_Z Y$ is the set $(x,y)in Xtimes Y:p(x)=q(y)$. (You can also define it by the exact same universal property as for fiber products of schemes, but the explicit construction is probably more helpful to think about in this context.)
Now let's look at your first question. There is a universal property of tensor products in the category of commutative rings: namely, they are pushouts (dual to fiber products). Here's what that means explicitly. Let $A$ and $B$ be $R$-algebras (via homomorphisms $i:Rto A$ and $j:Rto B$), and let $k:Ato Aotimes_R B$ and $ell:Bto Aotimes_R B$ be the natural maps ($k(a)=aotimes 1$ and $ell(b)=1otimes b$). Then given any ring $S$ and any pair of homomorphisms $f:Ato S$ and $g:Bto S$ such that $fi=gj$, then there is a unique homomorphism $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$ such that $hk=f$ and $hell=g$.
Now, in this setup, consider the sets $operatornameHom(A,S)$, $operatornameHom(B,S)$, and $operatornameHom(R,S)$. There is a map $p:operatornameHom(A,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $i$, and similarly a map $q:operatornameHom(B,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $j$. We can use these maps to form the fiber product of sets $$operatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Explicitly, this is the set of pairs $(f,g)$ where $f:Ato S$, $g:Bto S$, and $fi=gj$. But by the universal property of $Aotimes_R B$, such pairs are in bijection with homomorphisms $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$. This gives a natural bijection $$operatornameHom(Aotimes_R B,S)congoperatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Your second equality is just this natural bijection in the case $S=mathcalO_X(X)$.
Let me start with your second question. If $X,Y,$ and $Z$ are sets with maps $p:Xto Z$ and $q:Yto Z$, then the fiber product $Xtimes_Z Y$ is the set $(x,y)in Xtimes Y:p(x)=q(y)$. (You can also define it by the exact same universal property as for fiber products of schemes, but the explicit construction is probably more helpful to think about in this context.)
Now let's look at your first question. There is a universal property of tensor products in the category of commutative rings: namely, they are pushouts (dual to fiber products). Here's what that means explicitly. Let $A$ and $B$ be $R$-algebras (via homomorphisms $i:Rto A$ and $j:Rto B$), and let $k:Ato Aotimes_R B$ and $ell:Bto Aotimes_R B$ be the natural maps ($k(a)=aotimes 1$ and $ell(b)=1otimes b$). Then given any ring $S$ and any pair of homomorphisms $f:Ato S$ and $g:Bto S$ such that $fi=gj$, then there is a unique homomorphism $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$ such that $hk=f$ and $hell=g$.
Now, in this setup, consider the sets $operatornameHom(A,S)$, $operatornameHom(B,S)$, and $operatornameHom(R,S)$. There is a map $p:operatornameHom(A,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $i$, and similarly a map $q:operatornameHom(B,S)tooperatornameHom(R,S)$ given by composition with $j$. We can use these maps to form the fiber product of sets $$operatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Explicitly, this is the set of pairs $(f,g)$ where $f:Ato S$, $g:Bto S$, and $fi=gj$. But by the universal property of $Aotimes_R B$, such pairs are in bijection with homomorphisms $h:Aotimes_R Bto S$. This gives a natural bijection $$operatornameHom(Aotimes_R B,S)congoperatornameHom(A,S)times_operatornameHom(R,S)operatornameHom(B,S).$$ Your second equality is just this natural bijection in the case $S=mathcalO_X(X)$.
answered Jan 28 at 4:49
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The pushout in the category of commutative rings is given by tensor products, so the second formula is just the characterization of pushouts in terms of hom-sets.
Similarly, the notation $A times_B C$ refers to the pullback.
(the maps $A to B$ and $C to B$ in the pullback $A times_B C$ are to be inferred from context, just as the maps $R to A$ and $R to B$ are also to be inferred from context when writing $A otimes_R B$)
Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
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The pushout in the category of commutative rings is given by tensor products, so the second formula is just the characterization of pushouts in terms of hom-sets.
Similarly, the notation $A times_B C$ refers to the pullback.
(the maps $A to B$ and $C to B$ in the pullback $A times_B C$ are to be inferred from context, just as the maps $R to A$ and $R to B$ are also to be inferred from context when writing $A otimes_R B$)
Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
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The pushout in the category of commutative rings is given by tensor products, so the second formula is just the characterization of pushouts in terms of hom-sets.
Similarly, the notation $A times_B C$ refers to the pullback.
(the maps $A to B$ and $C to B$ in the pullback $A times_B C$ are to be inferred from context, just as the maps $R to A$ and $R to B$ are also to be inferred from context when writing $A otimes_R B$)
The pushout in the category of commutative rings is given by tensor products, so the second formula is just the characterization of pushouts in terms of hom-sets.
Similarly, the notation $A times_B C$ refers to the pullback.
(the maps $A to B$ and $C to B$ in the pullback $A times_B C$ are to be inferred from context, just as the maps $R to A$ and $R to B$ are also to be inferred from context when writing $A otimes_R B$)
answered Jan 28 at 4:39
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Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
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Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
Thanks a lot! I made a stupid mistake. I just check out the pullback in the category of rings. Instead, I should reverse the arrows in the diagram of schemes..
â Aolong Li
Jan 28 at 5:44
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Note that $$mathrmSpec:mathbfRingsto mathbfSch$$ is a contravariant functor.
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Note that $$mathrmSpec:mathbfRingsto mathbfSch$$ is a contravariant functor.
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Note that $$mathrmSpec:mathbfRingsto mathbfSch$$ is a contravariant functor.
Note that $$mathrmSpec:mathbfRingsto mathbfSch$$ is a contravariant functor.
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