I need a justification for epsilon delta definition of limit

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The limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $0$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$.



So if I want to prove the same using $epsilon$ - $delta$ definition for a given $epsilon=0.01$, I will certainly go as follows:
$|x^2+y^2| < 0.01$
$sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$
so I got a value of $delta=0.1$ corresponding to $epsilon=0.01$.



Now my question is if lets say the limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $1$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$
then, $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01$
$sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$.



Here also exists a $delta$ corresponding to $epsilon$.




Does that mean $1$ is the limiting value of $f(x,y)$?











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    The limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $0$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$.



    So if I want to prove the same using $epsilon$ - $delta$ definition for a given $epsilon=0.01$, I will certainly go as follows:
    $|x^2+y^2| < 0.01$
    $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$
    so I got a value of $delta=0.1$ corresponding to $epsilon=0.01$.



    Now my question is if lets say the limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $1$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$
    then, $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01$
    $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$.



    Here also exists a $delta$ corresponding to $epsilon$.




    Does that mean $1$ is the limiting value of $f(x,y)$?











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      The limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $0$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$.



      So if I want to prove the same using $epsilon$ - $delta$ definition for a given $epsilon=0.01$, I will certainly go as follows:
      $|x^2+y^2| < 0.01$
      $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$
      so I got a value of $delta=0.1$ corresponding to $epsilon=0.01$.



      Now my question is if lets say the limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $1$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$
      then, $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01$
      $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$.



      Here also exists a $delta$ corresponding to $epsilon$.




      Does that mean $1$ is the limiting value of $f(x,y)$?











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      The limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $0$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$.



      So if I want to prove the same using $epsilon$ - $delta$ definition for a given $epsilon=0.01$, I will certainly go as follows:
      $|x^2+y^2| < 0.01$
      $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$
      so I got a value of $delta=0.1$ corresponding to $epsilon=0.01$.



      Now my question is if lets say the limiting value of $f(x,y)=x^2+y^2$ is $1$ as $(x,y)$ tends to $(0,0)$
      then, $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01$
      $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$.



      Here also exists a $delta$ corresponding to $epsilon$.




      Does that mean $1$ is the limiting value of $f(x,y)$?








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          If $|x^2+y^2-1|<0.01$, you cannot conclude that $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$. For example, taking $x=1, y=0$, you can see that $$|x^2+y^2-1| =0<0.01$$ clearly holds, however, $$sqrtx^2+y^2 = 1 < sqrt0.01$$ does not hold.






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            No. Observe that your inequality $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01 sqrtx^2+y^2$ is false !






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              As you know limits are unique, so once you proved that the limit is $0$, then you can not prove that the limit is also $1$



              In your case you have proved that $x^2+y^2 to 0$ as $(x,y)to (0,0)$, thus you can not prove the same limit is $1$ or anything other than $0$






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                If $|x^2+y^2-1|<0.01$, you cannot conclude that $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$. For example, taking $x=1, y=0$, you can see that $$|x^2+y^2-1| =0<0.01$$ clearly holds, however, $$sqrtx^2+y^2 = 1 < sqrt0.01$$ does not hold.






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                  If $|x^2+y^2-1|<0.01$, you cannot conclude that $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$. For example, taking $x=1, y=0$, you can see that $$|x^2+y^2-1| =0<0.01$$ clearly holds, however, $$sqrtx^2+y^2 = 1 < sqrt0.01$$ does not hold.






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                    If $|x^2+y^2-1|<0.01$, you cannot conclude that $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$. For example, taking $x=1, y=0$, you can see that $$|x^2+y^2-1| =0<0.01$$ clearly holds, however, $$sqrtx^2+y^2 = 1 < sqrt0.01$$ does not hold.






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                    If $|x^2+y^2-1|<0.01$, you cannot conclude that $sqrtx^2+y^2 < sqrt0.01$. For example, taking $x=1, y=0$, you can see that $$|x^2+y^2-1| =0<0.01$$ clearly holds, however, $$sqrtx^2+y^2 = 1 < sqrt0.01$$ does not hold.







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                        No. Observe that your inequality $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01 sqrtx^2+y^2$ is false !






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                          No. Observe that your inequality $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01 sqrtx^2+y^2$ is false !






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                            No. Observe that your inequality $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01 sqrtx^2+y^2$ is false !






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                            No. Observe that your inequality $|x^2+y^2-1| < 0.01 sqrtx^2+y^2$ is false !







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                                As you know limits are unique, so once you proved that the limit is $0$, then you can not prove that the limit is also $1$



                                In your case you have proved that $x^2+y^2 to 0$ as $(x,y)to (0,0)$, thus you can not prove the same limit is $1$ or anything other than $0$






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                                  As you know limits are unique, so once you proved that the limit is $0$, then you can not prove that the limit is also $1$



                                  In your case you have proved that $x^2+y^2 to 0$ as $(x,y)to (0,0)$, thus you can not prove the same limit is $1$ or anything other than $0$






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                                    As you know limits are unique, so once you proved that the limit is $0$, then you can not prove that the limit is also $1$



                                    In your case you have proved that $x^2+y^2 to 0$ as $(x,y)to (0,0)$, thus you can not prove the same limit is $1$ or anything other than $0$






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                                    As you know limits are unique, so once you proved that the limit is $0$, then you can not prove that the limit is also $1$



                                    In your case you have proved that $x^2+y^2 to 0$ as $(x,y)to (0,0)$, thus you can not prove the same limit is $1$ or anything other than $0$







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