Given $f(x)=-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)$ solve $f(x)=0$.

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I want to find the intersection with the $x$ axis of the following function:



$$f(x)=-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)$$



I need to find



$$f(x)=0$$



So we have



$$-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)=0rightarrow$$



$$lnleft(e^x+2right)=2arctanleft(e^xright)$$



Because of the logarithim, I need to transform the right side into a logarithm as well so that I can eventually "remove" the logarithms and solve the equation, but I don't know how to do that. Any hints?







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    I want to find the intersection with the $x$ axis of the following function:



    $$f(x)=-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)$$



    I need to find



    $$f(x)=0$$



    So we have



    $$-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)=0rightarrow$$



    $$lnleft(e^x+2right)=2arctanleft(e^xright)$$



    Because of the logarithim, I need to transform the right side into a logarithm as well so that I can eventually "remove" the logarithms and solve the equation, but I don't know how to do that. Any hints?







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      I want to find the intersection with the $x$ axis of the following function:



      $$f(x)=-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)$$



      I need to find



      $$f(x)=0$$



      So we have



      $$-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)=0rightarrow$$



      $$lnleft(e^x+2right)=2arctanleft(e^xright)$$



      Because of the logarithim, I need to transform the right side into a logarithm as well so that I can eventually "remove" the logarithms and solve the equation, but I don't know how to do that. Any hints?







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      I want to find the intersection with the $x$ axis of the following function:



      $$f(x)=-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)$$



      I need to find



      $$f(x)=0$$



      So we have



      $$-2arctanleft(e^xright)+lnleft(e^x+2right)=0rightarrow$$



      $$lnleft(e^x+2right)=2arctanleft(e^xright)$$



      Because of the logarithim, I need to transform the right side into a logarithm as well so that I can eventually "remove" the logarithms and solve the equation, but I don't know how to do that. Any hints?









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          Write $t=e^x>0$:



          $$f'(x) = -2e^xover 1+e^2x+ e^xover e^x+2=tt^2-2t-3over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



          $$=t(t-3)(t+1)over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



          so for $xleq ln 3$ it is decresing and for $xgeq ln3$ it is increasing, so it has at most two solutions.






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          • Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
            – Cesare
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          • I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
            – greedoid
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          Hint: You will Need a numericval method, the two Solutions are given by $$xapprox -0.71157913296093670740$$ or $$xapprox 2.9343041578235969617$$






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            A numerical answer cones from the following steps.

            1. Start with $y=e^x=2$.

            2. Take ln

            3. Divide by 2.

            4. Take tangent

            5. add 2

            6. Go to step 2






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              Write $t=e^x>0$:



              $$f'(x) = -2e^xover 1+e^2x+ e^xover e^x+2=tt^2-2t-3over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              $$=t(t-3)(t+1)over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              so for $xleq ln 3$ it is decresing and for $xgeq ln3$ it is increasing, so it has at most two solutions.






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              • Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
                – Cesare
                Aug 21 at 13:38











              • I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
                – greedoid
                Aug 21 at 13:40














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              Write $t=e^x>0$:



              $$f'(x) = -2e^xover 1+e^2x+ e^xover e^x+2=tt^2-2t-3over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              $$=t(t-3)(t+1)over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              so for $xleq ln 3$ it is decresing and for $xgeq ln3$ it is increasing, so it has at most two solutions.






              share|cite|improve this answer




















              • Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
                – Cesare
                Aug 21 at 13:38











              • I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
                – greedoid
                Aug 21 at 13:40












              up vote
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              Write $t=e^x>0$:



              $$f'(x) = -2e^xover 1+e^2x+ e^xover e^x+2=tt^2-2t-3over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              $$=t(t-3)(t+1)over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              so for $xleq ln 3$ it is decresing and for $xgeq ln3$ it is increasing, so it has at most two solutions.






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              Write $t=e^x>0$:



              $$f'(x) = -2e^xover 1+e^2x+ e^xover e^x+2=tt^2-2t-3over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              $$=t(t-3)(t+1)over (t^2+1)(t+2)$$



              so for $xleq ln 3$ it is decresing and for $xgeq ln3$ it is increasing, so it has at most two solutions.







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              answered Aug 21 at 13:36









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              • Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
                – Cesare
                Aug 21 at 13:38











              • I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
                – greedoid
                Aug 21 at 13:40
















              • Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
                – Cesare
                Aug 21 at 13:38











              • I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
                – greedoid
                Aug 21 at 13:40















              Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
              – Cesare
              Aug 21 at 13:38





              Thanks, is differentiating is the only way to go? If so, looks like I have to wait until I know how to properly differentiate.
              – Cesare
              Aug 21 at 13:38













              I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
              – greedoid
              Aug 21 at 13:40




              I don't know. This is only bound for a number of solution to $f(x)=0$. If now you can guess them you are done.
              – greedoid
              Aug 21 at 13:40










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              Hint: You will Need a numericval method, the two Solutions are given by $$xapprox -0.71157913296093670740$$ or $$xapprox 2.9343041578235969617$$






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                Hint: You will Need a numericval method, the two Solutions are given by $$xapprox -0.71157913296093670740$$ or $$xapprox 2.9343041578235969617$$






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                  Hint: You will Need a numericval method, the two Solutions are given by $$xapprox -0.71157913296093670740$$ or $$xapprox 2.9343041578235969617$$






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                  Hint: You will Need a numericval method, the two Solutions are given by $$xapprox -0.71157913296093670740$$ or $$xapprox 2.9343041578235969617$$







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                  answered Aug 21 at 13:41









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                      A numerical answer cones from the following steps.

                      1. Start with $y=e^x=2$.

                      2. Take ln

                      3. Divide by 2.

                      4. Take tangent

                      5. add 2

                      6. Go to step 2






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                        A numerical answer cones from the following steps.

                        1. Start with $y=e^x=2$.

                        2. Take ln

                        3. Divide by 2.

                        4. Take tangent

                        5. add 2

                        6. Go to step 2






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                          A numerical answer cones from the following steps.

                          1. Start with $y=e^x=2$.

                          2. Take ln

                          3. Divide by 2.

                          4. Take tangent

                          5. add 2

                          6. Go to step 2






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                          A numerical answer cones from the following steps.

                          1. Start with $y=e^x=2$.

                          2. Take ln

                          3. Divide by 2.

                          4. Take tangent

                          5. add 2

                          6. Go to step 2







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                          answered Aug 21 at 13:51









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