Most complex “block” of sheet music notation

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Wondering how complex a single piece of sheet music can get, and what it looks like. For example, on the guitar, theoretically you could define the following:



  • a chord

  • bend from another chord

  • bend to another chord

  • hold for 3 beats (dot)

  • wiggle string

I don't have the music software to write the notation at the moment, but a chord might look like:



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or



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I'm wondering if you also took into account the following, how complex you can make it look while still being readable and realistic:



  • How hard you hit the notes.

  • Different sheet music notations for different stringed instruments

  • Guitar petal notations.

  • Temporary time signature changes.

  • Screaming if it is vocals

  • Other vocal features.

  • Etc.

Those are just some ideas to add to the complexity of the sheet music. But basically I'm wondering how complex sheet music can get when it tries to encode every feature possible.



By "complex" I just mean the visible look of the notation, rather than how hard it is to play. Doesn't matter the instrument, just whatever results in some of the more complex notations you can construct.










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    You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
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    Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
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Wondering how complex a single piece of sheet music can get, and what it looks like. For example, on the guitar, theoretically you could define the following:



  • a chord

  • bend from another chord

  • bend to another chord

  • hold for 3 beats (dot)

  • wiggle string

I don't have the music software to write the notation at the moment, but a chord might look like:



enter image description here



or



enter image description here



I'm wondering if you also took into account the following, how complex you can make it look while still being readable and realistic:



  • How hard you hit the notes.

  • Different sheet music notations for different stringed instruments

  • Guitar petal notations.

  • Temporary time signature changes.

  • Screaming if it is vocals

  • Other vocal features.

  • Etc.

Those are just some ideas to add to the complexity of the sheet music. But basically I'm wondering how complex sheet music can get when it tries to encode every feature possible.



By "complex" I just mean the visible look of the notation, rather than how hard it is to play. Doesn't matter the instrument, just whatever results in some of the more complex notations you can construct.










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  • 2




    You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
    – Michael Seifert
    Sep 10 at 13:10










  • For pure aesthetic delight, see: reddit.com/r/sheetmusicporn
    – Kilian Foth
    Sep 10 at 15:02






  • 3




    Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
    – R.M.
    Sep 10 at 15:16










  • Oh wow hahaha..
    – Lance Pollard
    Sep 10 at 15:21












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Wondering how complex a single piece of sheet music can get, and what it looks like. For example, on the guitar, theoretically you could define the following:



  • a chord

  • bend from another chord

  • bend to another chord

  • hold for 3 beats (dot)

  • wiggle string

I don't have the music software to write the notation at the moment, but a chord might look like:



enter image description here



or



enter image description here



I'm wondering if you also took into account the following, how complex you can make it look while still being readable and realistic:



  • How hard you hit the notes.

  • Different sheet music notations for different stringed instruments

  • Guitar petal notations.

  • Temporary time signature changes.

  • Screaming if it is vocals

  • Other vocal features.

  • Etc.

Those are just some ideas to add to the complexity of the sheet music. But basically I'm wondering how complex sheet music can get when it tries to encode every feature possible.



By "complex" I just mean the visible look of the notation, rather than how hard it is to play. Doesn't matter the instrument, just whatever results in some of the more complex notations you can construct.










share|improve this question















Wondering how complex a single piece of sheet music can get, and what it looks like. For example, on the guitar, theoretically you could define the following:



  • a chord

  • bend from another chord

  • bend to another chord

  • hold for 3 beats (dot)

  • wiggle string

I don't have the music software to write the notation at the moment, but a chord might look like:



enter image description here



or



enter image description here



I'm wondering if you also took into account the following, how complex you can make it look while still being readable and realistic:



  • How hard you hit the notes.

  • Different sheet music notations for different stringed instruments

  • Guitar petal notations.

  • Temporary time signature changes.

  • Screaming if it is vocals

  • Other vocal features.

  • Etc.

Those are just some ideas to add to the complexity of the sheet music. But basically I'm wondering how complex sheet music can get when it tries to encode every feature possible.



By "complex" I just mean the visible look of the notation, rather than how hard it is to play. Doesn't matter the instrument, just whatever results in some of the more complex notations you can construct.







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    You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
    – Michael Seifert
    Sep 10 at 13:10










  • For pure aesthetic delight, see: reddit.com/r/sheetmusicporn
    – Kilian Foth
    Sep 10 at 15:02






  • 3




    Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
    – R.M.
    Sep 10 at 15:16










  • Oh wow hahaha..
    – Lance Pollard
    Sep 10 at 15:21












  • 2




    You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
    – Michael Seifert
    Sep 10 at 13:10










  • For pure aesthetic delight, see: reddit.com/r/sheetmusicporn
    – Kilian Foth
    Sep 10 at 15:02






  • 3




    Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
    – R.M.
    Sep 10 at 15:16










  • Oh wow hahaha..
    – Lance Pollard
    Sep 10 at 15:21







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You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
– Michael Seifert
Sep 10 at 13:10




You might find the musicologist Don Byrd's work to be of interest: Extremes of Conventional Music Notation; More Counterexamples in Conventional Music Notation; Gallery of Interesting Music Notation.
– Michael Seifert
Sep 10 at 13:10












For pure aesthetic delight, see: reddit.com/r/sheetmusicporn
– Kilian Foth
Sep 10 at 15:02




For pure aesthetic delight, see: reddit.com/r/sheetmusicporn
– Kilian Foth
Sep 10 at 15:02




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Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
– R.M.
Sep 10 at 15:16




Something that typically comes up in these discussions (but probably doesn't count as it was written as a joke) is "Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz" by John Stump.
– R.M.
Sep 10 at 15:16












Oh wow hahaha..
– Lance Pollard
Sep 10 at 15:21




Oh wow hahaha..
– Lance Pollard
Sep 10 at 15:21










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It's interesting you use the word "complex." I was hesitant to answer for fear that this question was too opinion-based (and it might still be), but your use of this term made the answer very clear: consider the music (and notation) of the New Complexity movement.



To quote directly from an opening line of the Wikipedia article:




Though often atonal, highly abstract, and dissonant in sound, New Complexity music is most readily characterized by the use of techniques which require complex musical notation. (emphasis my own)




Take, for example, this excerpt from Brian Ferneyhough's "Unity Capsule," which only involves two instruments (played by one performer!):



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Ferneyhough is one of the leaders of the New Complexity movement, and any score of his you find will be among the most complex out there.






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    Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
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Among other things, the sheet music might indicate



  • a tempo indication (in bold above everything else) e.g. Allegro

  • a mood indication e.g. espressivo

  • an absolute dynamic, e.g. mf

  • a relative dynamic, e.g. poco cresc.

  • a phrasing slur

  • an articulation mark e.g. . (staccato) or - (tenuto). You sometimes get . and - combined.

  • which finger to use

  • which string to play on

  • (for vocal music) the words





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    It's interesting you use the word "complex." I was hesitant to answer for fear that this question was too opinion-based (and it might still be), but your use of this term made the answer very clear: consider the music (and notation) of the New Complexity movement.



    To quote directly from an opening line of the Wikipedia article:




    Though often atonal, highly abstract, and dissonant in sound, New Complexity music is most readily characterized by the use of techniques which require complex musical notation. (emphasis my own)




    Take, for example, this excerpt from Brian Ferneyhough's "Unity Capsule," which only involves two instruments (played by one performer!):



    enter image description here



    Ferneyhough is one of the leaders of the New Complexity movement, and any score of his you find will be among the most complex out there.






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      Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
      – Rosie F
      Sep 10 at 13:18










    • @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
      – Richard
      Sep 10 at 13:20














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    It's interesting you use the word "complex." I was hesitant to answer for fear that this question was too opinion-based (and it might still be), but your use of this term made the answer very clear: consider the music (and notation) of the New Complexity movement.



    To quote directly from an opening line of the Wikipedia article:




    Though often atonal, highly abstract, and dissonant in sound, New Complexity music is most readily characterized by the use of techniques which require complex musical notation. (emphasis my own)




    Take, for example, this excerpt from Brian Ferneyhough's "Unity Capsule," which only involves two instruments (played by one performer!):



    enter image description here



    Ferneyhough is one of the leaders of the New Complexity movement, and any score of his you find will be among the most complex out there.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 2




      Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
      – Rosie F
      Sep 10 at 13:18










    • @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
      – Richard
      Sep 10 at 13:20












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    It's interesting you use the word "complex." I was hesitant to answer for fear that this question was too opinion-based (and it might still be), but your use of this term made the answer very clear: consider the music (and notation) of the New Complexity movement.



    To quote directly from an opening line of the Wikipedia article:




    Though often atonal, highly abstract, and dissonant in sound, New Complexity music is most readily characterized by the use of techniques which require complex musical notation. (emphasis my own)




    Take, for example, this excerpt from Brian Ferneyhough's "Unity Capsule," which only involves two instruments (played by one performer!):



    enter image description here



    Ferneyhough is one of the leaders of the New Complexity movement, and any score of his you find will be among the most complex out there.






    share|improve this answer














    It's interesting you use the word "complex." I was hesitant to answer for fear that this question was too opinion-based (and it might still be), but your use of this term made the answer very clear: consider the music (and notation) of the New Complexity movement.



    To quote directly from an opening line of the Wikipedia article:




    Though often atonal, highly abstract, and dissonant in sound, New Complexity music is most readily characterized by the use of techniques which require complex musical notation. (emphasis my own)




    Take, for example, this excerpt from Brian Ferneyhough's "Unity Capsule," which only involves two instruments (played by one performer!):



    enter image description here



    Ferneyhough is one of the leaders of the New Complexity movement, and any score of his you find will be among the most complex out there.







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      Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
      – Rosie F
      Sep 10 at 13:18










    • @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
      – Richard
      Sep 10 at 13:20












    • 2




      Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
      – Rosie F
      Sep 10 at 13:18










    • @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
      – Richard
      Sep 10 at 13:20







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    Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
    – Rosie F
    Sep 10 at 13:18




    Not even as many as that! Unity Capsule is for solo flute. The lower line is for "voice" -- breathing-instructions, I guess, I can't read that pic of the score.
    – Rosie F
    Sep 10 at 13:18












    @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
    – Richard
    Sep 10 at 13:20




    @RosieF Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks!
    – Richard
    Sep 10 at 13:20










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    Among other things, the sheet music might indicate



    • a tempo indication (in bold above everything else) e.g. Allegro

    • a mood indication e.g. espressivo

    • an absolute dynamic, e.g. mf

    • a relative dynamic, e.g. poco cresc.

    • a phrasing slur

    • an articulation mark e.g. . (staccato) or - (tenuto). You sometimes get . and - combined.

    • which finger to use

    • which string to play on

    • (for vocal music) the words





    share|improve this answer
























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      Among other things, the sheet music might indicate



      • a tempo indication (in bold above everything else) e.g. Allegro

      • a mood indication e.g. espressivo

      • an absolute dynamic, e.g. mf

      • a relative dynamic, e.g. poco cresc.

      • a phrasing slur

      • an articulation mark e.g. . (staccato) or - (tenuto). You sometimes get . and - combined.

      • which finger to use

      • which string to play on

      • (for vocal music) the words





      share|improve this answer






















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        Among other things, the sheet music might indicate



        • a tempo indication (in bold above everything else) e.g. Allegro

        • a mood indication e.g. espressivo

        • an absolute dynamic, e.g. mf

        • a relative dynamic, e.g. poco cresc.

        • a phrasing slur

        • an articulation mark e.g. . (staccato) or - (tenuto). You sometimes get . and - combined.

        • which finger to use

        • which string to play on

        • (for vocal music) the words





        share|improve this answer












        Among other things, the sheet music might indicate



        • a tempo indication (in bold above everything else) e.g. Allegro

        • a mood indication e.g. espressivo

        • an absolute dynamic, e.g. mf

        • a relative dynamic, e.g. poco cresc.

        • a phrasing slur

        • an articulation mark e.g. . (staccato) or - (tenuto). You sometimes get . and - combined.

        • which finger to use

        • which string to play on

        • (for vocal music) the words






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