Finding the value for $a$ for which three planes don't intersect

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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.
(Original image here.)
I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.
Some help would be greatly appreciated.
Working:
$x-2y+z=7$
$2x+y-3z=9$
$x+y-az=3$
$4x+2y-6z=18$
$5x-5z=25$
$2x+2y-2az=6$
$3x-2az+z=13$
$15x-15z=75$
$15x-10az+5z=65$
$-15z+10az-5z=10$
$-20z+10az=10$
$2-a=-1/z$
$a=1/z+2$
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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.
(Original image here.)
I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.
Some help would be greatly appreciated.
Working:
$x-2y+z=7$
$2x+y-3z=9$
$x+y-az=3$
$4x+2y-6z=18$
$5x-5z=25$
$2x+2y-2az=6$
$3x-2az+z=13$
$15x-15z=75$
$15x-10az+5z=65$
$-15z+10az-5z=10$
$-20z+10az=10$
$2-a=-1/z$
$a=1/z+2$
vector-spaces systems-of-equations
why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
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Aug 23 at 3:03
@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.
(Original image here.)
I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.
Some help would be greatly appreciated.
Working:
$x-2y+z=7$
$2x+y-3z=9$
$x+y-az=3$
$4x+2y-6z=18$
$5x-5z=25$
$2x+2y-2az=6$
$3x-2az+z=13$
$15x-15z=75$
$15x-10az+5z=65$
$-15z+10az-5z=10$
$-20z+10az=10$
$2-a=-1/z$
$a=1/z+2$
vector-spaces systems-of-equations
Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.
(Original image here.)
I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.
Some help would be greatly appreciated.
Working:
$x-2y+z=7$
$2x+y-3z=9$
$x+y-az=3$
$4x+2y-6z=18$
$5x-5z=25$
$2x+2y-2az=6$
$3x-2az+z=13$
$15x-15z=75$
$15x-10az+5z=65$
$-15z+10az-5z=10$
$-20z+10az=10$
$2-a=-1/z$
$a=1/z+2$
vector-spaces systems-of-equations
edited Aug 23 at 9:10
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why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
â Siong Thye Goh
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@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
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why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03
@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:15
why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03
why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03
@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
â Spica
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@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
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Guide:
We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.
Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.
If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.
Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.
Remark about your attempt:
After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.
Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.
General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.
Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
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The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ ThereâÂÂs only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.
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2 Answers
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active
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active
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active
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down vote
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Guide:
We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.
Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.
If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.
Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.
Remark about your attempt:
After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.
Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.
General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.
Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Guide:
We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.
Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.
If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.
Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.
Remark about your attempt:
After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.
Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.
General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.
Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Guide:
We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.
Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.
If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.
Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.
Remark about your attempt:
After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.
Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.
General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.
Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.
Guide:
We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.
Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.
If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.
Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.
Remark about your attempt:
After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.
Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.
General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.
Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.
edited Aug 23 at 3:34
answered Aug 23 at 3:00
Siong Thye Goh
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Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
add a comment |Â
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:38
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ ThereâÂÂs only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.
add a comment |Â
up vote
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The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ ThereâÂÂs only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.
add a comment |Â
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0
down vote
up vote
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The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ ThereâÂÂs only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.
The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ ThereâÂÂs only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.
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why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
â Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03
@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
â Spica
Aug 23 at 3:15