Clock form and derivative

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Consider $X,Y$ two smooth vector fields of $mathbbR^2$ and
the set $C=zin mathbbR^2;, det(X,Y)(z)neq 0$.



On the set $C$, we define the form $alpha$ by :



  • $
    alpha(X)=1,quad alpha(Y)=0.
    $


  • Given a trajectory $z(cdot)$
    solution on $[0,T]$ of the system
    $$
    dot z(t) = X(z(t)) + u(t),Y(z(t))
    $$
    where $u$ is a given function and such that $z(.)in C$,
    we define:
    $$
    int_z(cdot) alpha = T.
    $$


On which set do we have $dalpha=0$ ?










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  • The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
    – Amitai Yuval
    Sep 3 at 13:41










  • apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
    – Smilia
    Sep 3 at 14:18















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Consider $X,Y$ two smooth vector fields of $mathbbR^2$ and
the set $C=zin mathbbR^2;, det(X,Y)(z)neq 0$.



On the set $C$, we define the form $alpha$ by :



  • $
    alpha(X)=1,quad alpha(Y)=0.
    $


  • Given a trajectory $z(cdot)$
    solution on $[0,T]$ of the system
    $$
    dot z(t) = X(z(t)) + u(t),Y(z(t))
    $$
    where $u$ is a given function and such that $z(.)in C$,
    we define:
    $$
    int_z(cdot) alpha = T.
    $$


On which set do we have $dalpha=0$ ?










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  • The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
    – Amitai Yuval
    Sep 3 at 13:41










  • apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
    – Smilia
    Sep 3 at 14:18













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Consider $X,Y$ two smooth vector fields of $mathbbR^2$ and
the set $C=zin mathbbR^2;, det(X,Y)(z)neq 0$.



On the set $C$, we define the form $alpha$ by :



  • $
    alpha(X)=1,quad alpha(Y)=0.
    $


  • Given a trajectory $z(cdot)$
    solution on $[0,T]$ of the system
    $$
    dot z(t) = X(z(t)) + u(t),Y(z(t))
    $$
    where $u$ is a given function and such that $z(.)in C$,
    we define:
    $$
    int_z(cdot) alpha = T.
    $$


On which set do we have $dalpha=0$ ?










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Consider $X,Y$ two smooth vector fields of $mathbbR^2$ and
the set $C=zin mathbbR^2;, det(X,Y)(z)neq 0$.



On the set $C$, we define the form $alpha$ by :



  • $
    alpha(X)=1,quad alpha(Y)=0.
    $


  • Given a trajectory $z(cdot)$
    solution on $[0,T]$ of the system
    $$
    dot z(t) = X(z(t)) + u(t),Y(z(t))
    $$
    where $u$ is a given function and such that $z(.)in C$,
    we define:
    $$
    int_z(cdot) alpha = T.
    $$


On which set do we have $dalpha=0$ ?







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  • The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
    – Amitai Yuval
    Sep 3 at 13:41










  • apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
    – Smilia
    Sep 3 at 14:18

















  • The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
    – Amitai Yuval
    Sep 3 at 13:41










  • apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
    – Smilia
    Sep 3 at 14:18
















The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
– Amitai Yuval
Sep 3 at 13:41




The form $alpha$ is well-defined the minute you specify its values at $X$ and $Y$. What is the purpose of the rest of the post?
– Amitai Yuval
Sep 3 at 13:41












apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
– Smilia
Sep 3 at 14:18





apparently we can have a general picture of the kernel of $dalpha$ which is the set where $Y,[X,Y]$ are collinear... but I can't see it
– Smilia
Sep 3 at 14:18











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By the intrinsic expression for the exterior derivative, we have $$dalpha(X,Y)=X(alpha(Y))-Y(alpha(X))-alpha([X,Y])=-alpha([X,Y]).$$ So, $alpha$ is closed at every point where $alpha([X,Y])=0$. But, by construction, the kernel of $alpha$ at a point $p$ is the line spanned by $Y(p)$. Hence, $dalpha$ vanishes at $p$ if and only if $Y$ and $[X,Y]$ are colinear at $p$.






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    By the intrinsic expression for the exterior derivative, we have $$dalpha(X,Y)=X(alpha(Y))-Y(alpha(X))-alpha([X,Y])=-alpha([X,Y]).$$ So, $alpha$ is closed at every point where $alpha([X,Y])=0$. But, by construction, the kernel of $alpha$ at a point $p$ is the line spanned by $Y(p)$. Hence, $dalpha$ vanishes at $p$ if and only if $Y$ and $[X,Y]$ are colinear at $p$.






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      By the intrinsic expression for the exterior derivative, we have $$dalpha(X,Y)=X(alpha(Y))-Y(alpha(X))-alpha([X,Y])=-alpha([X,Y]).$$ So, $alpha$ is closed at every point where $alpha([X,Y])=0$. But, by construction, the kernel of $alpha$ at a point $p$ is the line spanned by $Y(p)$. Hence, $dalpha$ vanishes at $p$ if and only if $Y$ and $[X,Y]$ are colinear at $p$.






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        By the intrinsic expression for the exterior derivative, we have $$dalpha(X,Y)=X(alpha(Y))-Y(alpha(X))-alpha([X,Y])=-alpha([X,Y]).$$ So, $alpha$ is closed at every point where $alpha([X,Y])=0$. But, by construction, the kernel of $alpha$ at a point $p$ is the line spanned by $Y(p)$. Hence, $dalpha$ vanishes at $p$ if and only if $Y$ and $[X,Y]$ are colinear at $p$.






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        By the intrinsic expression for the exterior derivative, we have $$dalpha(X,Y)=X(alpha(Y))-Y(alpha(X))-alpha([X,Y])=-alpha([X,Y]).$$ So, $alpha$ is closed at every point where $alpha([X,Y])=0$. But, by construction, the kernel of $alpha$ at a point $p$ is the line spanned by $Y(p)$. Hence, $dalpha$ vanishes at $p$ if and only if $Y$ and $[X,Y]$ are colinear at $p$.







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