Given $sin(t) + cos(t) = a$, derive an expression in '$a$' for $(cos(t))^4 + (sin(t))^4$

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I received this question from a student's trigonometry review assignment. After spending an embarrassing amount of time on it, I consulted others and learned that nobody has been able to solve this problem for multiple semesters. I wonder if there is a typo in the statement or if I just haven't been rigorous enough? Here is the question:



$$textGiven sint + cost = a, text find an equivalent expression for sin^4t + cos^4t text in terms of a.$$



Has anybody seen this one before? I tried (among other things) this (which is an approximation of an earlier attempt):



$(sint + cost)^4$ and using whatever identities I could remember;



$(sint + cost)^4 = sin^4t + cos^4(t) + 4sintcos^3t + 6sin^2tcos^2t + 4sin^3tcost$



so then



$beginalign
sin^4t + cos^4t &= (sint + cost)^4 - 4sintcos^3t - 6sin^2tcos^2t - 4sin^3tcost\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(2cos^2t + 3sintcost + 2sin^2t)\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)\
&= a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)
endalign$



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  • first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
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  • By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
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    $$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
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I received this question from a student's trigonometry review assignment. After spending an embarrassing amount of time on it, I consulted others and learned that nobody has been able to solve this problem for multiple semesters. I wonder if there is a typo in the statement or if I just haven't been rigorous enough? Here is the question:



$$textGiven sint + cost = a, text find an equivalent expression for sin^4t + cos^4t text in terms of a.$$



Has anybody seen this one before? I tried (among other things) this (which is an approximation of an earlier attempt):



$(sint + cost)^4$ and using whatever identities I could remember;



$(sint + cost)^4 = sin^4t + cos^4(t) + 4sintcos^3t + 6sin^2tcos^2t + 4sin^3tcost$



so then



$beginalign
sin^4t + cos^4t &= (sint + cost)^4 - 4sintcos^3t - 6sin^2tcos^2t - 4sin^3tcost\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(2cos^2t + 3sintcost + 2sin^2t)\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)\
&= a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)
endalign$



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  • first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
    – Nosrati
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  • By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
    – Micah
    Sep 5 at 4:55







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    $$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
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I received this question from a student's trigonometry review assignment. After spending an embarrassing amount of time on it, I consulted others and learned that nobody has been able to solve this problem for multiple semesters. I wonder if there is a typo in the statement or if I just haven't been rigorous enough? Here is the question:



$$textGiven sint + cost = a, text find an equivalent expression for sin^4t + cos^4t text in terms of a.$$



Has anybody seen this one before? I tried (among other things) this (which is an approximation of an earlier attempt):



$(sint + cost)^4$ and using whatever identities I could remember;



$(sint + cost)^4 = sin^4t + cos^4(t) + 4sintcos^3t + 6sin^2tcos^2t + 4sin^3tcost$



so then



$beginalign
sin^4t + cos^4t &= (sint + cost)^4 - 4sintcos^3t - 6sin^2tcos^2t - 4sin^3tcost\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(2cos^2t + 3sintcost + 2sin^2t)\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)\
&= a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)
endalign$



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I received this question from a student's trigonometry review assignment. After spending an embarrassing amount of time on it, I consulted others and learned that nobody has been able to solve this problem for multiple semesters. I wonder if there is a typo in the statement or if I just haven't been rigorous enough? Here is the question:



$$textGiven sint + cost = a, text find an equivalent expression for sin^4t + cos^4t text in terms of a.$$



Has anybody seen this one before? I tried (among other things) this (which is an approximation of an earlier attempt):



$(sint + cost)^4$ and using whatever identities I could remember;



$(sint + cost)^4 = sin^4t + cos^4(t) + 4sintcos^3t + 6sin^2tcos^2t + 4sin^3tcost$



so then



$beginalign
sin^4t + cos^4t &= (sint + cost)^4 - 4sintcos^3t - 6sin^2tcos^2t - 4sin^3tcost\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(2cos^2t + 3sintcost + 2sin^2t)\
&= (sint + cost)^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)\
&= a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 4)
endalign$



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  • first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
    – Nosrati
    Sep 5 at 4:46










  • By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
    – Micah
    Sep 5 at 4:55







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    $$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
    – Nosrati
    Sep 5 at 4:57
















  • first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
    – Nosrati
    Sep 5 at 4:46










  • By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
    – Micah
    Sep 5 at 4:55







  • 1




    $$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
    – Nosrati
    Sep 5 at 4:57















first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
– Nosrati
Sep 5 at 4:46




first that $2cos^2+2sin^2=2$
– Nosrati
Sep 5 at 4:46












By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
– Micah
Sep 5 at 4:55





By the fundamental theorem of symmetric polynomials, once you've written $sin t cos t$ in terms of $a$ you can write any polynomial expression which is symmetric in $sin t$ and $cos t$ in terms of $a$.
– Micah
Sep 5 at 4:55





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$$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
– Nosrati
Sep 5 at 4:57




$$a^4 - 2sintcost(3sintcost + 2)=a^4 - 2dfraca^2-12(3dfraca^2-12 + 2)=colorbluedfrac-a^4+2a^2+12$$
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$$(sin t + cos t )^2= a^2rightarrow sin tcos t=dfraca^2-12$$
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$$cos^4t + sin^4t=(cos^2t + sin^2t)^2-2cos^2t sin^2t=1-2left(dfraca^2-12right)^2$$






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$$sin t+cos t=a\(sin t + cos t)^2=a^2\2sin t cos t=a^2-1
\(sin t + cos t)^4=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t+4sin t cos t (sin^2 t+cos^2 t)+6sin^2 t cos^2 t=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t +2(a^2-1)+frac 32(a^2-1)^2=a^4\
sin^4 t+cos^4 t=a^4-2(a^2-1)-frac 32(a^2-1)^2$$






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    Alternatively, note that:
    $$beginalignsin t+cos t=a Rightarrow sinleft(t+fracpi4right)=frac asqrt2 Rightarrow t&=arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4\
    sin t=sin left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2-sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2;\
    &=frac12left(a-sqrt2-a^2right);\
    cos t=cos left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2+frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2=\
    &=frac12left(sqrt2-a^2+aright).endalign$$
    Hence:
    $$beginalignsin^4t+cos^4t&=frac216cdot left(a^4+6a^2left(2-a^2right)+(2-a^2)^2right)=\
    &=-fraca^42+a^2+frac12. endalign$$






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      If $sin x+cos x=a,a^2=1+2sin xcos xiffsin xcos x=dfraca^2-12 $



      $$sin^n+2x+cos^n+2x=sin^nx(1-cos^2x)+cos^nx(1-sin^2x)$$



      If $I_m=sin^mx+cos^mx,I_2=1,I_0=2$



      $$I_n+2=I_n-(sin xcos x)^2I_n-2$$



      Here $n=2$






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        $$(sin t + cos t )^2= a^2rightarrow sin tcos t=dfraca^2-12$$
        then
        $$cos^4t + sin^4t=(cos^2t + sin^2t)^2-2cos^2t sin^2t=1-2left(dfraca^2-12right)^2$$






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        • Very nice, don't know how I missed that first line, but that's always math in hindsight. Very smart limiting next expansion to squares.
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        $$(sin t + cos t )^2= a^2rightarrow sin tcos t=dfraca^2-12$$
        then
        $$cos^4t + sin^4t=(cos^2t + sin^2t)^2-2cos^2t sin^2t=1-2left(dfraca^2-12right)^2$$






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        $$(sin t + cos t )^2= a^2rightarrow sin tcos t=dfraca^2-12$$
        then
        $$cos^4t + sin^4t=(cos^2t + sin^2t)^2-2cos^2t sin^2t=1-2left(dfraca^2-12right)^2$$






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        $$(sin t + cos t )^2= a^2rightarrow sin tcos t=dfraca^2-12$$
        then
        $$cos^4t + sin^4t=(cos^2t + sin^2t)^2-2cos^2t sin^2t=1-2left(dfraca^2-12right)^2$$







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        • Very nice, don't know how I missed that first line, but that's always math in hindsight. Very smart limiting next expansion to squares.
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        • Very nice, don't know how I missed that first line, but that's always math in hindsight. Very smart limiting next expansion to squares.
          – hatinacat2000
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        Very nice, don't know how I missed that first line, but that's always math in hindsight. Very smart limiting next expansion to squares.
        – hatinacat2000
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        Very nice, don't know how I missed that first line, but that's always math in hindsight. Very smart limiting next expansion to squares.
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        $$sin t+cos t=a\(sin t + cos t)^2=a^2\2sin t cos t=a^2-1
        \(sin t + cos t)^4=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t+4sin t cos t (sin^2 t+cos^2 t)+6sin^2 t cos^2 t=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t +2(a^2-1)+frac 32(a^2-1)^2=a^4\
        sin^4 t+cos^4 t=a^4-2(a^2-1)-frac 32(a^2-1)^2$$






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          $$sin t+cos t=a\(sin t + cos t)^2=a^2\2sin t cos t=a^2-1
          \(sin t + cos t)^4=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t+4sin t cos t (sin^2 t+cos^2 t)+6sin^2 t cos^2 t=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t +2(a^2-1)+frac 32(a^2-1)^2=a^4\
          sin^4 t+cos^4 t=a^4-2(a^2-1)-frac 32(a^2-1)^2$$






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            $$sin t+cos t=a\(sin t + cos t)^2=a^2\2sin t cos t=a^2-1
            \(sin t + cos t)^4=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t+4sin t cos t (sin^2 t+cos^2 t)+6sin^2 t cos^2 t=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t +2(a^2-1)+frac 32(a^2-1)^2=a^4\
            sin^4 t+cos^4 t=a^4-2(a^2-1)-frac 32(a^2-1)^2$$






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            $$sin t+cos t=a\(sin t + cos t)^2=a^2\2sin t cos t=a^2-1
            \(sin t + cos t)^4=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t+4sin t cos t (sin^2 t+cos^2 t)+6sin^2 t cos^2 t=a^4\ sin^4 t + cos^4 t +2(a^2-1)+frac 32(a^2-1)^2=a^4\
            sin^4 t+cos^4 t=a^4-2(a^2-1)-frac 32(a^2-1)^2$$







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                Alternatively, note that:
                $$beginalignsin t+cos t=a Rightarrow sinleft(t+fracpi4right)=frac asqrt2 Rightarrow t&=arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4\
                sin t=sin left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2-sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2;\
                &=frac12left(a-sqrt2-a^2right);\
                cos t=cos left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2+frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2=\
                &=frac12left(sqrt2-a^2+aright).endalign$$
                Hence:
                $$beginalignsin^4t+cos^4t&=frac216cdot left(a^4+6a^2left(2-a^2right)+(2-a^2)^2right)=\
                &=-fraca^42+a^2+frac12. endalign$$






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                  Alternatively, note that:
                  $$beginalignsin t+cos t=a Rightarrow sinleft(t+fracpi4right)=frac asqrt2 Rightarrow t&=arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4\
                  sin t=sin left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2-sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2;\
                  &=frac12left(a-sqrt2-a^2right);\
                  cos t=cos left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2+frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2=\
                  &=frac12left(sqrt2-a^2+aright).endalign$$
                  Hence:
                  $$beginalignsin^4t+cos^4t&=frac216cdot left(a^4+6a^2left(2-a^2right)+(2-a^2)^2right)=\
                  &=-fraca^42+a^2+frac12. endalign$$






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                    Alternatively, note that:
                    $$beginalignsin t+cos t=a Rightarrow sinleft(t+fracpi4right)=frac asqrt2 Rightarrow t&=arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4\
                    sin t=sin left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2-sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2;\
                    &=frac12left(a-sqrt2-a^2right);\
                    cos t=cos left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2+frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2=\
                    &=frac12left(sqrt2-a^2+aright).endalign$$
                    Hence:
                    $$beginalignsin^4t+cos^4t&=frac216cdot left(a^4+6a^2left(2-a^2right)+(2-a^2)^2right)=\
                    &=-fraca^42+a^2+frac12. endalign$$






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                    Alternatively, note that:
                    $$beginalignsin t+cos t=a Rightarrow sinleft(t+fracpi4right)=frac asqrt2 Rightarrow t&=arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4\
                    sin t=sin left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2-sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2;\
                    &=frac12left(a-sqrt2-a^2right);\
                    cos t=cos left(arcsin frac asqrt2-fracpi4right)&=sqrt1-fraca^22cdot frac1sqrt2+frac asqrt2cdot frac 1sqrt2=\
                    &=frac12left(sqrt2-a^2+aright).endalign$$
                    Hence:
                    $$beginalignsin^4t+cos^4t&=frac216cdot left(a^4+6a^2left(2-a^2right)+(2-a^2)^2right)=\
                    &=-fraca^42+a^2+frac12. endalign$$







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                        If $sin x+cos x=a,a^2=1+2sin xcos xiffsin xcos x=dfraca^2-12 $



                        $$sin^n+2x+cos^n+2x=sin^nx(1-cos^2x)+cos^nx(1-sin^2x)$$



                        If $I_m=sin^mx+cos^mx,I_2=1,I_0=2$



                        $$I_n+2=I_n-(sin xcos x)^2I_n-2$$



                        Here $n=2$






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                          If $sin x+cos x=a,a^2=1+2sin xcos xiffsin xcos x=dfraca^2-12 $



                          $$sin^n+2x+cos^n+2x=sin^nx(1-cos^2x)+cos^nx(1-sin^2x)$$



                          If $I_m=sin^mx+cos^mx,I_2=1,I_0=2$



                          $$I_n+2=I_n-(sin xcos x)^2I_n-2$$



                          Here $n=2$






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                            If $sin x+cos x=a,a^2=1+2sin xcos xiffsin xcos x=dfraca^2-12 $



                            $$sin^n+2x+cos^n+2x=sin^nx(1-cos^2x)+cos^nx(1-sin^2x)$$



                            If $I_m=sin^mx+cos^mx,I_2=1,I_0=2$



                            $$I_n+2=I_n-(sin xcos x)^2I_n-2$$



                            Here $n=2$






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                            If $sin x+cos x=a,a^2=1+2sin xcos xiffsin xcos x=dfraca^2-12 $



                            $$sin^n+2x+cos^n+2x=sin^nx(1-cos^2x)+cos^nx(1-sin^2x)$$



                            If $I_m=sin^mx+cos^mx,I_2=1,I_0=2$



                            $$I_n+2=I_n-(sin xcos x)^2I_n-2$$



                            Here $n=2$







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