Finding the value for $a$ for which three planes don't intersect

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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.



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I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.



Some help would be greatly appreciated.



Working:



$x-2y+z=7$



$2x+y-3z=9$



$x+y-az=3$



$4x+2y-6z=18$



$5x-5z=25$



$2x+2y-2az=6$



$3x-2az+z=13$



$15x-15z=75$



$15x-10az+5z=65$



$-15z+10az-5z=10$



$-20z+10az=10$



$2-a=-1/z$



$a=1/z+2$







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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.



(Original image here.)




I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.



Some help would be greatly appreciated.



Working:



$x-2y+z=7$



$2x+y-3z=9$



$x+y-az=3$



$4x+2y-6z=18$



$5x-5z=25$



$2x+2y-2az=6$



$3x-2az+z=13$



$15x-15z=75$



$15x-10az+5z=65$



$-15z+10az-5z=10$



$-20z+10az=10$



$2-a=-1/z$



$a=1/z+2$







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  • why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:03











  • @SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:15













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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.



(Original image here.)




I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.



Some help would be greatly appreciated.



Working:



$x-2y+z=7$



$2x+y-3z=9$



$x+y-az=3$



$4x+2y-6z=18$



$5x-5z=25$



$2x+2y-2az=6$



$3x-2az+z=13$



$15x-15z=75$



$15x-10az+5z=65$



$-15z+10az-5z=10$



$-20z+10az=10$



$2-a=-1/z$



$a=1/z+2$







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Find the value of $a$ for which the three planes
beginalign*
Pi_1 colon phantom2 x - 2y + z &= 7 \
Pi_2 colon 2x + y - 3z &= 9 \
Pi_3 colon phantom2 x + y - az &= 3
endalign*
do not intersect.



(Original image here.)




I'm attempting to solve this problem. I tried solving these equations simultaneously and arrived at $a= 1/z + 2$. I don't know how to continue or if what I've been doing is even correct.



Some help would be greatly appreciated.



Working:



$x-2y+z=7$



$2x+y-3z=9$



$x+y-az=3$



$4x+2y-6z=18$



$5x-5z=25$



$2x+2y-2az=6$



$3x-2az+z=13$



$15x-15z=75$



$15x-10az+5z=65$



$-15z+10az-5z=10$



$-20z+10az=10$



$2-a=-1/z$



$a=1/z+2$









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  • why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:03











  • @SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:15

















  • why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:03











  • @SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:15
















why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
– Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03





why don't you include your working? that way we can point out your mistake and you get to learn more.
– Siong Thye Goh
Aug 23 at 3:03













@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
– Spica
Aug 23 at 3:15





@SiongThyeGoh Working now included. Thanks!
– Spica
Aug 23 at 3:15











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Guide:



  • We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.


  • Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.


  • If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.


  • Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.


Remark about your attempt:



  • After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.


  • Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.


  • General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.


  • Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.






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  • Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:38










  • you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:40

















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The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ There’s only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.






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    Guide:



    • We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.


    • Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.


    • If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.


    • Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.


    Remark about your attempt:



    • After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.


    • Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.


    • General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.


    • Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.






    share|cite|improve this answer






















    • Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
      – Spica
      Aug 23 at 3:38










    • you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Aug 23 at 3:40














    up vote
    0
    down vote



    accepted










    Guide:



    • We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.


    • Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.


    • If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.


    • Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.


    Remark about your attempt:



    • After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.


    • Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.


    • General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.


    • Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.






    share|cite|improve this answer






















    • Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
      – Spica
      Aug 23 at 3:38










    • you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Aug 23 at 3:40












    up vote
    0
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
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    accepted






    Guide:



    • We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.


    • Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.


    • If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.


    • Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.


    Remark about your attempt:



    • After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.


    • Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.


    • General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.


    • Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.






    share|cite|improve this answer














    Guide:



    • We do not want the columns to span $mathbbR^3$ or it will be consistent.


    • Let $C_i$ be the $i$-th column.


    • If the third column is a linear combination of the first two, determine $a_1$ and $a_2$ where $C_3=a_1C_1+a_2C_2$ using the first two rows.


    • Using $a_1$ and $a_2$ that you found in the previous step, you should be able to compute $a$ and verify that it satisfy the condition.


    Remark about your attempt:



    • After you obtain $-20z+10az=10$, we have $z(2-a)=-1$. Now, we note that if $a=2$, then we get a contradiction, which is the value that you are looking for.


    • Suppose $a ne 2$, then you can solve for $z$ in terms of $a$ and in turn solve for $x$ and then $y$.


    • General writing remark for improving readability, you might like to label your equations and include how are each line obtain, which operation was performed.


    • Things will be neater after you learn about Gaussian eliminations.







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    • Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
      – Spica
      Aug 23 at 3:38










    • you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Aug 23 at 3:40
















    • Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
      – Spica
      Aug 23 at 3:38










    • you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
      – Siong Thye Goh
      Aug 23 at 3:40















    Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:38




    Thanks a lot for your help. Is there a way to solve for two unknown constants in three plane equations?
    – Spica
    Aug 23 at 3:38












    you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:40




    you mean given some conditions and what are the possible values that these unknowns take? check out Gaussian elimination, beware of division by zero.
    – Siong Thye Goh
    Aug 23 at 3:40










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    The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ There’s only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.






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      The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ There’s only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.






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        The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ There’s only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.






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        The planes do not intersect iff the system of equations has no solution. A necessary condition for that is that the determinant of the coefficient matrix vanishes. We have $$detbeginbmatrix1&-2&1\2&1&-3\1&1&-aendbmatrix = 10-5a.$$ There’s only one possible value of $a$ for which this determinant is equal to zero. Check this against the original system of equations to eliminate the possibility that you have an infinite number of solutions instead.







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