Solve the given differential equation $(D^2+1)^2y= 24 x cos x$

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$$(D^2+1)^2y= 24 x cos x$$
given that $y=Dy=D^2y=0$ and $D^3 y=12$ when $x=0$



A part of the solution I got but finding difficulty in the other part.
Let it be y= y1 +y2
$y1=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$
For Integral part i was struck at
$$y2=(1/(D^2+1)^2)24x cosx $$
$$y2=-12i (1/(D^2+1))[(1/D-i)-(1/D+i)]xe^ix$$



The answer is $y=3x^2sinx-x^3cosx$










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    What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
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  • This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
    – Bharath Teja
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$$(D^2+1)^2y= 24 x cos x$$
given that $y=Dy=D^2y=0$ and $D^3 y=12$ when $x=0$



A part of the solution I got but finding difficulty in the other part.
Let it be y= y1 +y2
$y1=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$
For Integral part i was struck at
$$y2=(1/(D^2+1)^2)24x cosx $$
$$y2=-12i (1/(D^2+1))[(1/D-i)-(1/D+i)]xe^ix$$



The answer is $y=3x^2sinx-x^3cosx$










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    What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 7:00










  • This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:24












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$$(D^2+1)^2y= 24 x cos x$$
given that $y=Dy=D^2y=0$ and $D^3 y=12$ when $x=0$



A part of the solution I got but finding difficulty in the other part.
Let it be y= y1 +y2
$y1=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$
For Integral part i was struck at
$$y2=(1/(D^2+1)^2)24x cosx $$
$$y2=-12i (1/(D^2+1))[(1/D-i)-(1/D+i)]xe^ix$$



The answer is $y=3x^2sinx-x^3cosx$










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$$(D^2+1)^2y= 24 x cos x$$
given that $y=Dy=D^2y=0$ and $D^3 y=12$ when $x=0$



A part of the solution I got but finding difficulty in the other part.
Let it be y= y1 +y2
$y1=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$
For Integral part i was struck at
$$y2=(1/(D^2+1)^2)24x cosx $$
$$y2=-12i (1/(D^2+1))[(1/D-i)-(1/D+i)]xe^ix$$



The answer is $y=3x^2sinx-x^3cosx$







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    What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 7:00










  • This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:24












  • 1




    What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 7:00










  • This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:24







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What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
– orion
Sep 5 at 7:00




What did you try and how far did you get? We need to know where the problem is.
– orion
Sep 5 at 7:00












This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
– Bharath Teja
Sep 5 at 8:24




This problem was asked in UPSC CSE mathematics optional paper. Its an exam for Civil services in India. I am finding difficulty in particular integral.
– Bharath Teja
Sep 5 at 8:24










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It's a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. This way you immediately know that the homogeneous solutions will be exponential/trigonometric and if there are any duplicate roots of the characteristic equations (there are, as you can see the left side is already factorized), you will get polynomial*exponential/trigonometric, too. The particular solution also follows the familiar procedure with trial functions in this case.



However, this question looks like it's made for Laplace transform. Just substitute $D$ with $s$ on the left, find the laplace transform of the right hand side from the tables, and invert the transform (you will need the initial conditions in this step).






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  • Thanks for your nice comment. +
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Since the question shows no try, so this is just a hint. Take $$y=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$$ and find the unknown coefficients.






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  • This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:18










  • You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 8:36










  • I edited the question please see it.
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    Sep 6 at 5:35










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It's a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. This way you immediately know that the homogeneous solutions will be exponential/trigonometric and if there are any duplicate roots of the characteristic equations (there are, as you can see the left side is already factorized), you will get polynomial*exponential/trigonometric, too. The particular solution also follows the familiar procedure with trial functions in this case.



However, this question looks like it's made for Laplace transform. Just substitute $D$ with $s$ on the left, find the laplace transform of the right hand side from the tables, and invert the transform (you will need the initial conditions in this step).






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Thanks for your nice comment. +
    – mrs
    Sep 5 at 10:37














up vote
1
down vote













It's a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. This way you immediately know that the homogeneous solutions will be exponential/trigonometric and if there are any duplicate roots of the characteristic equations (there are, as you can see the left side is already factorized), you will get polynomial*exponential/trigonometric, too. The particular solution also follows the familiar procedure with trial functions in this case.



However, this question looks like it's made for Laplace transform. Just substitute $D$ with $s$ on the left, find the laplace transform of the right hand side from the tables, and invert the transform (you will need the initial conditions in this step).






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Thanks for your nice comment. +
    – mrs
    Sep 5 at 10:37












up vote
1
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up vote
1
down vote









It's a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. This way you immediately know that the homogeneous solutions will be exponential/trigonometric and if there are any duplicate roots of the characteristic equations (there are, as you can see the left side is already factorized), you will get polynomial*exponential/trigonometric, too. The particular solution also follows the familiar procedure with trial functions in this case.



However, this question looks like it's made for Laplace transform. Just substitute $D$ with $s$ on the left, find the laplace transform of the right hand side from the tables, and invert the transform (you will need the initial conditions in this step).






share|cite|improve this answer












It's a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. This way you immediately know that the homogeneous solutions will be exponential/trigonometric and if there are any duplicate roots of the characteristic equations (there are, as you can see the left side is already factorized), you will get polynomial*exponential/trigonometric, too. The particular solution also follows the familiar procedure with trial functions in this case.



However, this question looks like it's made for Laplace transform. Just substitute $D$ with $s$ on the left, find the laplace transform of the right hand side from the tables, and invert the transform (you will need the initial conditions in this step).







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answered Sep 5 at 7:08









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  • Thanks for your nice comment. +
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  • Thanks for your nice comment. +
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    Sep 5 at 10:37















Thanks for your nice comment. +
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Thanks for your nice comment. +
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Since the question shows no try, so this is just a hint. Take $$y=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$$ and find the unknown coefficients.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:18










  • You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 8:36










  • I edited the question please see it.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 6 at 5:35














up vote
1
down vote













Since the question shows no try, so this is just a hint. Take $$y=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$$ and find the unknown coefficients.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:18










  • You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 8:36










  • I edited the question please see it.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 6 at 5:35












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1
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up vote
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Since the question shows no try, so this is just a hint. Take $$y=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$$ and find the unknown coefficients.






share|cite|improve this answer












Since the question shows no try, so this is just a hint. Take $$y=(A+Bx)sin(x)+(C+Dx)cos(x)$$ and find the unknown coefficients.







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answered Sep 5 at 7:35









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  • This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:18










  • You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 8:36










  • I edited the question please see it.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 6 at 5:35
















  • This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 5 at 8:18










  • You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
    – orion
    Sep 5 at 8:36










  • I edited the question please see it.
    – Bharath Teja
    Sep 6 at 5:35















This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
– Bharath Teja
Sep 5 at 8:18




This is part of solution. We need to find Particular integral too.,
– Bharath Teja
Sep 5 at 8:18












You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
– orion
Sep 5 at 8:36




You see that $x cos x$ and $xsin x$ are already in the homogeneous solution. The procedure is then to increase the polynomial order until you get a match. Because $sin$ and $cos$ are not independent in this sense, you always need to include both. Try $(ax^2+bx+c)cos x+(dx^2+fx+g)sin x$.
– orion
Sep 5 at 8:36












I edited the question please see it.
– Bharath Teja
Sep 6 at 5:35




I edited the question please see it.
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