Derivative of a convolution with respect to another variable

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I have two 2-variable functions
$u=u(x,t), g=g(x,t)$



I want to simplify the expression:



$ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)$



Where $*$ is the convolution of $u$ and $g$ with respect to $x$. My understanding of Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution#Properties
under the title Differentiation yields that



$ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)= fracpartial upartial t*g $



But when I try to prove that I get:



$fracpartialpartial t ( u*g) =fracpartialpartial t int_-infty^infty u(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t) dalpha =
int_-infty^infty fracpartialpartial t u(x-alpha,t)g(alpha,t) dalpha
=int_-infty^infty u'_t(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t)+u(x-alpha,t)g'_t( alpha,t) dalpha =
u'_t*g+u*g'_t ne u'_t*g $



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    I have two 2-variable functions
    $u=u(x,t), g=g(x,t)$



    I want to simplify the expression:



    $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)$



    Where $*$ is the convolution of $u$ and $g$ with respect to $x$. My understanding of Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution#Properties
    under the title Differentiation yields that



    $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)= fracpartial upartial t*g $



    But when I try to prove that I get:



    $fracpartialpartial t ( u*g) =fracpartialpartial t int_-infty^infty u(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t) dalpha =
    int_-infty^infty fracpartialpartial t u(x-alpha,t)g(alpha,t) dalpha
    =int_-infty^infty u'_t(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t)+u(x-alpha,t)g'_t( alpha,t) dalpha =
    u'_t*g+u*g'_t ne u'_t*g $



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      I have two 2-variable functions
      $u=u(x,t), g=g(x,t)$



      I want to simplify the expression:



      $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)$



      Where $*$ is the convolution of $u$ and $g$ with respect to $x$. My understanding of Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution#Properties
      under the title Differentiation yields that



      $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)= fracpartial upartial t*g $



      But when I try to prove that I get:



      $fracpartialpartial t ( u*g) =fracpartialpartial t int_-infty^infty u(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t) dalpha =
      int_-infty^infty fracpartialpartial t u(x-alpha,t)g(alpha,t) dalpha
      =int_-infty^infty u'_t(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t)+u(x-alpha,t)g'_t( alpha,t) dalpha =
      u'_t*g+u*g'_t ne u'_t*g $



      Where am I'm going wrong?







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      I have two 2-variable functions
      $u=u(x,t), g=g(x,t)$



      I want to simplify the expression:



      $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)$



      Where $*$ is the convolution of $u$ and $g$ with respect to $x$. My understanding of Wikipedia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution#Properties
      under the title Differentiation yields that



      $ fracpartialpartial t ( u*g)= fracpartial upartial t*g $



      But when I try to prove that I get:



      $fracpartialpartial t ( u*g) =fracpartialpartial t int_-infty^infty u(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t) dalpha =
      int_-infty^infty fracpartialpartial t u(x-alpha,t)g(alpha,t) dalpha
      =int_-infty^infty u'_t(x-alpha,t)g( alpha,t)+u(x-alpha,t)g'_t( alpha,t) dalpha =
      u'_t*g+u*g'_t ne u'_t*g $



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          The formula you got from Wikipedia holds if are differentiating w.r.t. $x$, not w.r.t. $t$. For differentiation w.r.t $t$ what you have obtained is correct.






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            As the convolution is with respect to $x$ and the differentiation is with respect to $t$, you can't use the formulas from the Wikipedia article. Your derivation looks correct to me.






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              The formula you got from Wikipedia holds if are differentiating w.r.t. $x$, not w.r.t. $t$. For differentiation w.r.t $t$ what you have obtained is correct.






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                The formula you got from Wikipedia holds if are differentiating w.r.t. $x$, not w.r.t. $t$. For differentiation w.r.t $t$ what you have obtained is correct.






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                  The formula you got from Wikipedia holds if are differentiating w.r.t. $x$, not w.r.t. $t$. For differentiation w.r.t $t$ what you have obtained is correct.






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                  The formula you got from Wikipedia holds if are differentiating w.r.t. $x$, not w.r.t. $t$. For differentiation w.r.t $t$ what you have obtained is correct.







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                  answered Aug 21 at 8:00









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                      As the convolution is with respect to $x$ and the differentiation is with respect to $t$, you can't use the formulas from the Wikipedia article. Your derivation looks correct to me.






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                        As the convolution is with respect to $x$ and the differentiation is with respect to $t$, you can't use the formulas from the Wikipedia article. Your derivation looks correct to me.






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                          As the convolution is with respect to $x$ and the differentiation is with respect to $t$, you can't use the formulas from the Wikipedia article. Your derivation looks correct to me.






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                          As the convolution is with respect to $x$ and the differentiation is with respect to $t$, you can't use the formulas from the Wikipedia article. Your derivation looks correct to me.







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