Need help in proving $cup_n=1^infty X(omega) leq x_n = omega in Omega $

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While solving a problem , I got stuck on the following step: For $A_n = X(omega) leq x_n $ where $x_n$ is an increasing sequence of real numbers converging to say, $x$.

I need to show that union of these $A_n$s is equal to the set $ A= omega in Omega $.

My attempt has been as follows:.

I first showed that the union is contained in this set by taking an element in the union and using that $x_n < x$. But now I'm stuck on proving the other inclusion.

Please help.










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    If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
    – SMM
    Sep 3 at 11:59










  • Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
    – Riccardo Ceccon
    Sep 3 at 12:16










  • My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 3 at 12:18






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    @LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
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    Sep 3 at 12:26














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While solving a problem , I got stuck on the following step: For $A_n = X(omega) leq x_n $ where $x_n$ is an increasing sequence of real numbers converging to say, $x$.

I need to show that union of these $A_n$s is equal to the set $ A= omega in Omega $.

My attempt has been as follows:.

I first showed that the union is contained in this set by taking an element in the union and using that $x_n < x$. But now I'm stuck on proving the other inclusion.

Please help.










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    If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
    – SMM
    Sep 3 at 11:59










  • Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
    – Riccardo Ceccon
    Sep 3 at 12:16










  • My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 3 at 12:18






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    @LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
    – drhab
    Sep 3 at 12:26












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While solving a problem , I got stuck on the following step: For $A_n = X(omega) leq x_n $ where $x_n$ is an increasing sequence of real numbers converging to say, $x$.

I need to show that union of these $A_n$s is equal to the set $ A= omega in Omega $.

My attempt has been as follows:.

I first showed that the union is contained in this set by taking an element in the union and using that $x_n < x$. But now I'm stuck on proving the other inclusion.

Please help.










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While solving a problem , I got stuck on the following step: For $A_n = X(omega) leq x_n $ where $x_n$ is an increasing sequence of real numbers converging to say, $x$.

I need to show that union of these $A_n$s is equal to the set $ A= omega in Omega $.

My attempt has been as follows:.

I first showed that the union is contained in this set by taking an element in the union and using that $x_n < x$. But now I'm stuck on proving the other inclusion.

Please help.







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    If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
    – SMM
    Sep 3 at 11:59










  • Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
    – Riccardo Ceccon
    Sep 3 at 12:16










  • My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 3 at 12:18






  • 1




    @LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
    – drhab
    Sep 3 at 12:26












  • 1




    If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
    – SMM
    Sep 3 at 11:59










  • Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
    – Riccardo Ceccon
    Sep 3 at 12:16










  • My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 3 at 12:18






  • 1




    @LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
    – drhab
    Sep 3 at 12:26







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If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
– SMM
Sep 3 at 11:59




If $X(omega)<x$, set $varepsilon=x-X(omega)$. Since $x_nrightarrow x$, there exists $n$ such that $x-x_n<varepsilon$, so $X(omega)<x_n$.
– SMM
Sep 3 at 11:59












Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
– Riccardo Ceccon
Sep 3 at 12:16




Little note: for this to be true, $x_n$ must be strictly increasing.
– Riccardo Ceccon
Sep 3 at 12:16












My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 3 at 12:18




My stupid question: what is $X(omega)$?
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 3 at 12:18




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@LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
– drhab
Sep 3 at 12:26




@LeAnhDung $X$ is in this context a function $Omegatomathbb R$. So for a fixed $omegainOmega$ here $X(omega)$ is an element of $mathbb R$.
– drhab
Sep 3 at 12:26










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Let $omegain A$ or equivalently let $X(omega)<x$.



Then for $n$ large enough we will have $X(omega)leq x_nleq x$ because $x_n$ converges to $x$, so that $xin A_n$.



(Observe that $x_n<X(omega)<x$ for every $n$ implies that $x_n$ does not converge to $x$ because in that case $x-x_n>x-X(omega)>0$ for every $n$)



This shows that: $$Asubseteqbigcup_n=1^inftyA_n$$




Remark: the other inclusion is valid under at least one of the following extra conditions:



  • $omegainOmegamid X(omega)=x=varnothing$.

  • for every $n$ we have $x_nneq x$ (hence $x_n<x$ in this context).

The second condition will be satisfied if $x_n$ is strictly increasing. Increasing only is not enough.






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    Let $y<x$. As the sequence converges to $x$ there is an $n$ such that $|x_m-x|<(x-y)$ whenever $mge n$. But then $y<x_m$ for all those $m$.






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      Let $omegain A$ or equivalently let $X(omega)<x$.



      Then for $n$ large enough we will have $X(omega)leq x_nleq x$ because $x_n$ converges to $x$, so that $xin A_n$.



      (Observe that $x_n<X(omega)<x$ for every $n$ implies that $x_n$ does not converge to $x$ because in that case $x-x_n>x-X(omega)>0$ for every $n$)



      This shows that: $$Asubseteqbigcup_n=1^inftyA_n$$




      Remark: the other inclusion is valid under at least one of the following extra conditions:



      • $omegainOmegamid X(omega)=x=varnothing$.

      • for every $n$ we have $x_nneq x$ (hence $x_n<x$ in this context).

      The second condition will be satisfied if $x_n$ is strictly increasing. Increasing only is not enough.






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        Let $omegain A$ or equivalently let $X(omega)<x$.



        Then for $n$ large enough we will have $X(omega)leq x_nleq x$ because $x_n$ converges to $x$, so that $xin A_n$.



        (Observe that $x_n<X(omega)<x$ for every $n$ implies that $x_n$ does not converge to $x$ because in that case $x-x_n>x-X(omega)>0$ for every $n$)



        This shows that: $$Asubseteqbigcup_n=1^inftyA_n$$




        Remark: the other inclusion is valid under at least one of the following extra conditions:



        • $omegainOmegamid X(omega)=x=varnothing$.

        • for every $n$ we have $x_nneq x$ (hence $x_n<x$ in this context).

        The second condition will be satisfied if $x_n$ is strictly increasing. Increasing only is not enough.






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          Let $omegain A$ or equivalently let $X(omega)<x$.



          Then for $n$ large enough we will have $X(omega)leq x_nleq x$ because $x_n$ converges to $x$, so that $xin A_n$.



          (Observe that $x_n<X(omega)<x$ for every $n$ implies that $x_n$ does not converge to $x$ because in that case $x-x_n>x-X(omega)>0$ for every $n$)



          This shows that: $$Asubseteqbigcup_n=1^inftyA_n$$




          Remark: the other inclusion is valid under at least one of the following extra conditions:



          • $omegainOmegamid X(omega)=x=varnothing$.

          • for every $n$ we have $x_nneq x$ (hence $x_n<x$ in this context).

          The second condition will be satisfied if $x_n$ is strictly increasing. Increasing only is not enough.






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          Let $omegain A$ or equivalently let $X(omega)<x$.



          Then for $n$ large enough we will have $X(omega)leq x_nleq x$ because $x_n$ converges to $x$, so that $xin A_n$.



          (Observe that $x_n<X(omega)<x$ for every $n$ implies that $x_n$ does not converge to $x$ because in that case $x-x_n>x-X(omega)>0$ for every $n$)



          This shows that: $$Asubseteqbigcup_n=1^inftyA_n$$




          Remark: the other inclusion is valid under at least one of the following extra conditions:



          • $omegainOmegamid X(omega)=x=varnothing$.

          • for every $n$ we have $x_nneq x$ (hence $x_n<x$ in this context).

          The second condition will be satisfied if $x_n$ is strictly increasing. Increasing only is not enough.







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              Let $y<x$. As the sequence converges to $x$ there is an $n$ such that $|x_m-x|<(x-y)$ whenever $mge n$. But then $y<x_m$ for all those $m$.






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                Let $y<x$. As the sequence converges to $x$ there is an $n$ such that $|x_m-x|<(x-y)$ whenever $mge n$. But then $y<x_m$ for all those $m$.






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                  Let $y<x$. As the sequence converges to $x$ there is an $n$ such that $|x_m-x|<(x-y)$ whenever $mge n$. But then $y<x_m$ for all those $m$.






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                  Let $y<x$. As the sequence converges to $x$ there is an $n$ such that $|x_m-x|<(x-y)$ whenever $mge n$. But then $y<x_m$ for all those $m$.







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