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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.




I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.










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    Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
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    @DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.




I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.










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    Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
    – DeepSea
    Sep 2 at 20:49






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    Please ask one question at a time.
    – Shaun
    Sep 2 at 20:49






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    @Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:51






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    @DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:52






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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.




I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.










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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.




I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.







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    Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
    – DeepSea
    Sep 2 at 20:49






  • 1




    Please ask one question at a time.
    – Shaun
    Sep 2 at 20:49






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    @Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:51






  • 1




    @DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:52






  • 1




    If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
    – user99914
    Sep 2 at 21:19












  • 2




    Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
    – DeepSea
    Sep 2 at 20:49






  • 1




    Please ask one question at a time.
    – Shaun
    Sep 2 at 20:49






  • 1




    @Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:51






  • 1




    @DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
    – Rebellos
    Sep 2 at 20:52






  • 1




    If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
    – user99914
    Sep 2 at 21:19







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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
– DeepSea
Sep 2 at 20:49




Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
– DeepSea
Sep 2 at 20:49




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Please ask one question at a time.
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
– Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:51




@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
– Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:51




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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
– Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:52




@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
– Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:52




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If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
– user99914
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If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
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First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.



Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$






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  • @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
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    Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
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Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.



  1. $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
    $$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$

  2. $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
    $$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$

Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.






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    First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.



    Since
    $$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
    and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
    $$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
    This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
    $$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$






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    • @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
      – Eclipse Sun
      Sep 2 at 21:03






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      Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
      – Rumpelstiltskin
      Sep 2 at 21:08















    up vote
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    First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.



    Since
    $$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
    and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
    $$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
    This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
    $$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$






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    • @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
      – Eclipse Sun
      Sep 2 at 21:03






    • 1




      Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
      – Rumpelstiltskin
      Sep 2 at 21:08













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    First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.



    Since
    $$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
    and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
    $$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
    This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
    $$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$






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    First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.



    Since
    $$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
    and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
    $$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
    This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
    $$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$







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    • @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
      – Eclipse Sun
      Sep 2 at 21:03






    • 1




      Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
      – Rumpelstiltskin
      Sep 2 at 21:08

















    • @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
      – Eclipse Sun
      Sep 2 at 21:03






    • 1




      Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
      – Rumpelstiltskin
      Sep 2 at 21:08
















    @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
    – Eclipse Sun
    Sep 2 at 21:03




    @Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
    – Eclipse Sun
    Sep 2 at 21:03




    1




    1




    Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
    – Rumpelstiltskin
    Sep 2 at 21:08





    Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
    – Rumpelstiltskin
    Sep 2 at 21:08











    up vote
    1
    down vote













    Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.



    1. $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
      $$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$

    2. $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
      $$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$

    Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.






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      Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.



      1. $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
        $$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$

      2. $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
        $$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$

      Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.






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        Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.



        1. $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
          $$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$

        2. $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
          $$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$

        Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.






        share|cite|improve this answer












        Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.



        1. $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
          $$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$

        2. $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
          $$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$

        Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.







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