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I could not find the factors of this polynomial. Can you please explain me how to proceed?
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Find factors of
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I could not find the factors of this polynomial. Can you please explain me how to proceed?
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If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
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Can u solve further plz
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Find factors of
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I could not find the factors of this polynomial. Can you please explain me how to proceed?
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Find factors of
$$x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4.$$
I could not find the factors of this polynomial. Can you please explain me how to proceed?
algebra-precalculus polynomials factoring
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If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
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Sep 3 at 9:23
Can u solve further plz
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If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
â Mark Bennet
Sep 3 at 9:23
Can u solve further plz
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Sep 3 at 9:36
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If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
â Mark Bennet
Sep 3 at 9:23
If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
â Mark Bennet
Sep 3 at 9:23
Can u solve further plz
â shadow Fire
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Can u solve further plz
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Hint: try with
$$ (x+ay+b)(x+cy+d)= x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$$
Since this should be true for all $x,y$ you can put different values of $x,y$ into to calculate $a,b,c,d$. You should get a system of 4 equation.
Say for $y=0$ we get $$(x+b)(x+d)= x^2+3x+4$$
which should be true for all (real) $x$, but this is imposible since the discrimanant is $-7$. So you can't factor this expression (in real).
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Compute the determinant
$$
detbeginbmatrix
1 & -3 & 3/2 \
-3 & 1 & -3/2 \
3/2 & -3/2 & 4
endbmatrix=-23
$$
Since the determinant is nonzero, the polynomial represents a nondegenerate conic, so it is irreducible.
is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
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@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
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Sep 3 at 11:25
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You cannot factor $f(x,y):=x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$ over $mathbbQ$, $mathbbR$, or $mathbbC$. If the base field is $mathbbQ$ or $mathbbR$, then the answer by greedoid covers it. We now assume that the base field is $mathbbC$ (or any algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$).
To show that $f(x,y)$ is an irreducible element of $mathbbC[x,y]$, you can first homogenize the polynomial with a dummy variable $z$ to get
$$F(x,y,z)=x^2-6xy+y^2+3xz-3yz+4z^2inmathbbC[x,y,z],.$$
Then,
$$fracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=2x-6y+3z,,$$
$$fracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=-6x+2y-3z,,$$
and
$$fracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=3x-3y+8z,.$$
Thus, $dfracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=0$, $dfracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=0$, and $dfracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=0$ simultaneously if and only if $(x,y,z)=(0,0,0)$. From this link, we conclude that $F(x,y,z)$ is irreducible over $mathbbC$, and so is $f(x,y)$.
It can be shown that $f(x,y)$ is reducible over a given base field $K$ if and only if $textchar(K)=2$ or $textchar(K)=23$. When $textchar(K)=2$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(x+y),(x+y+1),.$$
When $textchar(K)=23$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(7x+y+8)(10x+y+12),.$$
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Use the quadratic formula and treat $x$ as a constant. What you will get is a function with asymptotic behaviour, i.e., something like $xy=1$.
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Hint: try with
$$ (x+ay+b)(x+cy+d)= x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$$
Since this should be true for all $x,y$ you can put different values of $x,y$ into to calculate $a,b,c,d$. You should get a system of 4 equation.
Say for $y=0$ we get $$(x+b)(x+d)= x^2+3x+4$$
which should be true for all (real) $x$, but this is imposible since the discrimanant is $-7$. So you can't factor this expression (in real).
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Hint: try with
$$ (x+ay+b)(x+cy+d)= x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$$
Since this should be true for all $x,y$ you can put different values of $x,y$ into to calculate $a,b,c,d$. You should get a system of 4 equation.
Say for $y=0$ we get $$(x+b)(x+d)= x^2+3x+4$$
which should be true for all (real) $x$, but this is imposible since the discrimanant is $-7$. So you can't factor this expression (in real).
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Hint: try with
$$ (x+ay+b)(x+cy+d)= x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$$
Since this should be true for all $x,y$ you can put different values of $x,y$ into to calculate $a,b,c,d$. You should get a system of 4 equation.
Say for $y=0$ we get $$(x+b)(x+d)= x^2+3x+4$$
which should be true for all (real) $x$, but this is imposible since the discrimanant is $-7$. So you can't factor this expression (in real).
Hint: try with
$$ (x+ay+b)(x+cy+d)= x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$$
Since this should be true for all $x,y$ you can put different values of $x,y$ into to calculate $a,b,c,d$. You should get a system of 4 equation.
Say for $y=0$ we get $$(x+b)(x+d)= x^2+3x+4$$
which should be true for all (real) $x$, but this is imposible since the discrimanant is $-7$. So you can't factor this expression (in real).
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Compute the determinant
$$
detbeginbmatrix
1 & -3 & 3/2 \
-3 & 1 & -3/2 \
3/2 & -3/2 & 4
endbmatrix=-23
$$
Since the determinant is nonzero, the polynomial represents a nondegenerate conic, so it is irreducible.
is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
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@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
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up vote
2
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Compute the determinant
$$
detbeginbmatrix
1 & -3 & 3/2 \
-3 & 1 & -3/2 \
3/2 & -3/2 & 4
endbmatrix=-23
$$
Since the determinant is nonzero, the polynomial represents a nondegenerate conic, so it is irreducible.
is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
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@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
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up vote
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Compute the determinant
$$
detbeginbmatrix
1 & -3 & 3/2 \
-3 & 1 & -3/2 \
3/2 & -3/2 & 4
endbmatrix=-23
$$
Since the determinant is nonzero, the polynomial represents a nondegenerate conic, so it is irreducible.
Compute the determinant
$$
detbeginbmatrix
1 & -3 & 3/2 \
-3 & 1 & -3/2 \
3/2 & -3/2 & 4
endbmatrix=-23
$$
Since the determinant is nonzero, the polynomial represents a nondegenerate conic, so it is irreducible.
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is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
1
@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
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is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
1
@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
is not it the quadratic form in $(x,y)$, so is not the determinant $beginvmatrix1&-3\-3&1endvmatrix=-8ne 0$? Though the result is the same.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 10:28
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
@farruhota No, that determinant is $0$ when the conic is a parabola (degenerate or not).
â egreg
Sep 3 at 10:38
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@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@farruhota You can't use just only the coefficients of the quadratic terms in $x$ and $y$. For example, $x^2-y^2$ is reducible, but the determinant of $beginbmatrix1&0\0&-1endbmatrix$ is $-1neq 0$.
â Batominovski
Sep 3 at 10:44
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
@Batominovski, thank you, indeed, here it states "discriminant of non-homogenous form determines the parabola, ellipse or hyperbola", while "discriminant of homogenized form determines the non-degenerate or degenerate", so the given is non-degenerate hyperbola.
â farruhota
Sep 3 at 11:25
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You cannot factor $f(x,y):=x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$ over $mathbbQ$, $mathbbR$, or $mathbbC$. If the base field is $mathbbQ$ or $mathbbR$, then the answer by greedoid covers it. We now assume that the base field is $mathbbC$ (or any algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$).
To show that $f(x,y)$ is an irreducible element of $mathbbC[x,y]$, you can first homogenize the polynomial with a dummy variable $z$ to get
$$F(x,y,z)=x^2-6xy+y^2+3xz-3yz+4z^2inmathbbC[x,y,z],.$$
Then,
$$fracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=2x-6y+3z,,$$
$$fracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=-6x+2y-3z,,$$
and
$$fracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=3x-3y+8z,.$$
Thus, $dfracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=0$, $dfracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=0$, and $dfracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=0$ simultaneously if and only if $(x,y,z)=(0,0,0)$. From this link, we conclude that $F(x,y,z)$ is irreducible over $mathbbC$, and so is $f(x,y)$.
It can be shown that $f(x,y)$ is reducible over a given base field $K$ if and only if $textchar(K)=2$ or $textchar(K)=23$. When $textchar(K)=2$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(x+y),(x+y+1),.$$
When $textchar(K)=23$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(7x+y+8)(10x+y+12),.$$
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You cannot factor $f(x,y):=x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$ over $mathbbQ$, $mathbbR$, or $mathbbC$. If the base field is $mathbbQ$ or $mathbbR$, then the answer by greedoid covers it. We now assume that the base field is $mathbbC$ (or any algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$).
To show that $f(x,y)$ is an irreducible element of $mathbbC[x,y]$, you can first homogenize the polynomial with a dummy variable $z$ to get
$$F(x,y,z)=x^2-6xy+y^2+3xz-3yz+4z^2inmathbbC[x,y,z],.$$
Then,
$$fracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=2x-6y+3z,,$$
$$fracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=-6x+2y-3z,,$$
and
$$fracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=3x-3y+8z,.$$
Thus, $dfracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=0$, $dfracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=0$, and $dfracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=0$ simultaneously if and only if $(x,y,z)=(0,0,0)$. From this link, we conclude that $F(x,y,z)$ is irreducible over $mathbbC$, and so is $f(x,y)$.
It can be shown that $f(x,y)$ is reducible over a given base field $K$ if and only if $textchar(K)=2$ or $textchar(K)=23$. When $textchar(K)=2$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(x+y),(x+y+1),.$$
When $textchar(K)=23$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(7x+y+8)(10x+y+12),.$$
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You cannot factor $f(x,y):=x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$ over $mathbbQ$, $mathbbR$, or $mathbbC$. If the base field is $mathbbQ$ or $mathbbR$, then the answer by greedoid covers it. We now assume that the base field is $mathbbC$ (or any algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$).
To show that $f(x,y)$ is an irreducible element of $mathbbC[x,y]$, you can first homogenize the polynomial with a dummy variable $z$ to get
$$F(x,y,z)=x^2-6xy+y^2+3xz-3yz+4z^2inmathbbC[x,y,z],.$$
Then,
$$fracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=2x-6y+3z,,$$
$$fracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=-6x+2y-3z,,$$
and
$$fracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=3x-3y+8z,.$$
Thus, $dfracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=0$, $dfracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=0$, and $dfracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=0$ simultaneously if and only if $(x,y,z)=(0,0,0)$. From this link, we conclude that $F(x,y,z)$ is irreducible over $mathbbC$, and so is $f(x,y)$.
It can be shown that $f(x,y)$ is reducible over a given base field $K$ if and only if $textchar(K)=2$ or $textchar(K)=23$. When $textchar(K)=2$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(x+y),(x+y+1),.$$
When $textchar(K)=23$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(7x+y+8)(10x+y+12),.$$
You cannot factor $f(x,y):=x^2-6xy+y^2+3x-3y+4$ over $mathbbQ$, $mathbbR$, or $mathbbC$. If the base field is $mathbbQ$ or $mathbbR$, then the answer by greedoid covers it. We now assume that the base field is $mathbbC$ (or any algebraically closed field of characteristic $0$).
To show that $f(x,y)$ is an irreducible element of $mathbbC[x,y]$, you can first homogenize the polynomial with a dummy variable $z$ to get
$$F(x,y,z)=x^2-6xy+y^2+3xz-3yz+4z^2inmathbbC[x,y,z],.$$
Then,
$$fracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=2x-6y+3z,,$$
$$fracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=-6x+2y-3z,,$$
and
$$fracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=3x-3y+8z,.$$
Thus, $dfracpartial Fpartial x(x,y,z)=0$, $dfracpartial Fpartial y(x,y,z)=0$, and $dfracpartial Fpartial z(x,y,z)=0$ simultaneously if and only if $(x,y,z)=(0,0,0)$. From this link, we conclude that $F(x,y,z)$ is irreducible over $mathbbC$, and so is $f(x,y)$.
It can be shown that $f(x,y)$ is reducible over a given base field $K$ if and only if $textchar(K)=2$ or $textchar(K)=23$. When $textchar(K)=2$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(x+y),(x+y+1),.$$
When $textchar(K)=23$, we have
$$f(x,y)=(7x+y+8)(10x+y+12),.$$
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Hint:
Use the quadratic formula and treat $x$ as a constant. What you will get is a function with asymptotic behaviour, i.e., something like $xy=1$.
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Use the quadratic formula and treat $x$ as a constant. What you will get is a function with asymptotic behaviour, i.e., something like $xy=1$.
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Hint:
Use the quadratic formula and treat $x$ as a constant. What you will get is a function with asymptotic behaviour, i.e., something like $xy=1$.
Hint:
Use the quadratic formula and treat $x$ as a constant. What you will get is a function with asymptotic behaviour, i.e., something like $xy=1$.
answered Sep 3 at 9:24
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If you rewrite it as $p(x,y)=x^2+(3-6y)x+(y^2-3y+4)$ you can "solve" it in the usual way as a quadratic in $x$. If there are "nice" factors, this will give them.
â Mark Bennet
Sep 3 at 9:23
Can u solve further plz
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Sep 3 at 9:36
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