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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.
I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.
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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.
I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.
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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.
I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.
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Let $(a_n)$ be the sequence defined by $a_1 = 1$ and $a_n+1 = frac13+a_n$ for all $n in mathbb N.$ Show that $(a_n)$ converges and find its limit.
I have no idea on how to handle this though so I would definitely appreciate some help for a rigorous proof.
sequences-and-series limits convergence
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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
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Please ask one question at a time.
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
â DeepSea
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Please ask one question at a time.
â Shaun
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
â Rebellos
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
â Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:52
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If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
â DeepSea
Sep 2 at 20:49
Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
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Please ask one question at a time.
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
â Rebellos
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
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If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
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First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.
Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$
@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
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Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
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Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.
- $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
$$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$ - $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
$$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$
Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.
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2 Answers
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First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.
Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$
@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
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Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
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4
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accepted
First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.
Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$
@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
1
Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
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up vote
4
down vote
accepted
up vote
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down vote
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First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.
Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$
First we note that $a_nin (0,1/3)$ for $n>1$.
Since
$$a_n+1-a_n=frac13+a_n-frac13+a_n-1=fraca_n-1-a_n(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1),$$
and $(3+a_n)(3+a_n-1)>9$, we see that
$$|a_n+1-a_n|<frac19 |a_n-a_n-1|.$$
This shows that $a_n$ is Cauchy, so it converges to some number $ain[0,1/3]$. To find $a$, take limits on both sides of
$$a_n+1=frac13+a_n.$$
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@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
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Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
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@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
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Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
@Rumpelstiltskin I missed that. It is true when $n>1$.
â Eclipse Sun
Sep 2 at 21:03
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Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
Yes I saw that, I deleted my comment. You could also use Banach's theorem about contractions here, maybe you should mention that.
â Rumpelstiltskin
Sep 2 at 21:08
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up vote
1
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Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.
- $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
$$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$ - $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
$$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$
Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.
- $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
$$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$ - $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
$$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$
Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.
- $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
$$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$ - $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
$$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$
Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.
Using contraction mapping technique. We will look at the function $f(x)=frac13+x$ s.t. $a_n+1=f(a_n)$.
- $forall x in left[0,1right] => f(x) in left[0,1right]$. Indeed
$$0leq xleq 1 Rightarrow 3leq 3+xleq 4 Rightarrow frac13geq frac13+xgeq frac14>0$$ or $$1geq f(x)geq 0$$ - $f(x)$ is a contraction mapping on $left[0,1right]$, from MVT $forall x,y in left[0,1right], exists c$ in between them s.t.
$$|f(x)-f(y)|=|f'(c)||x-y|=left|-frac1(3+c)^2right||x-y|leqfrac19|x-y|$$
Since $a_1 in left[0,1right]$, from Banach fixed-point theorem, the sequence has a limit on $left[0,1right]$ which you can find from $L=frac13+L$.
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Part $b)$ of your post is a question found in Mathematics Magazine about 2 years ago. Look that up. To do that sequence, you have to consider subsequence...
â DeepSea
Sep 2 at 20:49
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Please ask one question at a time.
â Shaun
Sep 2 at 20:49
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@Shaun Its an exercise consisted of 2 parts and I only asked one question. Please review the posts better before commenting (and potentially downvoting).
â Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:51
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@DeepSea A subsequence approach seems rather interesting ! I'll check it up, thanks !
â Rebellos
Sep 2 at 20:52
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If you use Approach 0, one can find this questions easily.
â user99914
Sep 2 at 21:19