Median zero and symmetry of the cdf of the difference of two random variables
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In the notation below, let $F_X$ denote the cumulative distribution function (cdf) of a random variable $X$.
Consider the following random variables $epsilon_0,epsilon_1,epsilon_2$. I have two doubts to clarify:
1) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$?
2) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero?
My thoughts:
I think that without further restrictions the answer to both questions is "no". I also think that if $epsilon_1$ and $epsilon_2$ are independent and identically distributed then $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero (and, hence, $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$). I would like your confirmation on this.
Additional question: can you suggest other sets of sufficient restrictions on $epsilon_1$, $epsilon_2$ ensuring median zero and/or symmetry of the cdf of $epsilon_1-epsilon_2$?
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In the notation below, let $F_X$ denote the cumulative distribution function (cdf) of a random variable $X$.
Consider the following random variables $epsilon_0,epsilon_1,epsilon_2$. I have two doubts to clarify:
1) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$?
2) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero?
My thoughts:
I think that without further restrictions the answer to both questions is "no". I also think that if $epsilon_1$ and $epsilon_2$ are independent and identically distributed then $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero (and, hence, $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$). I would like your confirmation on this.
Additional question: can you suggest other sets of sufficient restrictions on $epsilon_1$, $epsilon_2$ ensuring median zero and/or symmetry of the cdf of $epsilon_1-epsilon_2$?
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In the notation below, let $F_X$ denote the cumulative distribution function (cdf) of a random variable $X$.
Consider the following random variables $epsilon_0,epsilon_1,epsilon_2$. I have two doubts to clarify:
1) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$?
2) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero?
My thoughts:
I think that without further restrictions the answer to both questions is "no". I also think that if $epsilon_1$ and $epsilon_2$ are independent and identically distributed then $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero (and, hence, $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$). I would like your confirmation on this.
Additional question: can you suggest other sets of sufficient restrictions on $epsilon_1$, $epsilon_2$ ensuring median zero and/or symmetry of the cdf of $epsilon_1-epsilon_2$?
probability probability-theory probability-distributions random-variables
In the notation below, let $F_X$ denote the cumulative distribution function (cdf) of a random variable $X$.
Consider the following random variables $epsilon_0,epsilon_1,epsilon_2$. I have two doubts to clarify:
1) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$?
2) Assume that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero.
Does this imply that $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero?
My thoughts:
I think that without further restrictions the answer to both questions is "no". I also think that if $epsilon_1$ and $epsilon_2$ are independent and identically distributed then $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is symmetric around zero (and, hence, $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac12$). I would like your confirmation on this.
Additional question: can you suggest other sets of sufficient restrictions on $epsilon_1$, $epsilon_2$ ensuring median zero and/or symmetry of the cdf of $epsilon_1-epsilon_2$?
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For counter-examples, try the following combinations where each row has probability $frac16$:
e0 e1 e2 e1-e0 e2-e0 e1-e2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 1 5 -2 2 -4
-3 -1 -2 2 1 1
-3 -4 -2 -1 1 -2
-3 -4 -5 -1 -2 1
This has
$F_epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_1(0)=F_epsilon_2(0)=F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$ but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac13 not = frac12$
$F_epsilon_0, F_epsilon_1, F_epsilon_2, F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero, but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is not symmetric about anything
For your additional question, as you say, having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and identically distributed (though not necessarily symmetric) would be sufficient, as would having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and symmetric about the same value (but not necessarily identically distributed)
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
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active
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active
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up vote
1
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For counter-examples, try the following combinations where each row has probability $frac16$:
e0 e1 e2 e1-e0 e2-e0 e1-e2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 1 5 -2 2 -4
-3 -1 -2 2 1 1
-3 -4 -2 -1 1 -2
-3 -4 -5 -1 -2 1
This has
$F_epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_1(0)=F_epsilon_2(0)=F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$ but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac13 not = frac12$
$F_epsilon_0, F_epsilon_1, F_epsilon_2, F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero, but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is not symmetric about anything
For your additional question, as you say, having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and identically distributed (though not necessarily symmetric) would be sufficient, as would having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and symmetric about the same value (but not necessarily identically distributed)
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
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up vote
1
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For counter-examples, try the following combinations where each row has probability $frac16$:
e0 e1 e2 e1-e0 e2-e0 e1-e2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 1 5 -2 2 -4
-3 -1 -2 2 1 1
-3 -4 -2 -1 1 -2
-3 -4 -5 -1 -2 1
This has
$F_epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_1(0)=F_epsilon_2(0)=F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$ but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac13 not = frac12$
$F_epsilon_0, F_epsilon_1, F_epsilon_2, F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero, but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is not symmetric about anything
For your additional question, as you say, having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and identically distributed (though not necessarily symmetric) would be sufficient, as would having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and symmetric about the same value (but not necessarily identically distributed)
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
For counter-examples, try the following combinations where each row has probability $frac16$:
e0 e1 e2 e1-e0 e2-e0 e1-e2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 1 5 -2 2 -4
-3 -1 -2 2 1 1
-3 -4 -2 -1 1 -2
-3 -4 -5 -1 -2 1
This has
$F_epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_1(0)=F_epsilon_2(0)=F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$ but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac13 not = frac12$
$F_epsilon_0, F_epsilon_1, F_epsilon_2, F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero, but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is not symmetric about anything
For your additional question, as you say, having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and identically distributed (though not necessarily symmetric) would be sufficient, as would having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and symmetric about the same value (but not necessarily identically distributed)
For counter-examples, try the following combinations where each row has probability $frac16$:
e0 e1 e2 e1-e0 e2-e0 e1-e2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 4 2 1 -1 2
3 1 5 -2 2 -4
-3 -1 -2 2 1 1
-3 -4 -2 -1 1 -2
-3 -4 -5 -1 -2 1
This has
$F_epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_1(0)=F_epsilon_2(0)=F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0(0)=F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0(0)=frac12$ but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2(0)=frac13 not = frac12$
$F_epsilon_0, F_epsilon_1, F_epsilon_2, F_epsilon_1-epsilon_0$ and $F_epsilon_2-epsilon_0$ are symmetric around zero, but $F_epsilon_1-epsilon_2$ is not symmetric about anything
For your additional question, as you say, having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and identically distributed (though not necessarily symmetric) would be sufficient, as would having $epsilon_1,epsilon_2$ independent and symmetric about the same value (but not necessarily identically distributed)
answered Aug 21 at 13:53
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There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
add a comment |Â
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
There is an anomaly over symmetry of a CDF $F_X$ for a discrete random variable (the examples here actually have symmetric PMFs), but it would be possible to constrict a similar example for continuous random variables in a more long winded way
â Henry
Aug 21 at 14:03
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