How to collect gases on Moon and in space?

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On Earth if you need to collect gases you can use passive hood exhaust under a fusion (convection), or just under hot liquid, or use vacuum pumps for catch gases together with air.



In the space or on Moon there are no convection and atmosphere so we can not use these methods.
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On Earth if you need to collect gases you can use passive hood exhaust under a fusion (convection), or just under hot liquid, or use vacuum pumps for catch gases together with air.



In the space or on Moon there are no convection and atmosphere so we can not use these methods.
What is best practices for aggregate gas in open space and on Moon?










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  • Could you clarify the purpose of gas collection?
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On Earth if you need to collect gases you can use passive hood exhaust under a fusion (convection), or just under hot liquid, or use vacuum pumps for catch gases together with air.



In the space or on Moon there are no convection and atmosphere so we can not use these methods.
What is best practices for aggregate gas in open space and on Moon?










share|improve this question













On Earth if you need to collect gases you can use passive hood exhaust under a fusion (convection), or just under hot liquid, or use vacuum pumps for catch gases together with air.



In the space or on Moon there are no convection and atmosphere so we can not use these methods.
What is best practices for aggregate gas in open space and on Moon?







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  • Could you clarify the purpose of gas collection?
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  • Could you clarify the purpose of gas collection?
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The atmosphere of the moon is very rarefied, and is usually considered as vacuum. But if you really want to collect the sparse molecules and atoms present around its vicinity or even in deep space, you could have two approaches:



If you are in movement, for example in orbit around the moon, you could use an "intake" as the one employed in Air-breathing Electric Propulsion or in the Bussard Ramjet. The image below shows the test setup of an intake developed by ESA and SITAEL for an Air-breathing electric thruster.



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If you want a static solution, you could use one of molecular vacuum pump concepts that don't require convection, as the:




  • Cryopump:




    A cryopump or a "cryogenic pump" is a vacuum pump that traps gases
    and vapours by condensing them on a cold surface (...)





  • Turbomolecular pump:




    These pumps work on the principle that gas molecules can be given momentum in a desired direction by repeated collision with a moving solid surface.





  • Diffusion pump:




    (...) use a high speed jet of vapor to direct gas molecules in the pump throat down into the bottom of the pump and out the exhaust.





  • Getter:




    A getter is a deposit of reactive material that is placed inside a vacuum system, for the purpose of completing and maintaining the vacuum. When gas molecules strike the getter material, they combine with it chemically or by absorption. Thus the getter removes small amounts of gas from the evacuated space.




or even an




  • Ion pump:


    An ion pump ionizes gas within the vessel it is attached to and employs a strong electrical potential, typically 3–7 kV, which allows the ions to accelerate into and be captured by a solid electrode and its residue.




After using one of these devices you could redirect the gas flow to a container or propose some system to collect the condensed material from the Cryopump, for example. Of course there are many other devices capable of performing this capture of particles, and I cited here just some of them in order to give you some ideas!






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  • Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 14:59






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    There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:31

















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If you want to study gases on a planet or in near-vacuum:



Mass spectrometer.



The main advantage of mass spectrometer (MS) is that it can register very tiny portions of gas/plasma. Also vacuum or near-vacuum is ideal for it - on Earth MS have vacuum pump to be functional.



Very many spacecraft had MS, often even two or more specialised mass spectrometers.



Examples:



Cassini had two



  1. Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS)


  2. Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS)


Juno have two



  1. Jovian Auroral Distributions Experiment (JADE) for low-energy particles


  2. Jupiter Energetic-particle Detector Instrument (JEDI) for hi-energy particles


MMS mission studuing Earth's magnetoshere have even more:




The Hot Plasma Suite measures plasma particle counts, directions, and
energies during reconnection. It consists of two instruments:



Fast Plasma Investigation (FPI), a set of four dual electron
spectrometers and four dual ion spectrometers. Hot Plasma Composition
Analyzer (HPCA), detects particle speed in order to determine its mass
and type. The Energetic Particles Detector Suite detects particles at
energies far exceeding those detected by the Hot Plasma Suite. It
consists of two instruments:



Fly's Eye Energetic Particle Sensor (FEEPS), a set of silicon solid
state detectors to measure electron energy. Between two FEEPS per
spacecraft, the individual detectors are arranged to provide 18
different view angles simultaneously; hence the term "fly's eye".
Energetic Ion Spectrometer (EIS), measures energy and total velocity
of detected ions in order to determine their mass. The EIS can detect
helium and oxygen ions at energies higher than that of the HPCA.




Several specialised mass spectrometers are better than one "jack-of-all-kinds" spectrometer. The partcles catched are very different - neutral atoms and molecules, heavy ions, light ions, electrons. They also can be slow and fast (even at relativistic speed).






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    A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:38











  • @Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 19:25










  • Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 19:28










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The atmosphere of the moon is very rarefied, and is usually considered as vacuum. But if you really want to collect the sparse molecules and atoms present around its vicinity or even in deep space, you could have two approaches:



If you are in movement, for example in orbit around the moon, you could use an "intake" as the one employed in Air-breathing Electric Propulsion or in the Bussard Ramjet. The image below shows the test setup of an intake developed by ESA and SITAEL for an Air-breathing electric thruster.



$hskip1.7in$enter image description here



If you want a static solution, you could use one of molecular vacuum pump concepts that don't require convection, as the:




  • Cryopump:




    A cryopump or a "cryogenic pump" is a vacuum pump that traps gases
    and vapours by condensing them on a cold surface (...)





  • Turbomolecular pump:




    These pumps work on the principle that gas molecules can be given momentum in a desired direction by repeated collision with a moving solid surface.





  • Diffusion pump:




    (...) use a high speed jet of vapor to direct gas molecules in the pump throat down into the bottom of the pump and out the exhaust.





  • Getter:




    A getter is a deposit of reactive material that is placed inside a vacuum system, for the purpose of completing and maintaining the vacuum. When gas molecules strike the getter material, they combine with it chemically or by absorption. Thus the getter removes small amounts of gas from the evacuated space.




or even an




  • Ion pump:


    An ion pump ionizes gas within the vessel it is attached to and employs a strong electrical potential, typically 3–7 kV, which allows the ions to accelerate into and be captured by a solid electrode and its residue.




After using one of these devices you could redirect the gas flow to a container or propose some system to collect the condensed material from the Cryopump, for example. Of course there are many other devices capable of performing this capture of particles, and I cited here just some of them in order to give you some ideas!






share|improve this answer






















  • Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 14:59






  • 1




    There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:31














up vote
14
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The atmosphere of the moon is very rarefied, and is usually considered as vacuum. But if you really want to collect the sparse molecules and atoms present around its vicinity or even in deep space, you could have two approaches:



If you are in movement, for example in orbit around the moon, you could use an "intake" as the one employed in Air-breathing Electric Propulsion or in the Bussard Ramjet. The image below shows the test setup of an intake developed by ESA and SITAEL for an Air-breathing electric thruster.



$hskip1.7in$enter image description here



If you want a static solution, you could use one of molecular vacuum pump concepts that don't require convection, as the:




  • Cryopump:




    A cryopump or a "cryogenic pump" is a vacuum pump that traps gases
    and vapours by condensing them on a cold surface (...)





  • Turbomolecular pump:




    These pumps work on the principle that gas molecules can be given momentum in a desired direction by repeated collision with a moving solid surface.





  • Diffusion pump:




    (...) use a high speed jet of vapor to direct gas molecules in the pump throat down into the bottom of the pump and out the exhaust.





  • Getter:




    A getter is a deposit of reactive material that is placed inside a vacuum system, for the purpose of completing and maintaining the vacuum. When gas molecules strike the getter material, they combine with it chemically or by absorption. Thus the getter removes small amounts of gas from the evacuated space.




or even an




  • Ion pump:


    An ion pump ionizes gas within the vessel it is attached to and employs a strong electrical potential, typically 3–7 kV, which allows the ions to accelerate into and be captured by a solid electrode and its residue.




After using one of these devices you could redirect the gas flow to a container or propose some system to collect the condensed material from the Cryopump, for example. Of course there are many other devices capable of performing this capture of particles, and I cited here just some of them in order to give you some ideas!






share|improve this answer






















  • Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 14:59






  • 1




    There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:31












up vote
14
down vote










up vote
14
down vote









The atmosphere of the moon is very rarefied, and is usually considered as vacuum. But if you really want to collect the sparse molecules and atoms present around its vicinity or even in deep space, you could have two approaches:



If you are in movement, for example in orbit around the moon, you could use an "intake" as the one employed in Air-breathing Electric Propulsion or in the Bussard Ramjet. The image below shows the test setup of an intake developed by ESA and SITAEL for an Air-breathing electric thruster.



$hskip1.7in$enter image description here



If you want a static solution, you could use one of molecular vacuum pump concepts that don't require convection, as the:




  • Cryopump:




    A cryopump or a "cryogenic pump" is a vacuum pump that traps gases
    and vapours by condensing them on a cold surface (...)





  • Turbomolecular pump:




    These pumps work on the principle that gas molecules can be given momentum in a desired direction by repeated collision with a moving solid surface.





  • Diffusion pump:




    (...) use a high speed jet of vapor to direct gas molecules in the pump throat down into the bottom of the pump and out the exhaust.





  • Getter:




    A getter is a deposit of reactive material that is placed inside a vacuum system, for the purpose of completing and maintaining the vacuum. When gas molecules strike the getter material, they combine with it chemically or by absorption. Thus the getter removes small amounts of gas from the evacuated space.




or even an




  • Ion pump:


    An ion pump ionizes gas within the vessel it is attached to and employs a strong electrical potential, typically 3–7 kV, which allows the ions to accelerate into and be captured by a solid electrode and its residue.




After using one of these devices you could redirect the gas flow to a container or propose some system to collect the condensed material from the Cryopump, for example. Of course there are many other devices capable of performing this capture of particles, and I cited here just some of them in order to give you some ideas!






share|improve this answer














The atmosphere of the moon is very rarefied, and is usually considered as vacuum. But if you really want to collect the sparse molecules and atoms present around its vicinity or even in deep space, you could have two approaches:



If you are in movement, for example in orbit around the moon, you could use an "intake" as the one employed in Air-breathing Electric Propulsion or in the Bussard Ramjet. The image below shows the test setup of an intake developed by ESA and SITAEL for an Air-breathing electric thruster.



$hskip1.7in$enter image description here



If you want a static solution, you could use one of molecular vacuum pump concepts that don't require convection, as the:




  • Cryopump:




    A cryopump or a "cryogenic pump" is a vacuum pump that traps gases
    and vapours by condensing them on a cold surface (...)





  • Turbomolecular pump:




    These pumps work on the principle that gas molecules can be given momentum in a desired direction by repeated collision with a moving solid surface.





  • Diffusion pump:




    (...) use a high speed jet of vapor to direct gas molecules in the pump throat down into the bottom of the pump and out the exhaust.





  • Getter:




    A getter is a deposit of reactive material that is placed inside a vacuum system, for the purpose of completing and maintaining the vacuum. When gas molecules strike the getter material, they combine with it chemically or by absorption. Thus the getter removes small amounts of gas from the evacuated space.




or even an




  • Ion pump:


    An ion pump ionizes gas within the vessel it is attached to and employs a strong electrical potential, typically 3–7 kV, which allows the ions to accelerate into and be captured by a solid electrode and its residue.




After using one of these devices you could redirect the gas flow to a container or propose some system to collect the condensed material from the Cryopump, for example. Of course there are many other devices capable of performing this capture of particles, and I cited here just some of them in order to give you some ideas!







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  • Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 14:59






  • 1




    There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:31
















  • Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 14:59






  • 1




    There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:31















Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
– Heopps
Sep 5 at 14:59




Intersting, but.. Was the equipment you described ever used by ACTUAL spacecraft? I suppose weren't, but I can be wrong.
– Heopps
Sep 5 at 14:59




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There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 15:31




There was no requirement in the question for a system that has already be used in a mission. These are the systems we use here on Earth to collect gas/particles in vacuum and they could be easily used in space environment.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 15:31










up vote
-1
down vote













If you want to study gases on a planet or in near-vacuum:



Mass spectrometer.



The main advantage of mass spectrometer (MS) is that it can register very tiny portions of gas/plasma. Also vacuum or near-vacuum is ideal for it - on Earth MS have vacuum pump to be functional.



Very many spacecraft had MS, often even two or more specialised mass spectrometers.



Examples:



Cassini had two



  1. Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS)


  2. Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS)


Juno have two



  1. Jovian Auroral Distributions Experiment (JADE) for low-energy particles


  2. Jupiter Energetic-particle Detector Instrument (JEDI) for hi-energy particles


MMS mission studuing Earth's magnetoshere have even more:




The Hot Plasma Suite measures plasma particle counts, directions, and
energies during reconnection. It consists of two instruments:



Fast Plasma Investigation (FPI), a set of four dual electron
spectrometers and four dual ion spectrometers. Hot Plasma Composition
Analyzer (HPCA), detects particle speed in order to determine its mass
and type. The Energetic Particles Detector Suite detects particles at
energies far exceeding those detected by the Hot Plasma Suite. It
consists of two instruments:



Fly's Eye Energetic Particle Sensor (FEEPS), a set of silicon solid
state detectors to measure electron energy. Between two FEEPS per
spacecraft, the individual detectors are arranged to provide 18
different view angles simultaneously; hence the term "fly's eye".
Energetic Ion Spectrometer (EIS), measures energy and total velocity
of detected ions in order to determine their mass. The EIS can detect
helium and oxygen ions at energies higher than that of the HPCA.




Several specialised mass spectrometers are better than one "jack-of-all-kinds" spectrometer. The partcles catched are very different - neutral atoms and molecules, heavy ions, light ions, electrons. They also can be slow and fast (even at relativistic speed).






share|improve this answer


















  • 1




    A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:38











  • @Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 19:25










  • Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 19:28














up vote
-1
down vote













If you want to study gases on a planet or in near-vacuum:



Mass spectrometer.



The main advantage of mass spectrometer (MS) is that it can register very tiny portions of gas/plasma. Also vacuum or near-vacuum is ideal for it - on Earth MS have vacuum pump to be functional.



Very many spacecraft had MS, often even two or more specialised mass spectrometers.



Examples:



Cassini had two



  1. Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS)


  2. Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS)


Juno have two



  1. Jovian Auroral Distributions Experiment (JADE) for low-energy particles


  2. Jupiter Energetic-particle Detector Instrument (JEDI) for hi-energy particles


MMS mission studuing Earth's magnetoshere have even more:




The Hot Plasma Suite measures plasma particle counts, directions, and
energies during reconnection. It consists of two instruments:



Fast Plasma Investigation (FPI), a set of four dual electron
spectrometers and four dual ion spectrometers. Hot Plasma Composition
Analyzer (HPCA), detects particle speed in order to determine its mass
and type. The Energetic Particles Detector Suite detects particles at
energies far exceeding those detected by the Hot Plasma Suite. It
consists of two instruments:



Fly's Eye Energetic Particle Sensor (FEEPS), a set of silicon solid
state detectors to measure electron energy. Between two FEEPS per
spacecraft, the individual detectors are arranged to provide 18
different view angles simultaneously; hence the term "fly's eye".
Energetic Ion Spectrometer (EIS), measures energy and total velocity
of detected ions in order to determine their mass. The EIS can detect
helium and oxygen ions at energies higher than that of the HPCA.




Several specialised mass spectrometers are better than one "jack-of-all-kinds" spectrometer. The partcles catched are very different - neutral atoms and molecules, heavy ions, light ions, electrons. They also can be slow and fast (even at relativistic speed).






share|improve this answer


















  • 1




    A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:38











  • @Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 19:25










  • Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 19:28












up vote
-1
down vote










up vote
-1
down vote









If you want to study gases on a planet or in near-vacuum:



Mass spectrometer.



The main advantage of mass spectrometer (MS) is that it can register very tiny portions of gas/plasma. Also vacuum or near-vacuum is ideal for it - on Earth MS have vacuum pump to be functional.



Very many spacecraft had MS, often even two or more specialised mass spectrometers.



Examples:



Cassini had two



  1. Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS)


  2. Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS)


Juno have two



  1. Jovian Auroral Distributions Experiment (JADE) for low-energy particles


  2. Jupiter Energetic-particle Detector Instrument (JEDI) for hi-energy particles


MMS mission studuing Earth's magnetoshere have even more:




The Hot Plasma Suite measures plasma particle counts, directions, and
energies during reconnection. It consists of two instruments:



Fast Plasma Investigation (FPI), a set of four dual electron
spectrometers and four dual ion spectrometers. Hot Plasma Composition
Analyzer (HPCA), detects particle speed in order to determine its mass
and type. The Energetic Particles Detector Suite detects particles at
energies far exceeding those detected by the Hot Plasma Suite. It
consists of two instruments:



Fly's Eye Energetic Particle Sensor (FEEPS), a set of silicon solid
state detectors to measure electron energy. Between two FEEPS per
spacecraft, the individual detectors are arranged to provide 18
different view angles simultaneously; hence the term "fly's eye".
Energetic Ion Spectrometer (EIS), measures energy and total velocity
of detected ions in order to determine their mass. The EIS can detect
helium and oxygen ions at energies higher than that of the HPCA.




Several specialised mass spectrometers are better than one "jack-of-all-kinds" spectrometer. The partcles catched are very different - neutral atoms and molecules, heavy ions, light ions, electrons. They also can be slow and fast (even at relativistic speed).






share|improve this answer














If you want to study gases on a planet or in near-vacuum:



Mass spectrometer.



The main advantage of mass spectrometer (MS) is that it can register very tiny portions of gas/plasma. Also vacuum or near-vacuum is ideal for it - on Earth MS have vacuum pump to be functional.



Very many spacecraft had MS, often even two or more specialised mass spectrometers.



Examples:



Cassini had two



  1. Ion and Neutral Mass Spectrometer (INMS)


  2. Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS)


Juno have two



  1. Jovian Auroral Distributions Experiment (JADE) for low-energy particles


  2. Jupiter Energetic-particle Detector Instrument (JEDI) for hi-energy particles


MMS mission studuing Earth's magnetoshere have even more:




The Hot Plasma Suite measures plasma particle counts, directions, and
energies during reconnection. It consists of two instruments:



Fast Plasma Investigation (FPI), a set of four dual electron
spectrometers and four dual ion spectrometers. Hot Plasma Composition
Analyzer (HPCA), detects particle speed in order to determine its mass
and type. The Energetic Particles Detector Suite detects particles at
energies far exceeding those detected by the Hot Plasma Suite. It
consists of two instruments:



Fly's Eye Energetic Particle Sensor (FEEPS), a set of silicon solid
state detectors to measure electron energy. Between two FEEPS per
spacecraft, the individual detectors are arranged to provide 18
different view angles simultaneously; hence the term "fly's eye".
Energetic Ion Spectrometer (EIS), measures energy and total velocity
of detected ions in order to determine their mass. The EIS can detect
helium and oxygen ions at energies higher than that of the HPCA.




Several specialised mass spectrometers are better than one "jack-of-all-kinds" spectrometer. The partcles catched are very different - neutral atoms and molecules, heavy ions, light ions, electrons. They also can be slow and fast (even at relativistic speed).







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    A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:38











  • @Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 19:25










  • Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 19:28












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    A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 15:38











  • @Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
    – Heopps
    Sep 5 at 19:25










  • Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
    – Lui
    Sep 5 at 19:28







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1




A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 15:38





A spectrometer is not a collection device - in the sense that it doesn't use energy to actually trap a considerable particle flow in a container, it merely filters and analyzes particles that enter the device. It wouldn't make much sense to use it as a "pump", but it is interesting to see systems that have already flown.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 15:38













@Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
– Heopps
Sep 5 at 19:25




@Lui my point is - do we need it at all? If the purpose is to study - mass spectrometers are much more practical. I asked OP why to collect gases, let's wait a clarification :)
– Heopps
Sep 5 at 19:25












Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 19:28




Makes sense. My impression was that the question was about gas collection to use it as a propellant or in other "large-scale" process. If you need only a small sample to study the gas composition, you are right, you only need a spectrometer.
– Lui
Sep 5 at 19:28

















 

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