A certain step in a proof of König's theorem from Hrbacek-Jech “Introduction to Set Theory”

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I'm trying to understand the proof of König's theorem in set theory using Hrbacek's and Jech's book "Introduction to Set Theory".



In the end, the proof сomes down to a certain result or lemma, which I'm having a trouble with understanding.




Let $(Y_i)_i in I$ be indexed family. Then there can be no indexed family $(Z_i)_i in I$ so that



  • $(forall i,j in I)(i neq j Longrightarrow Z_icap Z_j = varnothing),$


  • $(forall i in I)(|Z_i| < |Y_i|),$


  • $bigcup_i in I Z_i = prod_i in I Y_i$.




Hrbacek and Jech proceed the following way. They defined a new family $(A_i)_i in I$ so that $A_i$ is the subset of $Y_i$ of all elements $y$ for which there is a function $fcolon Itobigcup_i in I Y_i$ in $Z_i$ so that $y = f(i)$. Then they claim that for any $i in I$, $A_i subsetneq Y_i$ since $|A_i| leq |Z_i| < |Y_i|$. This is where is stumble: I don't understand why we have $|A_i| leq |Z_i|$ for each $i in I$.










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    I'm trying to understand the proof of König's theorem in set theory using Hrbacek's and Jech's book "Introduction to Set Theory".



    In the end, the proof сomes down to a certain result or lemma, which I'm having a trouble with understanding.




    Let $(Y_i)_i in I$ be indexed family. Then there can be no indexed family $(Z_i)_i in I$ so that



    • $(forall i,j in I)(i neq j Longrightarrow Z_icap Z_j = varnothing),$


    • $(forall i in I)(|Z_i| < |Y_i|),$


    • $bigcup_i in I Z_i = prod_i in I Y_i$.




    Hrbacek and Jech proceed the following way. They defined a new family $(A_i)_i in I$ so that $A_i$ is the subset of $Y_i$ of all elements $y$ for which there is a function $fcolon Itobigcup_i in I Y_i$ in $Z_i$ so that $y = f(i)$. Then they claim that for any $i in I$, $A_i subsetneq Y_i$ since $|A_i| leq |Z_i| < |Y_i|$. This is where is stumble: I don't understand why we have $|A_i| leq |Z_i|$ for each $i in I$.










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      I'm trying to understand the proof of König's theorem in set theory using Hrbacek's and Jech's book "Introduction to Set Theory".



      In the end, the proof сomes down to a certain result or lemma, which I'm having a trouble with understanding.




      Let $(Y_i)_i in I$ be indexed family. Then there can be no indexed family $(Z_i)_i in I$ so that



      • $(forall i,j in I)(i neq j Longrightarrow Z_icap Z_j = varnothing),$


      • $(forall i in I)(|Z_i| < |Y_i|),$


      • $bigcup_i in I Z_i = prod_i in I Y_i$.




      Hrbacek and Jech proceed the following way. They defined a new family $(A_i)_i in I$ so that $A_i$ is the subset of $Y_i$ of all elements $y$ for which there is a function $fcolon Itobigcup_i in I Y_i$ in $Z_i$ so that $y = f(i)$. Then they claim that for any $i in I$, $A_i subsetneq Y_i$ since $|A_i| leq |Z_i| < |Y_i|$. This is where is stumble: I don't understand why we have $|A_i| leq |Z_i|$ for each $i in I$.










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      I'm trying to understand the proof of König's theorem in set theory using Hrbacek's and Jech's book "Introduction to Set Theory".



      In the end, the proof сomes down to a certain result or lemma, which I'm having a trouble with understanding.




      Let $(Y_i)_i in I$ be indexed family. Then there can be no indexed family $(Z_i)_i in I$ so that



      • $(forall i,j in I)(i neq j Longrightarrow Z_icap Z_j = varnothing),$


      • $(forall i in I)(|Z_i| < |Y_i|),$


      • $bigcup_i in I Z_i = prod_i in I Y_i$.




      Hrbacek and Jech proceed the following way. They defined a new family $(A_i)_i in I$ so that $A_i$ is the subset of $Y_i$ of all elements $y$ for which there is a function $fcolon Itobigcup_i in I Y_i$ in $Z_i$ so that $y = f(i)$. Then they claim that for any $i in I$, $A_i subsetneq Y_i$ since $|A_i| leq |Z_i| < |Y_i|$. This is where is stumble: I don't understand why we have $|A_i| leq |Z_i|$ for each $i in I$.







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          For each $yin A_i,$ by definition, there is a function $fin Z_i$ such that $y=f(i);$ choose such an $f$ and call it $f_y.$ (Axiom of choice used here.) The inequality $|A_i|le|Z_i|$ follows from the fact that $ymapsto f_y$ is an injective map from $A_i$ to $Z_i.$ Namely, if $y,zin A_i$ and $f_y=f_z,$ then $y=f_y(i)=f_z(i)=z.$






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            So, in a formula: $A_i=yin Y_i:(exists fin Z_i)(y=f(i))$, or a bit shorter: $A_i=f(i): fin Z_i$. The last formulation shows that $A_i$ is the image of $Z_i$ under the map $fmapsto f(i)$. In general: if $g:Pto Q$ is any map then $|g[P]|le|P|$ (this uses a bit of AC).






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            • But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
              – Jxt921
              Sep 10 at 9:30










            • By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
              – hartkp
              Sep 11 at 11:34










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            For each $yin A_i,$ by definition, there is a function $fin Z_i$ such that $y=f(i);$ choose such an $f$ and call it $f_y.$ (Axiom of choice used here.) The inequality $|A_i|le|Z_i|$ follows from the fact that $ymapsto f_y$ is an injective map from $A_i$ to $Z_i.$ Namely, if $y,zin A_i$ and $f_y=f_z,$ then $y=f_y(i)=f_z(i)=z.$






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              For each $yin A_i,$ by definition, there is a function $fin Z_i$ such that $y=f(i);$ choose such an $f$ and call it $f_y.$ (Axiom of choice used here.) The inequality $|A_i|le|Z_i|$ follows from the fact that $ymapsto f_y$ is an injective map from $A_i$ to $Z_i.$ Namely, if $y,zin A_i$ and $f_y=f_z,$ then $y=f_y(i)=f_z(i)=z.$






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                For each $yin A_i,$ by definition, there is a function $fin Z_i$ such that $y=f(i);$ choose such an $f$ and call it $f_y.$ (Axiom of choice used here.) The inequality $|A_i|le|Z_i|$ follows from the fact that $ymapsto f_y$ is an injective map from $A_i$ to $Z_i.$ Namely, if $y,zin A_i$ and $f_y=f_z,$ then $y=f_y(i)=f_z(i)=z.$






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                For each $yin A_i,$ by definition, there is a function $fin Z_i$ such that $y=f(i);$ choose such an $f$ and call it $f_y.$ (Axiom of choice used here.) The inequality $|A_i|le|Z_i|$ follows from the fact that $ymapsto f_y$ is an injective map from $A_i$ to $Z_i.$ Namely, if $y,zin A_i$ and $f_y=f_z,$ then $y=f_y(i)=f_z(i)=z.$







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                    So, in a formula: $A_i=yin Y_i:(exists fin Z_i)(y=f(i))$, or a bit shorter: $A_i=f(i): fin Z_i$. The last formulation shows that $A_i$ is the image of $Z_i$ under the map $fmapsto f(i)$. In general: if $g:Pto Q$ is any map then $|g[P]|le|P|$ (this uses a bit of AC).






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                    • But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                      – Jxt921
                      Sep 10 at 9:30










                    • By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                      – hartkp
                      Sep 11 at 11:34














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                    So, in a formula: $A_i=yin Y_i:(exists fin Z_i)(y=f(i))$, or a bit shorter: $A_i=f(i): fin Z_i$. The last formulation shows that $A_i$ is the image of $Z_i$ under the map $fmapsto f(i)$. In general: if $g:Pto Q$ is any map then $|g[P]|le|P|$ (this uses a bit of AC).






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                    • But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                      – Jxt921
                      Sep 10 at 9:30










                    • By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                      – hartkp
                      Sep 11 at 11:34












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                    So, in a formula: $A_i=yin Y_i:(exists fin Z_i)(y=f(i))$, or a bit shorter: $A_i=f(i): fin Z_i$. The last formulation shows that $A_i$ is the image of $Z_i$ under the map $fmapsto f(i)$. In general: if $g:Pto Q$ is any map then $|g[P]|le|P|$ (this uses a bit of AC).






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                    So, in a formula: $A_i=yin Y_i:(exists fin Z_i)(y=f(i))$, or a bit shorter: $A_i=f(i): fin Z_i$. The last formulation shows that $A_i$ is the image of $Z_i$ under the map $fmapsto f(i)$. In general: if $g:Pto Q$ is any map then $|g[P]|le|P|$ (this uses a bit of AC).







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                    • But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                      – Jxt921
                      Sep 10 at 9:30










                    • By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                      – hartkp
                      Sep 11 at 11:34
















                    • But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                      – Jxt921
                      Sep 10 at 9:30










                    • By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                      – hartkp
                      Sep 11 at 11:34















                    But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                    – Jxt921
                    Sep 10 at 9:30




                    But how do we know that $A_i$ if the image of $Z_i$ under this map and not simply a set containing the image. That is, how to we know that the map $fmapsto f(i)$ is surjective?
                    – Jxt921
                    Sep 10 at 9:30












                    By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                    – hartkp
                    Sep 11 at 11:34




                    By the very definition of $A_i$ as <b>the</b> set of all elements of the form $f(i)$ for some $fin Z_i$.
                    – hartkp
                    Sep 11 at 11:34

















                     

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