Why do inverse function and chain rule not produce the same derivative?
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I understand
$'ln(x) = frac1'e^ln(x) =frac1x $
But if I use the chain rule in the denominator to calculate the derivative
$'e^ln(x) => ('e^ln(x))('ln(x))=(x)(frac1x)=1$
But then
$frac1xneqfrac11$
What am I doing wrong?
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I understand
$'ln(x) = frac1'e^ln(x) =frac1x $
But if I use the chain rule in the denominator to calculate the derivative
$'e^ln(x) => ('e^ln(x))('ln(x))=(x)(frac1x)=1$
But then
$frac1xneqfrac11$
What am I doing wrong?
calculus derivatives
What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
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Sep 4 at 12:54
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I understand
$'ln(x) = frac1'e^ln(x) =frac1x $
But if I use the chain rule in the denominator to calculate the derivative
$'e^ln(x) => ('e^ln(x))('ln(x))=(x)(frac1x)=1$
But then
$frac1xneqfrac11$
What am I doing wrong?
calculus derivatives
I understand
$'ln(x) = frac1'e^ln(x) =frac1x $
But if I use the chain rule in the denominator to calculate the derivative
$'e^ln(x) => ('e^ln(x))('ln(x))=(x)(frac1x)=1$
But then
$frac1xneqfrac11$
What am I doing wrong?
calculus derivatives
calculus derivatives
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jhuk
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What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
â Prototank
Sep 4 at 12:54
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What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
â Prototank
Sep 4 at 12:54
What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
â Prototank
Sep 4 at 12:54
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
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Sep 4 at 12:54
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The devil is in the detail. In your first equation it must be 1/e^Ln(x)=1/x. For the following reason: suppose f,g are differentiable. The chain rule then says:
f(g(x))âÂÂ=fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x)
So if g is the inverse function of f, f(g(x))=x then differentiation gives:
1= fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x) I.e.
gâÂÂ(x)=1/fâÂÂ(g(x)) when the denominator is nonzero.
The key point here is that you take the derivative of the âÂÂouterâ function and leave the âÂÂinternalâ function. Applying this to your case gives the result. That is f(y)=e^y and g(x)=ln(x)
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$f(x)=e^x$ and $f^-1(x)=ln(x)$. By direct computation we see that
$(f^-1)'(x)=d/dx(ln(x))=1/x$
By the inverse function rule, this should be equal to $frac1f'(f^-1(x))$. Well, $f'(x)=e^x$ and hence $frac1f'(f^-1(x))=frac1e^ln(x)=frac1x$ as desired.
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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down vote
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The devil is in the detail. In your first equation it must be 1/e^Ln(x)=1/x. For the following reason: suppose f,g are differentiable. The chain rule then says:
f(g(x))âÂÂ=fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x)
So if g is the inverse function of f, f(g(x))=x then differentiation gives:
1= fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x) I.e.
gâÂÂ(x)=1/fâÂÂ(g(x)) when the denominator is nonzero.
The key point here is that you take the derivative of the âÂÂouterâ function and leave the âÂÂinternalâ function. Applying this to your case gives the result. That is f(y)=e^y and g(x)=ln(x)
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
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The devil is in the detail. In your first equation it must be 1/e^Ln(x)=1/x. For the following reason: suppose f,g are differentiable. The chain rule then says:
f(g(x))âÂÂ=fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x)
So if g is the inverse function of f, f(g(x))=x then differentiation gives:
1= fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x) I.e.
gâÂÂ(x)=1/fâÂÂ(g(x)) when the denominator is nonzero.
The key point here is that you take the derivative of the âÂÂouterâ function and leave the âÂÂinternalâ function. Applying this to your case gives the result. That is f(y)=e^y and g(x)=ln(x)
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up vote
1
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up vote
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The devil is in the detail. In your first equation it must be 1/e^Ln(x)=1/x. For the following reason: suppose f,g are differentiable. The chain rule then says:
f(g(x))âÂÂ=fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x)
So if g is the inverse function of f, f(g(x))=x then differentiation gives:
1= fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x) I.e.
gâÂÂ(x)=1/fâÂÂ(g(x)) when the denominator is nonzero.
The key point here is that you take the derivative of the âÂÂouterâ function and leave the âÂÂinternalâ function. Applying this to your case gives the result. That is f(y)=e^y and g(x)=ln(x)
The devil is in the detail. In your first equation it must be 1/e^Ln(x)=1/x. For the following reason: suppose f,g are differentiable. The chain rule then says:
f(g(x))âÂÂ=fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x)
So if g is the inverse function of f, f(g(x))=x then differentiation gives:
1= fâÂÂ(g(x))*gâÂÂ(x) I.e.
gâÂÂ(x)=1/fâÂÂ(g(x)) when the denominator is nonzero.
The key point here is that you take the derivative of the âÂÂouterâ function and leave the âÂÂinternalâ function. Applying this to your case gives the result. That is f(y)=e^y and g(x)=ln(x)
answered Sep 4 at 12:54
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$f(x)=e^x$ and $f^-1(x)=ln(x)$. By direct computation we see that
$(f^-1)'(x)=d/dx(ln(x))=1/x$
By the inverse function rule, this should be equal to $frac1f'(f^-1(x))$. Well, $f'(x)=e^x$ and hence $frac1f'(f^-1(x))=frac1e^ln(x)=frac1x$ as desired.
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$f(x)=e^x$ and $f^-1(x)=ln(x)$. By direct computation we see that
$(f^-1)'(x)=d/dx(ln(x))=1/x$
By the inverse function rule, this should be equal to $frac1f'(f^-1(x))$. Well, $f'(x)=e^x$ and hence $frac1f'(f^-1(x))=frac1e^ln(x)=frac1x$ as desired.
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$f(x)=e^x$ and $f^-1(x)=ln(x)$. By direct computation we see that
$(f^-1)'(x)=d/dx(ln(x))=1/x$
By the inverse function rule, this should be equal to $frac1f'(f^-1(x))$. Well, $f'(x)=e^x$ and hence $frac1f'(f^-1(x))=frac1e^ln(x)=frac1x$ as desired.
$f(x)=e^x$ and $f^-1(x)=ln(x)$. By direct computation we see that
$(f^-1)'(x)=d/dx(ln(x))=1/x$
By the inverse function rule, this should be equal to $frac1f'(f^-1(x))$. Well, $f'(x)=e^x$ and hence $frac1f'(f^-1(x))=frac1e^ln(x)=frac1x$ as desired.
answered Sep 4 at 12:50
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What is the inverse function of $ln x?$
â gammatester
Sep 4 at 12:41
I think your notation might be causing you some confusion. If you write out the statements abstractly with a general function $f$, then carefully substitute your specific function, you should find what you're looking for. This is a good strategy in general.
â Prototank
Sep 4 at 12:54